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Ouch: Hot Emblems Are Allegedly Burning Logos Into The Skin Of Mercedes-AMG Owners

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When it comes to cars, “branding” always has to do with marketing and product positioning and all that, and nothing to do with hot irons searing designs into hides. Well, most of the time that’s not what “branding” refers to – but in this case, it is indeed the latter as Mercedes-AMG is currently subject to a class-action lawsuit that alleges its cars are quite literally leaving their mark on customers.

The suit centers on the fact that some of the decorative elements inside the cars can heat up so dramatically in direct sunlight that even brief contact with them can burn markings into unprotected skin, resulting in something that very much resembles a branding mark.

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Two customers in southern California have raised the issue, both alleging that a metal badge sewn into the upper seat area on many AMG models soaked up enough sun to become a second-degree burn waiting to happen and providing evidence of their injuries.

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This small, decorative seat-back emblem is at the heart of the case. Photo: Mercedes-AMG

According to the court filings, one driver in Los Angeles — Gabriel Lahijani — climbed into his leased car wearing a tank top on his way to the gym and was instantly burned on contact with the badge:

“Mr. Lahijani sought urgent-care treatment and was diagnosed with a second-degree burn. A board-certified dermatologist subsequently documented first- and second-degree burns with crusting and deflated bullae, described the injury as ‘AMG inscribed,’ attributed it to the interior car-logo plaque, photographed it, and advised Mr. Lahijani concerning wound care, likely discoloration, and possible scarring”

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An AMG E-Class like the type in the class action suit. Photo: Mercedes-AMG

The second recorded incident occurred a few weeks later, with Mercedes owner Karendeep “Karina” Bath. Although the model of AMG isn’t recorded, the suit indicates it has the same badge in the same seat-back location and inflicted a similar injury:

“After parking her Mercedes-AMG vehicle on Ventura Boulevard in Los Angeles, Ms. Bath returned to the vehicle and, while wearing a sleeveless top, entered the driver’s seat. Her shoulder immediately contacted the raised AMG logo badge on the seat, causing a burning sensation. She did not initially realize she had been burned; over the following days, a mark in the shape of the AMG logo darkened and became visible on her skin, consistent with a thermal contact burn.”

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Their suit hinges on the fact that a shiny metal badge located in an area that would catch a lot of sunlight — especially in southern California — without any thermal protection or warning constitutes a hazardous defect.

Whether ultimately successful or not, the issue is one that arguably should have been anticipated. Even in spots around the world that see fewer sunlight hours and less intense sun than Los Angeles, different areas of your car’s interior can heat up at different rates and quickly become uncomfortable to touch.

Darker finishes naturally heat up quickly in direct sunlight, but also radiate heat more readily and cool down just as rapidly. You may have found your probably-black steering wheel becoming very hot when you first get into the car but cooling down once you set off, or settled into some toasty black leather seats.

Shiny metal components reflect a lot of light but smaller ones also heat up rapidly due to high conductivity and low specific heat capacity, as those of us with aluminum gear shift knobs may have discovered. When surrounded by insulating materials, such as in a seat back, the chance of them becoming dangerously hot increases, and placing them in a position against which you’re likely to rest a part of your body could be a recipe for a painful experience – as seems the case here.

In the meantime, if you’ve got a Mercedes-AMG or other car with such a decorative feature, maybe at least toss on a t-shirt before hopping into the driver’s seat after your car’s been baking in the sun.

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Nathan Williams
Nathan Williams
1 month ago

They’re missing a trick too reverse the logo and call it a feature

Freddy Bartholomew
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Freddy Bartholomew
1 month ago

Typically smooth and/or shiny metals have low emissivity. They don’t radiate the heat away. Many years ago I found that you can bead-blast a metal surface and raise its emissivity substantially.
– lapsed physicist

PBL
PBL
1 month ago

That could have been an easy $895 option!

SukhoiRomantic
SukhoiRomantic
1 month ago

Having had second degree burns – got really badly sunburnt at an airshow it was on my face, day before a job interview too – it’s were the muscle underneath your skin also gets burnt – I feel quite sorry for the two people affected. I’m guessing a recall to remove the seat badges is in order which will also be a pain.

Dodsworth
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Dodsworth
1 month ago

Am I the only one who uses a windshield shade in the summer? It helps a lot. In my younger days I threw a towel over the steering wheel and shifter.

DNF
DNF
1 month ago

If you keep talking about it, soon people will be deliberately branding themselves, whether they have an AMG or not!

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago

Sounds like NXIVM. Pretty soon they wil make you pay extra for that .

Lotsofchops
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Lotsofchops
1 month ago

Manufacturers still put mirror-finish logos on their steering wheels to try and burn my retinas, so this isn’t terribly surprising.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 month ago

I have a scar from a seat belt buckle burn after my rental car was sitting in the sun in Dallas all day. Maybe I should sue somebody?

Bags
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Bags
1 month ago
Reply to  Kevin Rhodes

I spent some summers in Phoenix (don’t recommend) and working at a dealer moving around/washing cars. People there don’t open their windows between May and September, even when parking in the sun – I got in a Cadillac once that showed an interior temp of 143 degrees. Black on black car parked in full sun with all windows closed as all customer cars were.
Anyway, a lot of cars have a belt buckle that hangs right at muffin-top height when not in use. Holy. Shit. That. Shit. Hurts.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 month ago
Reply to  Bags

I can only imagine. Dallas was bad enough, IIRC it was 112F that day. The one time I was in Phoenix outside the airport was due to a missed connection. It was 114F – at midnight, as I was waiting for the shuttle to my hotel for the night. Yowsa. A dry heat – like an oven baking a turkey.

Mike F.
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Mike F.
1 month ago

Having worked in restaurants for a fair number of years in my youth, I still see second degree burns as a “shake it off” sort of thing. I’m not saying that’s smart, but the idea of a class action lawsuit seems a bit much. I’ll bet there’s a recall on the way, though.

SukhoiRomantic
SukhoiRomantic
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike F.

I agree a class action lawsuit seems a bit much but definitely an approach to MB to recall the car or change the design and pay for any medical out of pocket expenses would be fair

SNL-LOL Jr
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SNL-LOL Jr
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike F.

I was really into electronics back in high school. I probably had more burns like these from the soldering iron than there are stars in the Universe.

Jack Trade
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Jack Trade
1 month ago

Ford went through this with the SN95 Mustang special editions (Bullitt and Mach 1) and their cast aluminum ball shift knobs. At least then, you’d maybe get a shift pattern diagram on your hand like some crazy gear head, not a logo like, er, this.

Balloondoggle
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Balloondoggle
1 month ago
Reply to  Jack Trade

The Nazis would never find the Ark with a shift pattern branded on their palm.

Balloondoggle
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Balloondoggle
1 month ago
Reply to  Jack Trade

The bad guys would never find the Ark with a shift pattern branded on their palms.

CarEsq
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CarEsq
1 month ago
Reply to  Balloondoggle

“They’re digging in the wrong place!”

Jack Trade
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Jack Trade
1 month ago
Reply to  Balloondoggle

They don’t know about the threads on the other end!

Ishkabibbel
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Ishkabibbel
1 month ago
Reply to  Balloondoggle

Who reaches into a fire and flat-palms a large chunk of metal and glass like that anyway?

Dumb bad guy, deserved to dig in the wrong spot.

FndrStrat06
FndrStrat06
1 month ago

Can confirm, the satin silver trim on my GTI’s shift knob is hotter than the sun this time of year. Makes it fun to do the thing.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 month ago
Reply to  FndrStrat06

This is why Dog invented windshield sunscreens. Don’t leave home without one.

Droid
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Droid
1 month ago
Reply to  FndrStrat06

i put a beer coozy on metallic shift knob when i park.
crude but effective

Lotsofchops
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Lotsofchops
1 month ago
Reply to  FndrStrat06

Sounds like a perfect use of genuine The Autopian®-branded Car Shifter Hoodie Covers™. With a genuine The Autopian®-branded Car Shifter Hoodie Cover™, you never have to worry about burnt palms ever again!

FndrStrat06
FndrStrat06
1 month ago
Reply to  Lotsofchops

Oh snap… you’re right!

Last edited 1 month ago by FndrStrat06
Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
1 month ago

That sounds like something King Ranch would do LOL

Whatsanautopian
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Whatsanautopian
1 month ago

when is the autopian’s logo hoodie being released?

Mike F.
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Mike F.
1 month ago

What I’m looking for is an Autopian metal plate with an adhesive backing that I can stick on my car seat. The brand would be a cool thing to show off at the next Cars and Coffee…..

Whatsanautopian
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Whatsanautopian
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike F.

ha, now that’s some good merchandising! i’ll take two so my passenger gets a fun surprise as well.

Abdominal Snoman
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Abdominal Snoman
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike F.

It was shockingly easy (4-6 minutes) to go from their logo to a 3d model you could send to somebody like sendcutsend.com to get laser or waterjet cut.

If interested, right click the logo and open it as a new tab, save the .webp file to your computer. I then dragged it from that tab to another tab at https://www.freeconvert.com/image-converter with the default settings but B&W to turn it into an SVG file and downloaded it (https://s107-isny.freeconvert.com/task/6a7a8fed1134d5c987ee8cb8/autopian-logo.svg should work for the next 8 hours they say). Then I used https://convertio.co/ to convert it to a DXF file (https://s177.convertio.me/p/s7AvFYnUEmpMIiBEZnSDjQ/29bfe898cafd139bbfd4c5c852fa4f78/autopian-logo_1.dxf should work for 24 hours). This file came back too bug so I last used https://rickylaserart.com/scale-dxf-file-online-free/ to scale it to 100mm wide (https://api.rickylaserart.com/asdt/outputs/30013cd8_autopian-logo_1_scaled_4pct.dxf should work for :shrug: hours).

This can be imported into sendcutsend.com and to make 4 of these in 1.5mm mild steel would be $16.40 or $15.80 in 5052 1.6mm aluminum.

Mike F.
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Mike F.
1 month ago

Amazing!

Abdominal Snoman
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Abdominal Snoman
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike F.

My first reply got moderated as it included links to 3 online conversion tools and 3 links to the output files so I understand why it can be viewed as unsafe, but in roughly 5 minutes I converted their .webp logo into a B&W SVG using freeconvert, then used convertio to convert that to a dxf file, and finally rickylaserart to scale it down to 100mm by 12.something mm. This can be imported into sendcutsend and it was just under $17 to get 4 of these in steel or $16 to get them in aluminum in 4 days.

Abdominal Snoman
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Abdominal Snoman
1 month ago

PS – if any moderators are watching, feel free to either delete my previous post, or remove the download links and delete this one.

(…Aaand, use my last link if you want but please order a big batch of like 100 of these and put them up for sale if they turn out good, as I almost pulled the trigger on getting 4 of them in both aluminum and steel. The first to be used as stickers, and the latter to get welded on to things)

Last edited 1 month ago by Abdominal Snoman
DNF
DNF
1 month ago

It could be approved eventually if it was auto modded.

DNF
DNF
1 month ago

I think the ideal for branding is heavy copper.

Abdominal Snoman
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Abdominal Snoman
1 month ago
Reply to  DNF

See, I was thinking unprotected mild-steel so some of the rust permanently transfers over to give it that authentic Autopian essence.

DNF
DNF
1 month ago

That’s thinking ahead!

Mike F.
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Mike F.
1 month ago

Gotta love this place. Just mention an idea and within hours, someone’s figured out how to produce it, rust included, and for a reasonable price at that!

Abdominal Snoman
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Abdominal Snoman
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike F.

never underestimate the power of alcohol, boredom, and not wanting to go to bed

DNF
DNF
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike F.

Mirror image font or normal?

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 month ago

Somewhere Dave Tracy is trying to work up the courage to do this against the steaming hot grille of a Jeep.

Y2Keith
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Y2Keith
1 month ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

2nd-degree tetanus.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 month ago
Reply to  Y2Keith

It’s “Michigan rust free”

A Tangle of Kraken
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A Tangle of Kraken
1 month ago

This brings a a whole new level to “you are the product”.

Space
Space
1 month ago

Get with the times Mercedes, GM had seatbelts that burned you 50 years ago.

Abdominal Snoman
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Abdominal Snoman
1 month ago
Reply to  Space

Yet another innovation of GM’s that they pioneered early on and then abandoned until other manufacturers figured out how to do it, and often better.

Last edited 1 month ago by Abdominal Snoman
Goof
Goof
1 month ago

Whatever. Doesn’t have a three-pointed star or glow blue. LAME!

A Tangle of Kraken
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A Tangle of Kraken
1 month ago
Reply to  Goof

“Doesn’t have a three-pointed star”….yet.

Last edited 1 month ago by A Tangle of Kraken
Ishkabibbel
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Ishkabibbel
1 month ago

AMG logo is more exclusive.

Rockchops
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Rockchops
1 month ago

Who are we kidding, the modern mercedes driver loves this shit. Their entire design motif is to plaster as many benz logos as possible on every conceivable surface.

RobN
RobN
1 month ago

This is both stupid and true. Same thing happened last summer (also in Los Angeles) when my wife and I hopped in her GLE 53 AMG after parking for an hourlong lunch. The sun was hitting the driver side and turned the badge into a burning brand (literally and figuratively).

Did it hurt? Yes. Did she scream a little? Yes. Did she sue anyone about it? GTFO.

Last edited 1 month ago by RobN
RustyBritmobile
RustyBritmobile
1 month ago
Reply to  RobN

Ferrari would have sued her!

Canopysaurus
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Canopysaurus
1 month ago

Automakers take this branding shit seriously.

Rockchops
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Rockchops
1 month ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

And a bit of irony of getting branded by sitting on cowhide

Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
1 month ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

It’s very on brand for AMG.

SlowBrownWagon
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SlowBrownWagon
1 month ago

They can cool the logo if you add that feature to your subscription package.

A Tangle of Kraken
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A Tangle of Kraken
1 month ago
Reply to  SlowBrownWagon

Change for licensing? It’s the latest merch!

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
1 month ago

Germans branding people involuntarily?
Hmmmm….

When I started seeing these badges on seats, I thought it was only a matter of time.

Mercedes-Benz is making a great many unforced errors lately.

MAX FRESH OFF
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MAX FRESH OFF
1 month ago

I remember burning my hands on metal seat belt buckles back in the day in my godmother’s Cadillac. Those brushed metal ones with the starburst on the button turned lava-hot in the sun.

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
1 month ago
Reply to  MAX FRESH OFF

I remember that – especially in my Mom’s old Chevy II, where even the metal dashboard was hot to the touch.

Anoos
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Anoos
1 month ago

They’re just mad that the AMG looks backwards.

Mercedes needs to reverse the text on their branding irons so people behind the owners in line will know they drive an AMG.

LTDScott
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LTDScott
1 month ago
Reply to  Anoos

They probably don’t like Good Morning America.

Anoos
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Anoos
1 month ago
Reply to  LTDScott

Which version? Good Morning America runs well into the afternoon now.

I recently learned this, but expected it.

With the arrival of four door coupes, words became meaningless. Words mean what the marketers want them to mean. And shortly (if not already), words will mean whatever the hallucinating AIs replacing marketers want them to mean.

Last edited 1 month ago by Anoos
Rod Millington
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Rod Millington
1 month ago
Reply to  Anoos

Weirdly in the photo it doesn’t look like it is backwards. Hmmm…

Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
1 month ago
Reply to  Rod Millington

Selfie cam.

Balloondoggle
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Balloondoggle
1 month ago

I just hurt myself trying to figure out how to take a selfie of my back.

Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
1 month ago
Reply to  Balloondoggle

Sorry about that – two ibubrophen and a lie-down should fix it.

An alternative and more likely is regular cam but using a mirror. That person definitely has mirrors around.

Balloondoggle
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Balloondoggle
1 month ago

I’m always on board for a lie-down!

Dave Larkman
Dave Larkman
1 month ago
Reply to  Anoos

I hear AMG are already in brand-sharing talks with Gordon Murray Automotive.

Banana Stand Money
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Banana Stand Money
1 month ago
Reply to  Dave Larkman

You have no idea how pissed I would be if I were lucky enough to purchase a GMA and ended up getting an AMG brand from it.

Toronto_design_guy
Toronto_design_guy
1 month ago

Makes sense that Benz would have such a dumb badge on the seat back. A metal badge is just that much more comfortable and luxurious than a stitched badge. They really don’t have very thoughtful designers over there, for such a “premium” brand.

Ranwhenparked
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Ranwhenparked
1 month ago

Yeah, really, what a dumbass place for a metal badge

Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
1 month ago

Pretentiousness beats comfort, evidently.

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