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Here’s The Official Reason Why Some Traffic Lights Are Horizontal And Some Are Vertical

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Finally. FINALLY I have the answer. For years I’ve been calling municipalities, bothering utility workers servicing stop lamps, and  — more recently — yelling at people on crosswalks. “Why are these traffic lights vertical while the ones in Texas are horizontal?!” I implore in a deranged tone pointing up at the lights with a trembling index finger, my eyes unfocused and bloodshot. “I need to know this! Please!” And for years, all I’ve received from these sources is hung-up phone calls and strange stares. But that ends today.

I’d reached out to various safety organizations over the years, I’d called DOTs from multiple states, and for the most part, people only had guesses as to why some traffic signals look like this:

While others look like this:

Traffic lights hanging vertically from a pole

But recently, with the launch of The Autopian, a number of brilliant engineers have reached out to me offering to act as sources for stories. One civil engineer named Joe Eberle introduced himself in his email as a Transportation Engineer. Upon reading his note, my heart pounded; I felt like maybe, just maybe, I could get the definitive answer to the question that has haunted me for far too long. I decided to shoot my shot:

Joe’s initial response was short:

Yeah definitely! The short boring answer is it’s mostly whatever the state agency’s preference is. But I know you guys like the details so I’ll get some references and highlight some special use cases and send them this weekend. (Replacing the front suspension on my buddy’s truck tonight/tomorrow morning, so might not be until Sunday or Monday)

But then, presumably after some new struts and control arms had been installed into a truck, came the Big Kahuna; I was not prepared for the nerdiness that Mr. Eberle would impart upon me. Buckle up, folks. It’s about to get real.

Answers From A Transportation Enginerd

“To start, the best resource for anything traffic signal or sign related is the MUTCD (Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices),” he began. “This document is the foundation for many state codes regarding traffic control, and if a state wants to deviate from it, the state will need to get approval from the FHWA (Federal Highway Administration). It states all of the requirements for traffic signal mounting height, what can be displayed on traffic signals, how many signals per intersection approach, etc.”
“Section 4 deals with traffic signals specifically and states that traffic signals can be mounted vertically or horizontally and what order the red, yellow and green need to be in for both cases. It does not have any explanation as to why you might mount a signal vertically or horizontally though.”
He continued: “The next source would be to reference any state DOT’s standard plans for construction. These typically show how an ideal traffic signal should be built in that state, and is the basis for design for any new traffic signal.”

Wind, Some Notes About New ‘Backplates’ On Traffic Signals, Tethers

Here’s the good part; Eberle mentions wind as a main impetus for going to horizontal signals over vertical ones:
Now to the vertical vs. Horizontal signals. The standard arrangement for a traffic signal is to hang them vertically with red on top, green on bottom, but I think there are a few reasons for why a traffic signal would be mounted horizontally. First, mounting a signal horizontally allows two points of attachment to a span wire rather than only one at the top, which should secure the signal better and prevent them from swinging parallel to the road during high wind events. A recent safety improvement on new signals that you may have noticed is installing backplates with a reflective border that helps the signals stand out against the horizon during the day, and light them up with the reflective border at night.
While these safety benefits are great, they also largely increase the surface area of a signal with no significant weight gain, essentially acting as a sail and tossing the signals around with much lighter wind than before. This would be a good reason to mount them horizontally with two attachment points, however most DOT’s have started to require tethers on all span wire mounted signals to combat this. These tethers are basically just another wire running on the bottom of the signals to provide a second attachment point and anchor them in place. You may have also noticed many mast arms (heavy steel poles) at intersections with the signals mounted directly to them. These hard mounts would also eliminate any swaying caused by high winds, yet you still see horizontal signals mounted on them.

Vertical Clearance

Eberle continues to the next benefit of horizontal signals — increased vertical clearance:
Another reason signals could be mounted horizontally is to give better vertical clearance for the road below. Signals need to be an absolute minimum of 14′ above a roadway, ideally 17′-19′. But if for some reason the signals dipped too low, mounting them horizontally could potentially give an extra 2′-3′ of clearance. This seems like a pretty good reason, but typically if you have a long span that is sagging the signals too low, you just mount the span wire higher up on a pole or increase tension before you flip the signals around. If you were mounting traffic signals in a tunnel I suppose this would be a valid reason.

Aesthetics Matter

So vertical clearance and wind are important, but don’t think cities always put function first; the way traffic signals look also matters, with Eberle giving an example of counties in Michigan who willingly gave up a visibility advantage to ensure that their traffic signals are black:
Lastly (and i think this is the real reason), people have preferences of how things look, even when it comes down to traffic signals. While horizontally mounted traffic signals may have originally been installed to combat swinging in the wind or for additional vertical clearance, modern signals have many other design elements to counter act these problems. Perhaps a city started mounting signals horizontally 50 years ago for a legitimate reason (like hurricane force winds), and then citizens became used to seeing all signals that way and wouldn’t want to see a vertical signal, so the city keeps tradition and all signals stay horizontal.
A great example of this that i’m currently involved in is painting signals black instead of yellow. Typically signals have always been yellow for the same reasons that school buses are yellow, to make them stand out. But several years ago a few county’s in Michigan started to install black traffic signals at all of their intersections. Now when we design new signals in the county there is almost always a fight between the local municipality and the county over whether the signals should be yellow or black for no reason other than it’s how someone prefers them to look.
So these are some reasons behind going to a horizontal figure, per the transportation engineer who included the images you see above from the Michigan and Florida Departments of Transportation. As for sticking with vertical ones? “I would assume its because it’s the easiest way to hang a signal, one fastener (or astro-bracket) per signal rather than two,” he says.

I Reach Out To The Feds

Just as I sent my email to Eberle, I did a bit more digging to try once again to get to the bottom of the Horizontal versus Vertical traffic signal issue. I found myself reading a research paper about traffic lights, and saw at the top that it had been penned as part of a program called “Intersection Safety.” It turns out, the Federal Highway Administration (which falls under the Department of Transportation umbrella) has what’s called an “Office of Safety.” It’s an organization whose goal is — well, I’ll just let the Office of Safety break it down:

“Together with…other US Department of Transportation (USDOT) agencies, the Office of Safety is committed to the vision of zero deaths and serious injuries on the Nation’s roadways. Within the broad highway safety mission, the Office of Safety’s mission is to exercise leadership throughout the multidisciplinary highway community to make the Nation’s roadways safer for all users.”

That sounds fluffy, I realize that. But stay with me, here. This Office of Safety has a Washington, DC-based staff broken up into two main program “area units.” The organization breaks those units down:

  • “Office of Safety Technologies is responsible for highway designs and technologies that improve safety performance.”
  • “The Office of Safety Programs is responsible for comprehensive Federal and State highway safety programs and activities that improve safety for all road users.”

Okay, things are still a little fluffy, but here’s the main point. That first bullet point about “highway designs and technologies that improve safety performance” has under its management a program called “Intersection Safety”:

That’s right, it’s an entire program and team whose job is to improve safety where roads cross one another. And you know what one tends to find at such locations? Stoplights!

Shortly after learning of this “intersection safety” group, I found the group’s webpage, which discusses why the team exists in the first place: Road intersections are among the most dangerous spaces in motoring, it turns out:

…where roads intersect and paths cross, the resulting conflict points create circumstances where crashes can occur. In fact, each year roughly one–quarter of traffic fatalities and about one–half of all traffic injuries in the United States are attributed to intersections. That is why intersections are a national, state and local road safety priority, and a program focus area for FHWA.

Anyway, the webpage includes contact information for members of the Intersection Safety program. I sent an email, and heard back. What did I learn? Well, for one, I learned that Eberle is a genius, because he was right-on about MUTCD (which you can read here) being the relevant standard. From the feds at the DOT:

On background, I can clarify that basically – MUTCD Section 4D.08 through 4D.10 address this topic.  Basically, the signal sections in a signal face shall be arranged in a vertical or horizontal straight line,…Essentially, the  MUTCD allows both vertical and horizontal signal displays and does not indicate a preference for one over the other.   It is up to each transportation agency to choose, but most agencies use vertical displays.  With both options, it is important to note the colors are displayed in a standardized manner so motorists who are color-blind can distinguish the red from the green based on its position within the display.

I then asked what considerations would lead a transportation agency to go one way or the other. The DOT rep echoed Eberle’s notes about vertical clearance, wind, and aesthetics, but also added visibility as another factor:

On background – there may be design considerations that are at the agency’s discretion. For example—

  • Vertical clearance concerns
  • Wind load issues
  • Better sight distance at locations with vertical obstructions
  • Aesthetic preference/uniformity

Generally, horizontal displays are used at specific locations where it is challenging to achieve the required vertical clearance above the roadway.  In coastal areas or other locations with high wind speeds, horizontal displays can provide more stability and minimize the swaying of the signal displays.  In some cases, horizontal signals provide a better line of sight for motorists such as when exiting a tunnel or a bridge.  Some agencies may just prefer the visual appearance of one over the other and the consistency of having all of the signals in a jurisdiction with the same design.

Finally! We Have A Definitive Answer

I realize that I could have Googled this and perhaps obtained similar answers, but the fact is that whom the information comes from is as important as the information itself; I was never satisfied with what I found in my Google search results, but now I have the definitive answers. Directly from experts. I can sleep now knowing that Texas’s horizontal traffic signals are a choice, not a requirement, and that wind, visibility, aesthetics/historical precedence, and vertical clearance are the main factors that may have played a role in their presence over the ubiquitous vertical signals found in most other states.

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65 Responses

  1. While in driver ed in a SW Chicago suburb 39 years ago, I ran a red light because someone thought it was a good idea to mount a horizontal light (red), then a vertical light (green) a short block later. Luckily, there were no other cars at the intersection and my driver ed teacher saw the stupidity of the whole thing. I think the horizontal look better, but keep it consistent in a municipality at least.

  2. “I was not prepared for the nerdiness that Mr. Eberle would impart upon me.” I’m flabbergasted that DT was out-nerded! I thought he was the Lord of the Nerds! Props to Mr. Eberle!

    Also, I’m flabbergasted that I spelled flabbergasted correctly.

  3. “Eberle giving an example of counties in Michigan who willingly gave up a visibility advantage to ensure that their traffic signals are black”
    I would actually argue that Yellow signals give up visibility. With the sun shining on reflector bulbs, figuring out which is illuminated is easier on a black background – and especially when there’s the extra surround shield (also those help when sun is behind the light and blinding you, but only if they don’t have gaps between main body and outer shield). Some sort of do that, but only on the surround – the critical black section is the snow/debris/shade shield and immediate surrounding body. Matte black allows seeing the illuminated bulb better than shiny yellow. At night it doesn’t matter (but also why reflective stripes can be good).

    Can we get something on Green-Yellow-Red transitions as well as michigan’s various blinking yellow vs blinking red and how ambiguous intersections are at night when you come to blinking red (as to whether perpendicular direction is blinking red or blinking yellow)? Maybe even on the PWM duty cycle suited for lights, incandescent vs LED. Might also apply to turn signals and LEd vs incandescent for when you quickly glance at a car and whether bulb is fully off (LED) or mostly dim (incandescent).

    1. In the UK all our traffic lights use the amber (there probably a reason we use orange/amber instead of yellow) light.
      If you’re stopped at a red light, it’ll go to red+amber just before it changes so you can change into gear, then it’ll go green when you’re ok to move (cross the line before the green is on and you may get flashed by a red light camera).
      When it’s changing the other way, the green will be replaced by just amber, which means that if you can stop safely before the line you must stop, although most people just speed up to get through before it goes red.
      The timing is standardised too, so if you see a green light turn to amber, you know how much time you have to stop in, whether you’re in the centre of London or a tiny town in Wales etc.

      1. One of my biggest pet peeves is the variability of yellow light length in the US. Many other countries just do this better. Also, I’ve seen traffic officers sitting near a traffic light, and they seem to be doing something to change when the transition occurs, and the length of each phase. Is this a real thing? Or am I just misperceiving it due to my general paranoia about traffic cops?

        1. I’ve never seen anything that would make me think they can actually change it on the fly, but in my area a couple of municipalities were caught reducing the yellow time at intersections where they installed red light cameras, so I wouldn’t put it past them.

        2. I work near a major baseball stadium, and traffic cops will regularly control the lights manually to ease traffic flow before and after games. There’s a big stainless box at the side of the road that they’ll open up and access a control panel.

        3. It’s been years, but a St. Louis suburb call Bel Ridge got busted manually changing lights to red and writing tickets for it. Got busted by a MoDot employee who drove by every day to work. It had a manual switch for a school or something, and the cops had a key for it, and would just switch lights to red from green.
          There also used to be a problem here of yellows being programmed too short, and people getting tickets, and into accidents because of it. At least where I live, that hasn’t been a problem for a while, the yellows are all pretty long now.

      2. I love the idea of having the light go to red+amber to give drivers the opportunity to put the car in gear before setting off. I wish it was like that here in Canada. Instead I have to pay close attention to the opposing lights, and when they turn yellow, I put the car into gear.

        1. You don’t understand the ingenuity and ability of American drivers to totally ignore any kind of signage/lights/emergency vehicles/anything. Too many American drivers think they are the only thing on the road and feel no obligation to pay attention to what’s going on around them.
          The amount of people I see looking at their phones instead of their surroundings is frankly terrifying.

  4. Here in Westchester NY on a local road near me, there’s an underpass under Route 87, with an intersection just on the other side. The lights are mounted horizontally there, otherwise you wouldn’t be able to see them until you were right underneath with no time to stop.

    1. I am in Pennsylvania, and other than for clearance issues (underpasses, tunnels, ect) I don’t think I have ever seen a horizontal signal. I do know that for the most part for new signals they won’t approve wire slung signals, all new installations and redesigns have to be on poles or mast arms, which eliminates the wind issues mostly.

  5. The intersection video from the Office of Safety was quite interesting. I knew the more “unusual” looking intersections were technically more safe, but seeing the number of possible incident points and having them all in one video right after one another was helpful.

  6. Yup. Obscure shit like this is great. Lol. I’m glad you had fun doing all this research….. I think a deeper dive into the history of traffic lights when Automobiles were starting to today, then going further and analyzing fifth element/bladerunner/cyberpunk the game and see what artists think the future of traffic lights could look like.

  7. I mean, I figured since it was something to do with lights, it would be a frothed up Jason writing, but no, it appears to be David moonlighting as Jason! They are starting to merge into the same person! Next we will see Jason buying 7 Jeeps to fit in his yard.

      1. And it hasn’t self destructed? *hides under desk*

        Plus now I have the image of a David/Torch Hybrid in my brain. I am sure some photoshop expert will make this happen. There will be a great disturbance in the Force, like millions of voices cried out and suddenly went silent.

  8. Huh. I worked at a traffic sign company for nine years, and I never thought to read that part of the MUTCD. I always assumed that vertical was the new standard and that older horizontal lights were grandfathered-in, or something.

    I do know that my grandfather, who was red-green color-blind, HATED the horizontal lights around Wichita when they were first installed, until he figured out that red was always on the left.

    Coincidentally, my years designing traffic signs coincided with the great Highway Gothic versus Clearview font argument; Clearview was given approval as an option in 2004, and then taken away again in 2016, so you have a mishmash of fonts in places that opted to use Clearview during those twelve years. Your tax dollars at work…

    1. Somewhere in the deep recesses of my memory I heard the color blindness rationale for vertical lights. But then it would be a problem for people who are color blind and can’t tell left from right. Don’t laugh. My sister has that problem. (I can laugh at her though. She’s my sister).

  9. OK….didn’t read ALL the comments so maybe someone mentioned it, but….
    This is CLEARLY a Torch article. Does David know Torch is using his byline?
    The only other possibility is that they have been spending THAT much time together.
    Maybe next will be a story about Jason fixing the rust on his Chang li with a Harbor Freight stick welder.

  10. Fun fact about the order of the lights: It’s really fucking important! I’m corblind, so knowing red is on top/left and green is bottom/right is a literal lifesaver. I have been in neighborhoods where green is on top and it is seriously a problem.

    I *can* tell the red from green naturally, but it can take a second. My real problem is I can’t tell a flashing red from a flashing orange at night, and that the greenlights look white. This means at night I can get them confused with street lights at a distance.

    1. Another colorblind guy here, everything you said applies to me too, especially the green looking white. The new reflective borders help a lot with the green light/streetlight confusion. Red and yellow look pretty much the same to me too. Driving at night is so much fun!

      “Stop at the top, go below”

  11. I have another question about traffic lights.
    Why are the traffic lights in the USA placed at the other side of the crossroads while almost everywhere in Europe they are before the intersection , you have to stop right at the traffic light.

  12. So in Thailand… horizontal, there might be two red lights or two green lights or maybe a green arrow and two red XXs. It doesn’t matter as no one really pays attention to any of it, and strangely enough, there are few accidents. It’s primarily a Buddhist country, and you don’t see any yelling or flipping off people, and they know how to merge.

    By the way, this is the best Auto website hands down. Thank you for your hard work in getting the site going!

    1. I disagree about Thailand, people do pay attention to red lights. Yes it’s not as strict as in some Western countries, and depending where you are, there will be people still crossing after the light has changed to red, but in general, I wouldn’t say ‘nobody cares’, it’s not like that at all.
      What I like in S-E Asia are the countdown timers, that show in how many seconds the light will change. Most intersections have them , save for a few smaller ones, I wish we had them where I live…

  13. If you like this you’ll love GLOSA: Green Light Optimized Speed Advisory. Its a system in which each traffic light has a display – similar to those nagging “your speed is…SLOW DOWN” signs but one that displays the speed you need to go to catch the next light as it goes green:


    Its been around since at least 1980 when I saw it in action around Stockholm. We used it to cruse through green light after green light rather than get caught on the reds. I thought it brilliant but on my next visit years later it was gone. Still I’d love to see it adopted here in the US, especially in urban areas.

    Or more roundabouts. I like those too.

  14. So when do we get the article on why some left turn signals go green before thru traffic and some after? Macomb is generally after (which makes sense when you edge forward on flashing red to make the turn) vs Oakland which is generally before (which leaves you trapped in the middle if it’s a flashing red)

    1. Designers have many tricks in their tool box to make intersections more efficient. Left turns before or after through traffic is one. Most signal controllers have several set timing cycles that it uses through the day.

  15. Wattles Rd. – Requires pointless juvenile teehee…

    Does anybody else here remember when traffic lights used to not only cycle from green to yellow to red, but also red to yellow to green? I recall that back in the seventies, but not when it changed. I guess it was a prompt to put your cigarette down and start revving your engine or something.

  16. I’d always wondered about this, too. Thanks for digging into it, David!

    The only remaining traffic light question I have is why no “red yellows” and “green yellows” anymore? The older traffic lights in Chicago used to have this handy feature that signaled when the light was about to change, and they still have it in Europe.

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