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Honda’s Weird Motorcycle Patent Uses A Fake Clutch, A Fake Flywheel, And ‘Vibration Motors’ To Simulate A Gas Engine

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Electric motorcycles have a different character than their internal combustion siblings. They’re silent, they can deliver all of their torque the instant you twist the right grip, and they’re ridiculously smooth. This is great! But there are some traits of gas engines that might be appealing for electric riders, like being able to control power output like you can with a clutch lever. Honda has patented a weird system that uses a fake clutch, a fake flywheel, and a set of vibration motors to make an electric motorcycle feel like one powered by internal combustion.

There is a trend out there of manufacturers adding little touches to their electric vehicles as a nod to internal combustion. These touches are sometimes silly, fun, and mostly harmless. Hyundai’s N e-Shift and N Active Sound+ combine to simulate the engine sounds, brief power interruptions, and shifting feel of a hot hatch with an eight-speed dual-clutch transmission, even though the vehicles the systems are applied to are totally electric and with only single-seed gear reductions. Fake engine sounds themselves are pretty common across the car world. Then you have the absurd, like the fact that Dodge gave its electric car an external sound system that makes its fake “exhaust” as loud as a Hellcat. Only in a Dodge Charger can you break an exhaust noise ordinance in a car that doesn’t have an exhaust.

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Electric motorcycles have largely avoided these shenanigans. Many riders of electric motorcycles find the relative silence, lack of vibrations, and lack of shifting to be pluses. Indeed, some of the most tranquil rides I’ve ever had were behind the bars of a quiet Zero. But some electric motorcycle makers have been experimenting with bringing a little bit of that internal combustion feel back to electric bikes.

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The Kymco SuperNEX concept is electric, but has a simulated transmission. Kymco

Kymco developed a fake transmission that simulates the feel of a shift. Indian startup Matter made an electric motorcycle with a real four-speed transmission just for the fun of the game. Yamaha developed an electric motocross bike transmission that uses springs to simulate the feel of a clutch dump. Then, Yamaha went even crazier and developed an entire functional engine that’s driven by an electric motor and produces no power, but makes sounds and vibrates.

Now, it’s Honda’s turn to bring a little internal combustion flavor to an electric bike. According to Australian Motorcycle News (AMCN), Honda has developed a fake clutch and a fake flywheel to make electric dirt bikes ride like gas ones.

Honda’s ‘Pseudo Clutch’

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Honda

Sadly, despite looking for this patent for hours, I wasn’t able to dredge it up myself. It doesn’t appear to be easily accessed on a patent site just yet. But what we do know is pretty fascinating.

The motorcycle illustrated in the patent is a Honda CR Electric Proto (below). This is an electric motocross bike prototype that made its debut in the IA1 class at the 2023 All Japan Motocross Championship Round 8 with former AMA champion Trey Canard behind the bars. The CR Electric Proto, which is based on a CRF250R/CRF250RX, marked Honda’s first time putting an in-house developed electric motocross bike into competition. It’s unclear what use depicting the CR Electric Proto has in the patent images, but the real meat is in what the patent shows attached to the bike.

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Honda

The patent images show that, to facilitate the use of a fake clutch system, Honda placed a clutch lever onto the handlebars, no different from what a gas bike would have. But instead of pulling a cable that goes to a clutch, this system is purely electronic.

When you pull the clutch lever in, that tells the system to reduce the electric motor output. Pull the lever halfway in, for example, and the motor’s power will be halved. Pull the lever all the way in, and just like pulling in the clutch on a gas bike, the motor produces no torque, allowing the bike to coast. All of this is electronic, hence Honda’s use of “pseudo clutch” in the patent images.

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13f is the clutch lever vibration motor, 13d is the bar end vibration motor, and 13e is the clutch lever. Credit: Honda

Also electronic is the flywheel. When you watch a motocross race, you’ll probably notice that some competitors thunder out of the gates with a huge clutch drop and an engine pegged at or near redline. Doing this allows the motorcycle to launch at peak power with all of its guns blazing. Riders launch like that as they race to get the holeshot, or be the first rider through the apex of the first turn.

Well, there are no clutch drops on a regular electric motorcycle. That leaves you with a mix of motor control from the right grip and regen when you let off the throttle. Honda realizes that many competition riders will want to have the same fine control that they’re used to, and has been spending a lot of time making electric competition bikes emulate gas bikes. The Honda RTL Electric trials bike (below), for example, has a transmission, a clutch, and a flywheel. Because of this, the rider of the RTL Electric can dump the clutch, and the spinning flywheel adds a gyroscopic effect, which helps with balance.

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For this new patent, Honda has decided to take this idea to an extreme. Instead of installing a real clutch and a real flywheel onto a motorcycle, it’ll just have the motorcycle pretend like it has these parts. In theory, what this means is that you can hold the “clutch” lever all the way in, crank up the throttle, and then drop the lever, getting a launch that should look and feel like a clutch drop. Yet, no clutch or flywheel is actually involved. It’s purely electronic.

I’ve searched Honda’s patent records and have found that the company has been working on this “pseudo clutch” idea since at least 2019. In the previous iteration of Honda’s pseudo clutch, an ECU would take in readings from the right grip throttle and a switch attached to the clutch lever. The inputs would be measured against a calculation and then sent out to the motor controller and the motor. The end result was that the electric motorcycle should behave like a gasser.

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The system’s flow. Honda

Basically, if you pulled the clutch lever in a certain percentage while giving the throttle grip a percentage of twist, the computer would give you a motor output that’s meant to feel like you’re slipping a clutch. Some motocross riders might use their clutch to keep their revs high while going through ruts, turns, or rough parts of the track. In Honda’s eye, by faking a clutch and a flywheel, the rider of an electric motocross bike can do the same things they’re used to on a gas bike.

Something that is new on the 2026 version of the Honda pseudo clutch is the feedback system. Honda wants the rider to get the same sorts of vibrations that they might get on a gas motocross bike. To simulate this, Honda has placed three vibration motors on the motorcycle. One is inside the throttle grip, another on the left grip, and a third in the fake clutch lever. Presumably, the vibrations produced by these motors will replicate the revving from a gas engine, which the rider might use to inform their movements with the fake clutch lever.

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13d, 13b, and 13f are the vibration motors. Honda

Of course, the weird caveat here is that there isn’t a real clutch, a real flywheel, or any mechanical device outside of the electric motor. Instead, it’s the bike pretending that your left fingers squeezing the lever is actually acting on a clutch, reducing output. When you drop the lever with the throttle grip turned, it tells the motor to give you max torque at that instant rather than ramp up, as would happen if you just twisted the throttle without messing with the clutch lever.

All of this, Honda thinks, is supposed to make an electric competition motorcycle have control behavior that’s on par with a gas bike. If you’re used to running gas motocross bikes, maybe this system would make the transition to an electric motocross bike easier.

I Could See A Fake Clutch On A Streetbike

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I can see one big practical use for a part of this system on a road-legal electric motorcycle. A lot of common electric motorcycles go straight into regen the moment you stop twisting the throttle. This is great if you’re intending to slow down, annoying if you’re just trying to coast. A gas bike will slowly lose speed if you close the throttle, or just coast if you pull the clutch lever in. But replicating that in an electric bike sometimes means going through menus on a screen or thumbing a switch on the bar. A fake clutch lever could be used as a very easy way to add a coast mode to an electric motorcycle.

Of course, all of this comes with the caveat that it’s extremely common for companies to file weird patents and then do nothing with them. Honda hasn’t announced any plans to sell an electric motorcycle with a fake clutch and even its prototype competition bikes have remained just that. So, there could be a whole lot of nothing going on here.

Still, I love looking into patents like this because they’re fun and ask the question of “what if?” Do we really need electric motorcycles that try their hardest to pretend to have a gas engine? I’m not sure we do. As I said before, the lack of vibrations and transmission is a bonus of electric bikes to me. But I can appreciate the amount of thinking that Honda has clearly put into this idea over the course of several years.

 

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Cars? I've owned a few
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Cars? I've owned a few
1 month ago

How much do the vibration motors reduce the range? Or perhaps more importantly, reduce motive force through the rear wheel?

SCOTT GREEN
SCOTT GREEN
1 month ago

I can’t help but be reminded of the old scifi novel by C. M. Kornbluth, The Marching Morons.

Ben
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Ben
1 month ago

While I get that re-learning muscle memory is hard, my understanding is that riding an e-moto is so much easier precisely because it doesn’t require all of the fiddly stuff with clutches, so you’re going to be faster on one even if you have the muscle memory for a gas bike. Also, given how touchy professional riders are about their clutch feel (cable versus hydraulic is still very much a debate), I have to wonder if this is even going to be a good enough replacement to satisfy them.

In the long run, I think this is just a motorcycle version of fake gear shifts, a thing I hate. The fact that it’s simulating a manual might make a difference, but I’d have to ride one to decide if it’s cool to be able to shift an electric motorcycle, or if it feels completely hollow because it’s entirely simulated.

PlatinumZJ
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PlatinumZJ
1 month ago

I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who jumped to some conclusions with that headline! XD

The vibration motors kinda make sense in this case though. I’ve never ridden any kind of motorcycle, but I like the idea of the rider receiving feedback (sort of like a real-life game controller).

Bkp
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Bkp
1 month ago

The clutch simulation sounds useful in the situations already pointed out.

Something that exists just to make sounds and vibrations just seems silly to me, like the grownup version of the playing card clothes-pinned onto the bicycle spokes.

Oil Leaks Means There’s Still Oil
Oil Leaks Means There’s Still Oil
1 month ago

TL;DR: I’d rather have a fake clutch and flywheel than none at all.

As a motocrosser of more than 30 years, I can attest that there is a performance use case for this. Like Mercedes said about being able to pull the clutch to coast, and for starts but there’s more.

On a small bore bike (especially a 125 2-stroke with a narrow powerband) you will actually rail the outside line of a berm to maintain momentum, and when the force of the turn puts extra load on the engine forcing the RPMs down and out of the powerband, instead of downshifting for 1/2 second just to upshift exiting the corner, you will modulate the clutch to allow enough slip to keep the engine in the sweet spot. Then exiting the corner the clutch is dumped back out. This way, the throttle stays pinned but you can keep your engine output the same (though yes, technically you’re power at the back wheel is less due to the slipping)

This is constant under competition conditions though less with torque-heavy 4 strokes. So even though an electric motor doesn’t require that modulation, the craft and technique of motocross is heavy influenced by the clutch. Sure, over time people will learn to ride differently just like the 2-stroke to 4-stroke and the kickstart to electric start (seriously changed a lot of strategies in engine setup and risk of bog).

That said, for thousands of riders the clutch is as active a part of the machine as the throttle or brakes. I compare losing the clutch more akin to having joined front and rear brakes. Could you adapt and learn to ride a motorcycle with joined brakes and just set the proportion valves how you want? Yeah. But if you’re on a motocross track and you cannot lock up the back wheel into a corner and clutch dump out, you are losing a part of what makes the sport beautiful. At least in my opinion.

Hangover Grenade
Hangover Grenade
1 month ago

These touches are sometimes silly, fun, and mostly harmless.

Hard disagree.

They are stupid and pandering. And I would argue that they harm the future of both EVs and ICE cars. They harm EV adoption because they assume enthusiast drivers will need some kind of crutch to make EVs palatable, setting future expectations. Fake shifts actually make EV’s actually slower, which is beyond ridiculous.

That Belgian Guy
That Belgian Guy
1 month ago

What they should do is create a fake kickstarter that actively tries to break your leg. Like on the old XR600R.
Without it, this is just a sissybike.

Vanagan
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Vanagan
1 month ago

That made me laugh more than I should have…and grab my shin in reflexive pain.

4jim
4jim
1 month ago

I still have scars from kickstart only bikes.

Aaronaut
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Aaronaut
1 month ago

Not sure I’d want the fake vibration, but yeah, the pseudo clutch sounds like it’s genuinely useful!

Dan1101
Dan1101
1 month ago
Reply to  Aaronaut

I think vibration could be good tactile feedback on speed/power.

Phonebem
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Phonebem
1 month ago

I look at things like this are a stopgap for the current generation of gas motocrossers until the sport is dominated by people who’ve never ridden a gas bike. I’m not saying this as a bad thing, just aknowledging that there is so much mucle memory in riding a motocross bike at it’s limits that just wouldn’t translate well to a purely electric feel without a very painful (figuratively and literally) learning curve.
Honestly, I think it would be harder for an experienced rider to re-learn and get back to their prior level than it would be for a beginner to start from scratch…

Last edited 1 month ago by Phonebem
4jim
4jim
1 month ago

I am glad that they gave reasoning other than “we want to put on more stuff that costs more, weighs more, and can break, just to give people a pacifier.”

Joe User
Joe User
1 month ago

There was another electric motorcycle that actually had a clutch and 6 speed: the Brammo Empulse. Very few were sold in total. There’s been one for sale near me for the last 5 years, optimistic asking price hasn’t changed, mileage hasn’t changed. It has to be completely dead.

Mechanical Pig
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Mechanical Pig
1 month ago
Reply to  Joe User

If you’re near Austin, I’ve been seeing an Empulse be re-posted on the local craigslist over and over and over for at least a couple years now. The claim “still easily does 100+ miles of range” is hilarious BS since even brand new testers were lucky to get 60-70 out of them. They’ve been asking 6k for ages with clearly no takers.

I demo’d the Victory-branded version at Daytona circa 2017 or so. The factory reps said to just put it in 3rd gear and forget the transmission is there, which I guess shows how much they believed in the idea.

Joe User
Joe User
29 days ago
Reply to  Mechanical Pig

That’s the one!! One of these days I need to send that email…

James Mason
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James Mason
1 month ago

All electric vehicles should sound like the vehicles in ‘The Jetsons’. Fight me.

Dave Larkman
Dave Larkman
1 month ago
Reply to  James Mason

It should at least be an option.
It’d be fun, and cheap to do.

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
1 month ago
Reply to  Dave Larkman

Not as fun and as cheap to do as throwing the battery in the ocean.

James McHenry
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James McHenry
1 month ago
Reply to  James Mason

Nah. Tamiya. Use straight cut touring car gearboxes. The gear whine should be deafening.

Dave Larkman
Dave Larkman
1 month ago

One of my most fun days at Lotus was when a manager came out of a meeting with an OEM client holding a bunch of papers. “This is a Honda patent” he said “ they want us to replicate all of the advantages but in a way that doesn’t infringe on the patent”

It took me a week, but I did it. Lovely logic puzzle. Then we got a six month project to do it all properly.

Logan
Logan
1 month ago

I can understand doing faffery like this a lot more on an electric motorcycle than I do on an EV.

Knowonelse
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Knowonelse
1 month ago

I drove my ’06 Prius on twisty steep roads like it had a clutch. Press the pedal, get acceleration, back off to let the electric motor slow down, punch it again to get the electric motor boost. Repeat as needed. Yeah, it depletes the battery quickly, but fun!

Eggsalad
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Eggsalad
1 month ago

Useless fact of the day:
If you’ve been to the circus, perhaps you’ve seen the Globe of Death, the giant sphere in which a motorcycle is ridden all around it, including upside down.

It can only be done with a 2-stroke engine. Inverting a 4-stroke bike would empty the crankcase into the underside of the pistons, resulting in Very Bad Things.

In theory, it should be possible to ride an electric motorcycle in the Globe of Death. Losing the 2-stroke noises would make it very surreal, but it’s certainly possible. This fake clutch and flywheel, though, would be very helpful in this endeavor.

Mechanical Pig
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Mechanical Pig
1 month ago
Reply to  Eggsalad

I’ve seen that stunt done with all sorts of bikes, including Harley’s, sport bikes, or pitbikes that were all 4 stroke engines.

The same centripetal force that lets them ride it upside down also keeps the oil flung down into the sump as intended.

AutoTea
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AutoTea
1 month ago

This is giving ‘2001 Harry Potter broomstick toy’ with more steps

Last edited 1 month ago by AutoTea
Gene
Gene
1 month ago

Can Dodge get in on this?

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 month ago
Reply to  Gene

What, having more than one vehicle model?

Gene
Gene
1 month ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

To add to the fratastic exhaust noise of the EV Charger. (If it’s still out)

RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
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RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
1 month ago

The headline reminded me of this:

JERRY: You faked it?

ELAINE: I faked it.

JERRY: That whole thing, the whole production, it was all an act?

ELAINE: Not bad huh?

JERRY: What about the breathing, the panting, the moaning, the screaming?

ELAINE: Fake, fake, fake, fake.
————————————
KRAMER: You know, I faked it.

JERRY: What?!

KRAMER: Yeah.

JERRY: You faked it? Why would you do that?

KRAMER: Well you know, if it’s enough already and I just wanna get some sleep…

H4llelujah
H4llelujah
1 month ago

If it works very, very fast, I could see this being a huge step towards adoption with traditional riders. In tight woods riding and shooting steep long hills in the woods, being able to instantaneously interrupt the power and snap back on again can be the difference in making it up a hill, over a log, or preventing a crash. I’ve tried a few electric bikes but none have that instant, RIGHT NOW snap of power that comes with holding the throttle wide open, pulling the clutch back and releasing it.

Could be huge, because theoretically, I’d imagine an electric bike would kill all of the things that make long, steep, technical climbs so sketchy.

Last edited 1 month ago by H4llelujah
Phonebem
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Phonebem
1 month ago
Reply to  H4llelujah

I somehow missed yours before commenting.
I think this could go a long way toward making electric bikes feel less alien for experienced riders. There’s so much that happens involving the clutch and manipulating the engines gyroscopic forces that is purely at the subconscious muscle memory level. I could actually see a beginner rider having an easier time getting to a fairly high skill level than a high level gas rider successfully transitioning to an electric bike and getting back to their previous level.

Emil Minty
Emil Minty
1 month ago

I’m waiting for the Hitachi Magic Wand collab.

Josh Taylor
Josh Taylor
1 month ago

I do kinda get this. As we get further into electrification, it seems like people are realizing that the limitations the older tech had were appealing to some. It is really fun to shift your own gears when driving a motorcycle so I get it.

Phonebem
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Phonebem
1 month ago
Reply to  Josh Taylor

Accidental reply…

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