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My Best Guess At What That $21,500 REO Pickup Truck Will Look Like

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Would you ever buy a car or truck or even put down a deposit without even knowing what it looks like? I know I wouldn’t, yet that appears to be what the new venture called REO hopes you’ll do for the bare-bones pickup that its backer hopes to be launching in the near future.

REO has been very verbal in explaining what this thing will be, but they’ve done little in terms of actually illustrating it. That’s almost certainly because they still don’t know themselves. I’m not a car designer or even claim to be, but I can’t help but read such descriptions and form images in my head. As a person who draws stuff, I had to scribble something down to get it out of my pea-sized brain. Is what’s appearing in my dome similar to what you have in mind?

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Take It On The Run

Why would anyone start their own car company? If you hear what Malcolm Bricklin said when asked what convinced him to build an automobile with his name on it, his answer was, “because I didn’t know any better.” That’s probably the case with most of these startups. It’s extremely unfair that many of these entrepreneurs are labeled as shysters; if your goal is to rip off the public, there are much, much easier ways to do it than trying to produce an automobile.

Sure, there are the Liz Carmichaels of Dale fame out there, but the vast majority of these people have a vision in mind for a new kind of product that they’re convinced the public wants and needs. In Bricklin’s case, it was to make a very safe car (a sports car no less) that wasn’t ugly or unattainable and met the new regulations and realities of the early seventies head-on without whining about it like the Big 3. If you have twenty minutes for the video below, I recommend it: Malcolm has some stories.

The end result does look pretty nice and was flat-out shocking for 1974, but as with virtually all independently-created vehicles, Bricklin had to solve huge issues with money and labor to his car produced. That, combined with initial price projections that excite the public but end up doubling by the time required to get the thing launched, ended up killing Bricklin’s car and essentially all the other moonshot startups since.

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source: Mecum

Is the REO going to be any different? We certainly hope so, since it’s based on a concept that hits most Autopians as being right for the times.

Keep The Fire Burning

Our own Jason Torchinsky has recently interviewed Zach De Bernardi, the person behind the launch of this new vehicle named after a defunct car and truck company. The original REO was started by Ransom Eli Olds; a company that most know or remember only because of a country music band (Diamond Rio) or cassette-era arena rockers that took on the name when their History of Transportation instructor at University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign wrote REO SPEEDWAGON on the blackboard in 1967.

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source: REO

There are plenty of people convinced that De Bernardi is hawking vaporware, but he certainly seems sincere in his desire to launch the type of vehicle the internet is clamoring for: an inexpensive and humble gasoline-powered truck. The claim is that it will be an old-school, body-on-frame design with a live rear axle, mechanical 4WD, and a proven (but yet to be revealed) major manufacturer four-cylinder motor and manual transmission as standard equipment.

The REO is conceived to be like the new Slate but without the limited-range electric drive of that truck and possibly even more stripped down in base form to get to a lower price.

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Source: Slate

Whether the excitement in online chats can translate to actual sales is unknown, but the REO is yet another supposed answer to the-price-is-too-damn-high stickers of most new cars. This is all happening with essentially no images of the proposed product beyond the slightest hints at a boxy truck shape. According to the website, that’s because REO wants to be “different.” REO has given us some highly stylized and possibly AI-generated images that get the “idea” across, but that’s it. The front shows a lighting signature but little else of consequence:

Reo Site 1
source: REO

The standard two-seater looks very similar to the Slate. This rendering seems a bit at odds with the lengthy written material on the REO, since it’s supposed to be a drop-side pickup, but those taillights say that ain’t so.

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There’s a four-door pickup as well, and the art gives this thing rather odd proportions, like it’s gonna be a rare six-door cab.

Reo Site 3
source: REO

Finally, there will supposedly be a four-door SUV that, in this image, looks similar if not identical to the Bronco:

Reo Site 2
source: REO

Exactly what the REO will look like appears to be undecided as of yet. According to De Bernardi, he’s hiring people to help with that.

And the design is being done by some fantastic pedigree. I can’t tell you who or where, but I’m on a plane to Europe tomorrow. If that gives you any idea, it’s not just Joe Schmo working on it, it’s not AI doing it, it’s not just some graphic designer that we hired. If you saw any marketplace post for that on like Behance or Art Station, that was kind of early stuff, just to kind of help us get some ideation going. But the real designers of these vehicles are household names.

I’m not sure that’s the best answer for a fledgling firm. Zach is going to spend likely hundreds of thousands of dollars (probably more) he can ill afford educating a bunch of Italian guys on what an American pickup truck is. He will possibly get back solutions that the likes of Jason and I think are cool but are tone-deaf to what an American buyer wants (like the Ital-designed sales flops Eagle Premier and Subaru SVX) just to name-drop some company that a cheap truck buyer won’t give a crap about. There are plenty of North American people to do the job very well for less money.

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source: Mecum

Bricklin had it right in that regard, hiring Art Center graduate and experienced American ex-Ford designer Herb Grasse to do his design work, and Herb sure as hell had the look of the car established first since he knew there was no other way for Malcolm to raise cash.

If you read Herb Grasse’s account of developing the Bricklin design in weeks and even grabbing taillights off of his own personal Pantera and putting them on the clay model literally hours before investors showed up, you’ll realize the kind of in-house scrappiness you need at this stage. I promise you, dudes thousands of miles and seven time zones away can’t do that. Based on other “startups of the week” that have crashed and burned in the last few years, Malcolm is right that unnecessarily spending big bucks up front on staff and other resources means certain death. By not showing a visual representation up front, you’re probably hurting your credibility with the public in the same way Infiniti did with commercials that didn’t show the car. Worse than that, in the absence of official images, we know that “Joe Schmos” will fill that gap with their own bad AI interpretations (that some viewers will think are real).

I don’t want to “design” this thing as much as just catalog what it could possibly be beyond those vague profile views on the REO site. Enough talk; I refuse to use Midjourney or other AI crap (I actually don’t know how), but this Joe Schmo here has a Pilot Razorpoint and Photoshop. Let’s go!

I Can’t Fight This Feeling

Based on the descriptions and minimalistic profiles, we know that the REO will be simple, square-rigged, and clean with minimal trim. I’ll start with a four-door version since that will almost certainly be the most popular version regardless of what internet fans go nuts for. The two-door REO is supposedly going to be around 180 inches long, which means the four-door version will be similar in size to the Maverick.

As I said earlier, I don’t use AI, and there are many ways to draw and render cars, but the way I do it is absolutely, positively not the way anyone should. Ever. I’ll start with a Maverick image:

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source: Ford

I’ll then add the detailing that will make up the basic truck. REO doesn’t mention the drop side on the four-door truck, but that’s what I’ll show anyway. Basically, it’s three boxes with two simple character lines running down the side. You can see that the lower character line defines the split for the fold-down part of the tailgate sides.

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source: Ford

Then it’s hours of adding color from the base image to the line drawing. It’s tedious and stupid, but almost like doing a coloring book and quite relaxing after nine hours in the office getting angry at staff and customers.

Maverick Colored 7 5

Eventually, it’s all done, and I can tweak the crap out of it. I know that AI can do the same thing if I spend three days typing paragraphs of prompts into it, but I’ll still get something I don’t want, and that sounds like a bad time.

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Base image: Ford

Anyway, that basic shape above: you can’t get simpler than that. The down-the-road lighting signature I’ve tried to capture with an “H” shaped light bar that REO appears to be showing on their website front view. It splits a grille for the radiator and a trim panel above. Note that the side marker lights are actually part of the front-facing light structure that shine through “windows” in the fenders to reduce parts. Door handles are levers hidden in vertical depressions that run behind the trailing edge of the doors.

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Base image: Ford

This example is a rather well-equipped model with gloss-painted and chrome-trimmed steel wheels, but we could also offer a true bare-bones version with unpainted grey bumpers and upper grille trim panel. In typical car parlance, this would be the “custom” model:

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Base image: Ford

I’d push it even further by removing all of the sheet metal below the flatbed in back for the “Standard” model. I’d also make the standard models rear-wheel drive to save money, with 4WD available as an option.

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Base image: Ford

The two-door would, of course, be the starting point of the whole lineup. Honestly, I don’t think getting to $21,500 is possible, but to do so you will literally have to strip out large chunks of the vehicle itself. That means an exposed rear frame and no bodywork whatsoever below the bed. Note the “box” taillights in back that Jason is so fond of. If you’ve ever driven a Home Depot rental pickup and said, “this is all I need and want,” then here you go.

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Base image: Ford

REO is also promising an SUV version of this platform, the signature feature being side-facing jump seats in back. I wasn’t aware that you could legally put these in an American truck and pass safety laws, and those things sound cool but are not a particularly comfortable way to travel. Regardless, Zack has advertised it so we’ll add it, but in order for those kinds of seats to work we’ll want some extra roof in back so an available “dome top” like a 21-window bus or an old Land Rover would need to be stamped out. I’m not complaining about having to put a raised roof on, since I’ll put a Vista Cruiser top on anything I get my hands on.

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Base image: Ford

The rear “bumper” would accommodate any trailer hitch you want to add with an offset license plate and single backup light. Like the front, the side markers are part of the rear-facing taillight unit with windows to shine out the side. Also, a “window” in the left taillight cluster would illuminate the license plate for free. From the back, the REO I rendered ended up looking extremely boxy and industrial, almost like some thirty-year-old truck that got imported from an emerging nation or an upsized Kei truck. Maybe that’s the look we want? It’s begging for some strips and graphics.

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Base image: Ford

The available rubber side trim on the tops of the fenders would protect them when they’re folded down (standard would just be rubber bumpers below). You’ll also note that the low-mounted taillights would continue down far enough that they’d be visible with the rear tailgate folded down (and the license plate as well).

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Having a rather tall bed floor means that you’d have room below for an available rear cargo trunk as on a Honda Ridgeline. I do wonder if maybe it should be accessible by a rear door so you don’t have to unload the cargo bed to get to it. Smaller side cargo pockets ahead of the rear wheels might be optional too.

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I haven’t added any “styling” so to speak in these renderings, but maybe a product essentially devoid of any trendy lumps and bumps is a good thing? In some ways it resembles the 1986 Nissan “Hardbody” pickup, arguably the best-looking compact pickup ever designed.

Riding The Storm Out (Inside The Cab)

Inside, De Bernardi mentioned that the standard interior could be truly basic, as in “if it doesn’t really need it, we won’t add it.” The base model would have identical vinyl bench seats up front and back in the four-door that don’t recline and the ability to hold three across in a very tight pinch (note the raising head restraints). The “door panels” are really just small, partial covers for the hole in the steel with armrest, airbag, and window crank; most of the sheet metal is exposed.

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If you aren’t a total cheapskate, you’ll want to get bucket seats and a console, plus actual full door panels with door pockets that could include speakers and buttons for power windows if you’re Mr. Moneybags.

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Like the Slate, I see the dash being very simple. It’s C-shaped in profile to allow for a full-width tray, painfully basic with a speedometer/gas gauge combination not unlike 1970s Beetles:

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From there, of course, you could do it up any way your tastes or wallet allows. There’s an optional non-skid rubber mat to put your cell phones and such on (a wireless charger underneath is also optional). Pull-out cup holders can be installed on each end of the dash (yes, you guessed it, they’re optional). Two removable plugs on the outer edges of the dash top could be removed to install speakers (which, again, could be complemented by speakers in the optional door panels if you order those).

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A double DIN frame panel lets you install an entertainment control screen. An optional tach, water temp, alternator and oil pressure gauges snap into apertures needs to the speedometer (De Bernardi wants analog gauges, but I think LCD screens might be cheaper in the end). Air conditioning would be standard, but the “ball cooler” vents? Optional for you to install. Every dollar counts.

Buying an REO but can’t afford some of this stuff now? No problem; you could buy it later to install yourself. You’d probably pay less than from the factory, and you wouldn’t be financing it and end up paying like $100 for a cup holder over four years.

Time For Me To Fly

So which version of this proposed REO would you get, and what options would you pop for? Whether you like what I’ve illustrated or not, it doesn’t matter; as a client once told me. “I need to see what I hate so that I can tell you what I like.” If De Bernardi is really serious about letting potential customers’ feedback be part of the design process, I think that REO should show us something sooner rather than later.

Then again, the fact that no images exist has made me inexplicably obsessed over this new truck. Maybe De Bernardi’s move is marketing genius after all?

Top graphic bade image: Ford

 

 

 

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Bizness Comma Nunya
Bizness Comma Nunya
18 days ago

Zero percent, and I mean absolutely zero percent chance that this REO bullshit works out. Making hardware at scale is much harder than these people think.

Large OEMs can always move much quicker if they need to fill these gaps in the market. Sounds like more snakeoil.

Lincoln Thurber
Lincoln Thurber
1 month ago

I think the artist did it correctly, they show their works and indeed that is what it seems to looks like. However, it looks bad. If it looks like that it might as well not even try to compete in the market at all.

North AMerican vehicles are TOO expensive, and all the brands that keep pumping out vehicles, that are just normal mid-level vehicles, that are about $40K, are going to lose. The whole North American market needs to shift. The best selling vehicle in America now are the ones that have this odd marking USED. There are only so many 3rd world countries where car makers can DUMP unsold vehicles to prop up prices.

Torque
Torque
1 month ago

There is obviously a “small affordable truck” gap in the USD market.
One that no existing mature legacy auto maker is willing to fill. Why would they when they can sell large to cartoonishly large trucks for massive profits instead…

I would be curious what it would cost and what are the minimum units that would need to be sold per year if Toyota brought the Hilux Champ to the US market.

Conceptually that is what this startup is trying to achieve. Toyota sells the Champ in Thailand for a base price of roughly $13k. Add in US minimum safety equipment, say $3k more + 25% chicken tax = $20k

But again Toyota has zero incentive to bring the Champ here, why would they when they can sell Tacomas for $45k+.

Typically the opportunity for a startup to succeed in bringing a new product to market is when there is a major technology shift, as we are experiencing with the shift from ICE to EV powered. In which case some large previous advantages of incumbents (entire system of operations built around the ice) become liabilities

Last edited 1 month ago by Torque
SCOTT GREEN
SCOTT GREEN
1 month ago

You don’t think they’ll put a full grill on it..?

CanyonCarver
CanyonCarver
1 month ago

Your 2 door version is really throwing off the old Nissan hardbody vibes. I am down for that.

JayJay
JayJay
1 month ago

I love how all progress has just stopped in this world, so this looks like a 1987 Nissan pick-up, with a strange JDM front on it, we never saw here.

Don’t get me wrong, I love – and use – a lot of stuff from 1987! And I don’t feel so left behind now, not being able to sing a Taylor Swift song or knowing how to operate a Polestar (I have stopped ever mentioning that other brand with that guy again).

JayJay
JayJay
1 month ago
Reply to  The Bishop

I like when things just find their final stage of evolution, like all phones have had the same outer form since 2010.

Saw the “Legends” tv show recently (it was OK), taking place in 1990, and thought “hey isn’t that a new LC 70-series?” in some middle easten scene, and then just thought “oh never mind, they’re almost identical anyway” 😀

Scott Ross
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Scott Ross
1 month ago

Id rather buy The Homer

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago

The actually useful bed is great.

I like the Studabaker Avanti vibe on the nose, but I think lower hoods and better visibility are the next big thing, and an opportunity to claim a look early might be too good to ignore.

Program
Program
1 month ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

we can only hope. honestly, i dont understand why they cant just make boxy/bullish designs but not horrendously large and tall the way they used to. not just something like a first gen ranger or square body chevy, but the xterra and last gen ranger and late model trucks fared pretty well in crash tests while maintaining enough room for modern powertrain and cooling and keeping a fairly boxy macho front end and having a low enough hoodline to see children.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago
Reply to  Program

If a sedan or minivan can pass the test, there’s no reason something with a low-ish sloped hood with the leading edge about 30 inches then slope up to however high the base of the windshield is can’t pass.

It wouldn’t have to look like the new post office truck, although that would be fine with me. Since they supposedly interviewed drivers and asked what the optimum design was, presumably they like it.

Pickups everywhere else in the world don’t look like they were designed by a 5 year old. What’s wrong here?

Program
Program
1 month ago

well bishop… props to u for creating something of human hand and snubbing skynet XD keep practicing!

im just some guy on the internet, but I think de bernardi would be wise to take your advice on hiring american designers. but also, he should drop any mention of the 4 door and suv for the time being. drop the 4×4 for now. and make a choice between an off the shelf dropside bed (possibly from australia, that is probably the closest place they make them small enough, if a us mfgr cant) and an in house fleetside bed. i dont know where he is going to get a port injected 4 pot in this day and age, but he is going to need make this as simple as possible if he wants any chance of success. if u need a dropside bed, u probably dont need 4×4. most ppl dont need 4×4.

Shot Rod Lincoln
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Shot Rod Lincoln
1 month ago

I agree with my fellow Autops that the concept is more exciting than the company at the moment. But the regular cab “Standard” nails the basics that soothe my Luddite soul.

MAX FRESH OFF
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MAX FRESH OFF
1 month ago

The dash renderings do not include a screen for the backup camera that has been required since 2018 in all new vehicles sold in the US under 10,000 pounds by  Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) No. 111.

Program
Program
1 month ago
Reply to  MAX FRESH OFF

cant they just put it in the rearview mirror

Mollusk
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Mollusk
1 month ago
Reply to  Program

Ford did that with the Transit for a couple years. It was tiny, but not entirely useless.

MAX FRESH OFF
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MAX FRESH OFF
1 month ago
Reply to  Mollusk

Oh, that’s right, I remember renting one of those!

Cayde-6
Cayde-6
1 month ago
Reply to  MAX FRESH OFF

Switch to a digital instrument panel and put it there.

TDI in PNW
TDI in PNW
1 month ago

Make or break, I am finding this new era of start-ups, the past couple decades, kind of fascinating.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago

Dude I don’t disagree with you but these rich uneducated idiots are deciding what other people want based on what they want. Millionaire desires vs blue collar? They are wrong. Much like a professional sport team it is ego. Once it starts going wrong they don’t go back to the drawing board they change things from the mistake. Get a designer who asks the user not what they think and it will have a chance but no guarantee unless they ask me

Anonymous Person
Anonymous Person
1 month ago

Hold onto your steering wheel, because my excitement for the new 2-door REO pickup is completely Out of Control! Ever since I caught wind of this absolute Flash Tan Queen of a truck, it has been Ridin’ the Storm Out in my mind every single day. I just Can’t Fight This Feeling anymore; this beautifully designed machine is a total Rock ‘n Roll Star on wheels. It represents a New Way to Love the open road, and honestly, seeing it in person is going to be All Heaven Broke Loose!

I am completely done Runnin’ Blind looking at other trucks, because this pickup is a Dangerous Combination of classic muscle and modern power. The moment I finally get to sit behind the wheel, I will be Smilin’ in the End as I Roll with the Changes on the highway. Looking at its sleek 2-door design makes me realize that other trucks are just Tired of Gettin’ Nowhere while this REO model is ready to Keep Pushin’ the absolute limits. Lucky for You and everyone else on the road, this truck is built to Live Every Moment at maximum velocity!

There is absolutely No Letting Go of my anticipation now. To the creators of this automotive masterpiece, please Keep the Fire Burnin’ in production because I am ready to be Back on the Road Again in style. It is Time for Me to Fly straight to the showroom because nothing can Take It on the Run quite like this magnificent vehicle. Say You Love Me Or Say Goodnight, but you cannot deny that this 2-door REO pickup is the ultimate dream ride!

Hangover Grenade
Hangover Grenade
1 month ago

An ex-girlfriend and I saw REO Speedwagon at a casino in Biloxi, MS. Some old lady gave us the tickets. Was a surprisingly good show!

Moonball96
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Moonball96
1 month ago

GLORIOUS

Mr E
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Mr E
1 month ago

I used to be in the mortgage industry, so REO means ‘real estate owned’ to my brain.

Judging by the supposed snake oil-ness of the REO CEO (ree-oh cee-oh?), I bet their company property might end up back in the bank’s hands one day too, but not before extracting some non-refundable deposits from some folks.

Nick Fortes
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Nick Fortes
1 month ago

So this will be $35k by the time its released to which people will say well $35k is $21.5k in 2026 dollars!!! As if that makes a difference because most people are still getting paid in 2015 dollars.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago
Reply to  Nick Fortes

No if it is 35k it will be no

Anoos
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Anoos
1 month ago

Grifter Vaporware.

May as well bet on the Elio truck.

Joe User
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Joe User
1 month ago

When slate left stealth mode, they had multiple functional prototypes, financial backing and a large team of industry veterans. And they’re still a long shot. This company, as far as I can tell, has a crypto bro and a few AI generated silhouettes. I do not think it warrants the coverage it has received.

Anoos
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Anoos
1 month ago
Reply to  Joe User

Of course this a-hole is a crypto bro.

Luxrage
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Luxrage
1 month ago
Reply to  Joe User

I’m not sure the hype here about it either. Even Telo had a driving prototype on its debut.

Program
Program
1 month ago
Reply to  Joe User

getting financial backing from jeff bezos is an *extremely* rare thing for any startup, let alone an auto mfgr. it makes everything else u said very easy. and its really not a good thing. thats a taint on slates name in my eyes and many others.

i think any new vehicle startup is worthy of coverage, existing companies are fat and lazy and need competition. ice compact trucks are also nonexistent in the us. even if this just gets ppl talking about what were missing, its worth it.

Johnologue
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Johnologue
1 month ago

There were a number of things that convinced me early on that Slate Auto wasn’t vaporware, REO is showing none of them.

Johnologue
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Johnologue
1 month ago
Reply to  Johnologue

Also, this is not judgment against The Bishop, but I can’t escape how much the render/edit here, especially on the thumbnail, looks like an inexpertly-designed* vehicle from the game “Automation”.

Might be mostly because the color reminds me of the default red paint and the headlights look like they’re avoiding annoyances the game has with “fixture” placement.

…if the Autopian YouTube channel wants to do some gaming videos trying out Automation, I think I’d be physically required to watch it.

*inexpertly-designed based on the fact I’m definitely not an expert, I am bad at designing cars in Automation

Eggsalad
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Eggsalad
1 month ago

I’m seeing a lot of the old Nissan “Hardbody” pickup and related Pathfinder models here. And that’s not a bad jumping off point. They were solid trucks with a good reputation.

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
1 month ago

I need some sort of app to help me keep track of all the deposits I have out there with startups offering pickup trucks and I don’t even want a pickup truck. Can’t someone offer a small, light three wheeled EV? /s

Utherjorge, who is quite angry about the baby FJ
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Utherjorge, who is quite angry about the baby FJ
1 month ago

Wait a minute

Dodsworth
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Dodsworth
1 month ago

Your phone is ringing. REO has a job offer. To be fair, all four door pickups have odd proportions.

Kurt B
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Kurt B
1 month ago

Pulling for all vehicle startups because incumbents clearly get lazy and abusive without heel-nipping.

Anoos
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Anoos
1 month ago
Reply to  Kurt B

Startups? Sure.

Grifters can go have an uncomfortable intimate experience with a foot.

Gubbin
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Gubbin
1 month ago

Nice, but can it play the Säkkijärven polkka? (See “Military Uses”)

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