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I Drove The New RWD Mazda And It’s Not The Enthusiast’s Dream Sedan Yet

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Chances are, if you’re reading this and you’ve been thinking about buying a brand new car or have done exactly that in the last couple of years, then you will have taken a good, hard look at the offerings from Mazda. A great-looking range of actual cars, stylish crossovers, and the iconic MX-5 Miata demonstrate that over the last decade or so, Mazda has been slowly carving out a niche for itself as the thinking enthusiast’s OEM. As Chrysler found out in the early nineties, when you’re not the biggest, you’ve got to be the smartest; Mazda barely makes it into the top twenty OEMs by volume worldwide, only besting such luminaries as Dongfeng Motor, BAIC, and Mitsubishi. Dwarfed by their peers, Mazda must zig where the other Japanese behemoths zag.

This dogged determination to differentiate itself in the nascent Japanese car industry saw Mazda make its name with the Wankel rotary engine. With their combination of power and light weight these whirring Dorito motors became a Mazda trademark, but horrendous fuel economy relegated them to the higher-priced RX-7 coupe when the fuel crisis hit in the seventies.

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Financial peril frequently followed until Ford took a stake in the company, during which time Mazda suffered the indignity of slapping its badge on various nineties Ford products. After the turn of the century came some well-regarded Mazdaspeed cars, and since escaping the shackles of Dearborn and refinancing in 2011, Mazda has been finally free to do its own thing. The Mazdaspeed models might not be around any longer, but the MX-5 remaining a constant in the range demonstrates throughout all this corporate turmoil shows Mazda still cares. Zoom Zoom isn’t just the usual empty advertising copy line.

 

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In 2012, Mazda unveiled one of the best-looking sedans of recent memory – the GJ1 Mazda 6. Led by studio chief Akira Tamatani it was the second production car to feature Mazda’s ‘Kodo – Soul of Motion’ design language, which had been introduced on CX-5. In Japanese Kodo means ‘heartbeat’; according to Chief Designer Ikuo Maeda:

“In Japan, we feel that craftsmen inject life into what they make. We believe that a form sincerely and painstakingly made by human hands gets a soul”.

What this PR guff translates to in the real world is a series of cars with tautly defined fenders with sculpted and waisted bodysides that do away with pointless feature lines,  instead creating interesting shadows and highlights across the sheet metal. Mazda designers found inspiration in the image of a cheetah, which is ironic because if it had rear-wheel drive, the Mazda 6 is the car Jaguar should have made if they had any balls, instead of the wretchedly dull XE.

Dreams Meet Reality

I have good news: the new Mazda 6e now has rear-wheel drive. A slinky sedan that has a proper hatch pushed down the road via the back wheels – what a novelty. As you’ve worked out, the e-suffix means it’s EV only for now – I’ll come back to this – but at this point we’re past the stage where EVs are the sole purview of early adopters and EV evangelists; they’re now an accepted part of motoring life. As Mazda said at the drive event I attended, if you want them to keep building the MX-5, this is how you keep building the MX-5.

Mazda 6e

So how did this relatively small company manage to build a whole new Rear Wheel Drive EV? The truth is they didn’t do all the work themselves – the 6e is a product of Mazda’s decades-long partnership with China’s third biggest manufacturer Changan and their EV division, Deepal. The 6e is the bones of a Deepal SL03 wearing the flesh of a Mazda like a Buffalo Bill skin suit. Eyebrows may be cocked at this approach, but platform sharing, even across different manufacturers is not a new thing. What is important is that everything the customer can see or touch, with one glaring exception, is unique to the Mazda. These are what are known in car designer speak as ‘A’ surfaces. When it comes to unseen parts (‘B’ surfaces), according to the product specialist I spoke to, both the front and rear subframes, as well as the front wishbones, are unique to the 6e as well. This is all done to ensure it drives like a Mazda as well as feeling and looking like one.

Mazda 6e

Mazda 6e

Although it’s constrained by using the body-in-white (the underlying structure stripped completely bare) of the Deepal SL-03, Mazda has managed to conjure up a stunning-looking car. Viewed from the front three-quarters, the forward rake makes it look ready to pounce, like those big cats the Mazda designers are so enamored with.

The Mazda five-point grill is present and correct, but the usual chrome trim around the bottom half has been swapped out for a light arrangement capable of showing the amount of charge in the battery when plugged in, and the various sensors are well hidden. At the back, the rear lights have four semi-circular elements referencing classic Mazdas from the past, namely the FD RX-7. Hmmm. Anyway, the point is a lot of new EVs, including some from China, wear thin strip lighting front and back which, coupled with generic aero sheet metal, serves up soft focus pastel futurism – a sort of Sino-licon Valley rounded corner aesthetic that doesn’t threaten. But neither does it define or inspire. Mazda knows what’s expected of a sporting sedan and delivers frameless doors and a sinewy feel wrapped in an excellently tailored exterior with a keen sense of its own identity.

Mazda 6e

Amateur Hour

That Kodo body surfacing is best experienced in Mazda’s Soul Red; filing cabinet gray flattens the curves and swallows light like a Space Shuttle tile. Because even at 52, I was the youngest and thinnest auto writer at the event, when it came time to drive, I made sure I was first out the door to snag the Takumi Plus trim car, which married a Soul Red exterior with the caramel leather and suede interior–choose your partners, everyone, if you hesitate the good ones are gone.

Color and trim variations aside, all the cars present were the same mechanical spec – a 241 bhp, 320NM (236lbs ft) rear-mounted motor pulling electrons from an 80 kWh cell pack for a 343 WLTP range. These specs are not particularly blowing my skirt up, but do you know the battery size in your phone? What matters to customers is how fast, how far, and how long it takes to charge. The press pack says 0-60 is 7.8 seconds, but a hard stamp on the go pedal to get past dawdlers on the suggested drive route saw me blitzing them like a JASDF F2 lighting the burner. The Mazda quoted time, I can safely say, is on the conservative side. Top speed is listed as 108 mph, but I didn’t quite get the opportunity to check that for myself, officer. What you need to know is acceleration is available in abundance throughout the speed range.

Mazda 6e

As for leg length or charging times in the real world, I can’t comment yet, not because of embargos but this was only a one-day media drive (very) ahead of a full UK launch. There are actually two battery capacities available: as well as the 80kWh ‘long range’ I got to try that charges at 90 kW; a smaller 68.8 ‘performance’ pack with 298 WLTP range available on the mainland, charges at up to 200 kW. You read that right – the smaller battery has a higher peak charging rate than the bigger one. The reason for this discrepancy is differing pack chemistries: the 80 kW pack uses NMC (nickel manganese cobalt) and the 68.8 kW one LFP (lithium ion phosphate). Going from 10 to 80% the slower pack takes 47 minutes; after 300 miles on the road I need about that to visit the bogs, grab coffee and have a smoke anyway.

So does it drive like a Mazda? I’m afraid I can’t say as I’ve only driven a current ND MX-5 Miata, and that was a short go at an industry test event a couple of years ago. All I can do is judge the 6e on its own merits as presented to me in this demo tape form, so with that in mind, nothing I’m about to say should be taken as a definitive verdict.

Because at the moment, the ingredients are all there, but it doesn’t feel quite cooked properly. The steering is fast and accurate but lifeless and light, even when you’re haring round a bend with some load on. The suspension bumps and thumps away over crappy tarmac, but the nose pitches up and down even at low speeds – so maybe there’s a mismatch between spring and damper rates.

Hitting a mid-corner bump with the 6e on the door handles set off a weird corkscrewing motion through the body as the rear struggled to get it all gathered up. There are different driving modes, but switching into the firmer one just meant this all happened at faster speeds. It feels like “Comfort” is not soft enough and “Dynamic” is not firm enough. The standard fit 245/45 R19 Michelin e-Primacy tires didn’t protest or slip once throughout some extremely heavy-handed acceleration and braking and turning maneuvers, which is impressive for a 4490 lbs. (2037 kg) car.

Mazda 6e

Mazda 6e

Entering this upscale Takumi Plus 6e is like pulling on a sheepskin overcoat – warm, soft, comfortable, and very brown. Non-Plus Takumi trim levels come equipped with grey or black dentist chair vinyl, so Plus is the one you want to be forking out for to get the genuine leather and suede. That also gets you a panoramic roof with front and rear electric sunshades, and the car I drove came equipped with something that should be on every single car on sale – a HUD. There’s plenty of room, the driving position is appropriately languid, and it’s all generally very agreeable. Mazda clearly put a lot of time, effort, and money into developing the interior. Because of that cab-rearward proportion headroom in the back is great, but weirdly the rear floor feels higher than the front. The seating position back there is much more sitting-down-to-dinner as opposed to the front. I’ve not driven a Tesla Model 3, but I have sat in one, and in that car you were acutely aware the cells were in the floor such was the effect of the raised H-point (hip height from the ground plane). With the 6e you’d only guess if you were a rear seat passenger.

Mazda 6e

What the 6e does have that Tesla doesn’t is a full-size hatch. Trunk space is 16.5 cu ft (466 liters) with the seats up and 38 cu ft (1074 liters) with them folded flat. Up front is a 2.5 cu ft (72 liter) frunk with a hidden floor and a drain plug. Thoughtfully, there’s a branded tote to hide your week’s supply of Suntory whiskey when leaving Safeway, although Mazda suggested this might be an optional extra. Although final pricing has yet to be figured out, it will start with a 4, so charging extra for a bag is a bit cheeky. Standard equipment-wise wise nothing obvious was lacking – in spirit and refinement, this is clearly a semi-premium sedan. In execution and interaction, however, the picture gets murkier.

Unless you are familiar with the Deepal SL-03 (and why would any of us be, I had to look it up doing my research), on the outside the Mazda doesn’t betray its origins at all. When it comes to the IMAX screen plonked on the dash inside, it is another matter entirely. Most secondary controls are relegated to the touchscreen, including HVAC, lighting, and wipers. It’s easier to tell you what hard controls you do get – seat adjustment, stalks for the indicators, drive selector, and screen wash. On the wheel are haptic buttons for the cruise control, drive modes, context-dependent up, down, left and right menu controls, and two programmable favorite buttons. And that’s about it.

Mazda 6e

It’s A Lot Like Learning The Violin

Now I understand this will be a showstopper for some people and considering VW’s struggles to get this stuff right and general pushback around the idea of having many of your interactions with a vehicle through a touchscreen, especially from a safety point of view. However, some of these things, like lights and temperature, fall into the ‘set and forget’ category: once we’ve got a car configured to operate the way we want, we’re not constantly fiddling with it.

An extended period with the 6e would prove the efficacy (or not) of automatic lights and wipers, and there are gesture controls and voice controls as well (which I didn’t have the time or inclination to try), but it does feel like a retrograde step. The graphics and menu layout are not great either – the iconography on the driver’s display feels amateurish, and I had to pull over to figure out how to turn off the auto 360-degree display, which popped up every time I signaled and turned the wheel a certain amount. That was bloody intrusive and annoying, but it speaks to the underlying issue – lots of software-based features but little to no thought into things like consistent typography, menu hierarchy, and all the other stuff that goes into making a pleasant and seamless user experience. To use a filthy Windows/glorious Mac user master race analogy feels lazy, but I can’t think of a more appropriate one.

Mazda 6e

So the GUI needs at least another pass, and the ride and handling are a bit inconsistent. That is stuff that can and will be changed before the car hits the UK market in late 2026. Part of the reason for letting media yahoos like me loose in the 6e so far in advance of release is to solicit feedback that can inform development, and everything I’ve told you I told them on the day.

Because we’re customer service fourth here at the Autopian, I also borrowed Matt’s journalism hat and asked the PR reps present the hard-hitting questions on your behalf. Will it be available in the U.S.? Unknown, and at the time of writing, I’ve not had an answer. Will there be a wagon version? Definitely not. Presumably, Mazda looked at the numbers from the previous model, and the capitalism didn’t add up. Will there be a pure ICE version? A physical impossibility given the platform, so negatory there. But the Deepal SL-03 now has an EREV version, so Mazda could transplant that powertrain into the 6e, which would stick an electrode through any range and charging hang-ups anyone may have. Also, there is no dubious self-driving functionality of any level.

From certain quarters, the coverage of Chinese EVs is deafening, which to me all feels like a rerun of the Tesla coverage from a couple of years back. Legacy OEMs and ICE are dead, EVs are the future, innovate or die blah blah. Now there are plenty of options available from all OEMs, but they haven’t yet seen truly mass-adoption because we’ve not reached the point where customers can get better usability for less money than ICE cars give them. Mazda leveraging its Changan tie-up, gives them a very smart way of hedging their EV bets without committing eye-watering amounts of money, something they don’t really have the resources for. What Mazda has done with the 6e is focus its resources on the areas it excels at: interior and exterior design. Now that’s taken care of, Mazda need to focus on the driving and user experience.

Top image: Mazda UK Media. All other images author.

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It's Pronounced Porch-ah
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It's Pronounced Porch-ah
4 months ago

Great looking car from the side profile and front 3/4 view, but not exactly my taste from the rear, I really hope Mazda enjoys some success in the next 10 years and that might push them to take a risk on a big sports sedan/wagon but I know thats just a dream.

Rockchops
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Rockchops
4 months ago

I generally like Mazda’s design and it often looks higher end than their price point/class. This one misses on the exterior design front…woof. But I don’t think I’ve ever driven one outside of a Miata and RX8 that I’ve actually enjoyed. Your comments about the ride and handling describe almost every “normal” mazda I’ve driven in the last 10-15 years. Too firm to be comfortable daily, and they’re simply not sports cars. I don’t really need a rental CX30 or whatever to be a sports car…I need a CUV to be comfortable and that’s about it.

RallyMech
RallyMech
4 months ago

If anyone in a design studio reads this, please for the love of god stop putting important controls in the touch screen. Auto wipers still generally suck. Massive screens that trash your vision at night suck. Touch Capacitive buttons, whether plastic or touch screen, take your attention off the road.

There should be zero reason to use a touch screen during the normal operation of a vehicle. Your radio/audiobooks/podcasts are not a required part of driving, so I’m not talking about entertainment.

Ana Osato
Ana Osato
4 months ago

The rear end is a little… brave.
Other than that, it’s a handsome saloon with a power train that interests me not one bit.

JC 06Z33
JC 06Z33
4 months ago
Reply to  Ana Osato

Yeah, that rear is missing the mark for me a bit. I do like how they’ve kept their design language since way back when they redesigned the 6 in 2014 (which I owned for a while and still think is a handsome car today), but that top trunk edge jutting and overhanging the bumper is definitely a choice. Not sure I could live with that tbh, which is a shame because the rest of the car is gorgeous.

Kevin Cheung
Kevin Cheung
4 months ago

I have the EREV version of the 6e (in China), and 2000km later I believe you’re pretty much spot on with your takes. I genuinely adore how good this car looks (in red of course!), I generally enjoy how it handles and drives, and I really really dislike the huge touchscreen, so much so that it almost became a deal breaker. But like you said, HVAC is pretty much set-and-forget nowadays, and auto lights and wipers work pretty well too.

I feel this car is kinda half-baked; the HUD for example is fantastic while the screen is exactly like what you described, convoluted with a dizzying variation in fonts. Handling dynamics wise it works great 95% of the time, commuting at >50mph in an Asian metropolis and the occasional twisty mountain road, but there just isn’t enough feedback, completeness (for lack of a better word) or excitement for a “Japanese” (especially Mazda) sedan. I’d still rank it way above most of the homegrown Chinese EVs, Mazda has done a great job giving it character and soul, and it doesn’t feel like a disposable product to be rendered obsolete when the next bi-annual refresh comes around. It fits my needs perfectly too, SUV space with sedan dynamics plus a really really efficient hybrid drivetrain (100mi of EV range and 53mpg when the juice runs out).

Chinese EV (and overall automotive) hardware is pretty much flawless now, but apart from Xiaomi or Nio it’s going to take a lot more time for the rest of them to form a robust core identity other than AI+EV+self driving. Overall I’m looking forward to more Chinese collaborations, but I’m only looking for a Chinese EV powertrain and nothing else.

Kevin Cheung
Kevin Cheung
4 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Really glad to see your review! Honestly I was expecting you or the Bishop to (deservedly) tear into the 6e for its many flaws. Your nuanced writing is part of the reason why I keep coming back to this site 🙂

Harveydersehen
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Harveydersehen
4 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Did you just…

Express gratitude?

In PUBLIC?!?

Harveydersehen
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Harveydersehen
4 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

I was wondering what the “Last edited 1 day ago by Adrian Clarke” note was about.

Needles Balloon
Needles Balloon
4 months ago

The 6e was an engineering rush job after Mazda panicked in late ’23/early’ 24 and kind of rebadged the Deepal SL03, though with the re-engineered subframes as Adrian mentioned; you can tell it was a rush by the awkward unMazda-like rear proportions. Choosing an 80kWh NMC pack that can only charge at 90kW is extremely strange, is it really the correct place to pinch pennies at when there’s surely much faster cells available off the shelf in the Chinese supply chain for not much more? It’s even stranger knowing that it’s likely an export market only pack option.

Their second attempt at this Deepal platform sharing concept is the upcoming CX-6e, which has had a lot longer time in the oven and you can tell. The exterior is far more refined and even has some really unique aero tricks in the D pillar. Hopefully that model fixes the powertrain nonsense, has a sportier suspension, and comes with better software by the time it arrives.

Kevin Cheung
Kevin Cheung
4 months ago

Gandered at the CX-6e/EZ-60 in person when picking up my 6e Hybrid, and while it still has a lot of Chinese EV flaws (gigantic screen, no dash, gigantic 21 inch rims) the design still screams Mazda to me. Hope they sell well enough to bring in more rotary R&D cash

Needles Balloon
Needles Balloon
4 months ago
Reply to  Kevin Cheung

Unfortunately given the upcoming 2026 CX-5 refresh, those Chinese EV flaws aren’t limited to Chinese based Mazdas anymore.

Kevin Cheung
Kevin Cheung
4 months ago

You either die a legendary Japanese carmaker, or live long enough to see yourself turn into a Chinese AI EV mobility solution subscription provider 🙁

Whale-Tail
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Whale-Tail
4 months ago

Honestly I do not like the way this looks. At all. Add in the range, power, and charging speed – or rather, the relative lack of all three – and it’s tough to see this being a success.

Maybe I’m just being a hater. I have nothing against Mazda fundamentally but I think the constant fanboyism online around what are perfectly fine but not world-altering cars has kind of gotten to me.

Pimento
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Pimento
4 months ago

Make it an EREV wagon and add some buttons and you got yourself a solid maybe.

AMGx2
AMGx2
4 months ago

The car looks handsome, both inside and outside. And that’s about it. Range is meh. Performance is meh. Price is not meh.

Manwich Sandwich
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Manwich Sandwich
4 months ago

“Trunk space is 16.5 cu ft (466 liters) with the seats up ”

That’s tiny for a car with a hatchback. By comparison, the 2008 Honda Fit I had had trunk with over 20 cu ft with the seats up.

And my Ford C-Max Energi has 19.2 cu ft with the seats up.

Last edited 4 months ago by Manwich Sandwich
Zeppelopod
Zeppelopod
4 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

I’ll also say that how the space is arranged is quite important. My Volt had far less cargo space than my wife’s C-Max hybrid but the C-Max was all vertical whereas the Volt’s was horizontal. Add in the liftback and the smaller cargo hold ended up being more useful day-to-day than the ostensibly larger one.

0l0id
0l0id
4 months ago

Here, I fixed it:

https://i.postimg.cc/26fgjthF/new-mazda6-correct.jpg

Now it just needs the 6 cylinder engine from the CX90, in the same orientation. Until it’s another Prius with an [admittedly a very] attractive face.

…oh and someone hotglued an ipad in the center of the dash. Remove it and give it back to whoever did it. No need for it here, it’s a car not a movie theatre.

0l0id
0l0id
4 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

I suppose you’re right, it is way too far forward. So perhaps increasing axle to dash without sacrificing bumper depth would have been more appropriate. This sort of change happened with Toyota Mirai between the first and second generations and I think changed the car for the better.

Regardless, in its current configuration I feel its proportions resemble any of the myriad fwd sedans out there with transverse engines. Increasing the axle to dash would at least make it a bit more interesting. What do you think?

Slant Six
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Slant Six
4 months ago

Tempting. But I’m not giving up my 2018 Mazda6 <yet> for this… this… EV semi-non-Mazda you write of <or most any other car, really>.

My current ICE Mazda6 is an *amazing* car and with my <mortgage level expense> Thule racks <and the class 1 hitch I added> it can easily carry two kayaks, a solo canoe, and two 50 pound e-bikes simultaneously while also being a very loyal car-friend and super comfortable long-road-trip ride.

It’s the little things…

Like how the HUD works so well even with polarized sunglasses. And the big selector knob. We love the big knob! <heh heh… ‘big knob’… heh heh> Or how I’m still surprised by how the tightly stitched parchment leather interior has worn so well after 115,000 miles. I barely even think of its rock solid engine, besides regular maintenance.

With the tires we have on it and just the standard suspension we regularly <and carefully> go down gravel back roads and fire access two-rutters. The small <and not so small> dents and scratches we’ve accumulated over the years make it look kind of badass, IMO. Like the bus in the movie “Slapshot<look it up young’uns>.

On the downside…

The auto-wipers are terrible and the display screen is kind of psycho. Also it’s got a cheap backup camera. I use the trunk a lot and the folding seat hardware **sucks**- *especially* the seat releases. So cheap. Also some cooling system components are not terribly well designed *and* made of plastic when they should have been metal.

That said…

It’s definitely one of my favorite cars of the 20+ I’ve owned since I got my driver’s license <on my 16th b-day>*. I also currently own a ’21 MX-5, and it’s got it own greatness. But the Mazda6 has my heart… because it’s got a lot of soul. I’ll cry like a baby the day that ride goes down for good. I’m really hoping there’s an EREV or PHEV Mazda6 by then. This article is very encouraging on that front!

{*Other faves: ’68 Dodge Dart <my first car, two door, slant six, with the towing package – I still miss that car like a lost family member>, 79 Honda Civic <I remember replacing multiple head gaskets on that one, but I loved it>, 85 Subaru GL sedan <it was a long love… 250,000+ miles worth. But…fuck you Subaru – forever – for that clutch and the damn spare tire location>, and the ‘01 Ford Taurus Wagon <with the big big engine – can’t remember what it was, it was a special order. Ford actually had stitched beautiful leather on that car and it was the best of our family cars. Laugh if you want… but it was way way better than the Toyota Sienna van we got after and the kids loved it like a family pet>}

Rod Millington
Rod Millington
4 months ago

Mazda designers found inspiration in the image of a cheetah, which is ironic because if it had rear-wheel drive, the Mazda 6 is the car Jaguar should have made if they had any balls, instead of the wretchedly dull XE.

Now we just need them to make enough money to make a new Mazda 6 based on the CX60 platform, but RWD (AWD optional so that it actually makes money). That’s the dream.

Joe L
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Joe L
4 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Yep, the platform underpinning the CX-90 and CX-70 was designed such that they could build a smaller version as a sports sedan like the BMW 3 series.

Rod Millington
Rod Millington
4 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

It would be the six cylinder BMW of my dreams. One that’s made in Japan that harkens back to the glory days of the Japanese bubble era of cars.

Jllybn
Jllybn
4 months ago

The touchscreen on my Subaru stopped responding to touch after five years. It cost $1200 to replace and the dealer would not offer any guarantee that it would last another five years. This was a common problem on 2015-2019 Subies. There’s no way I would buy a car that had the lights & wiper controls on a screen. I believe the Tesla also must be started via touchscreen.

When manufacturers went to plastics instead of metal, they created a lot of difficulties in maintaining and restoring older vehicles. Electronics present the problem of cars becoming bricks within ten or fifteen years.

RallyMech
RallyMech
4 months ago
Reply to  Jllybn

Working as intended. Automakers only make money when they sell cars. The sooner they’re mechanically or electronically totaled, the better. Every automaker is jealous of the smart phone replacement interval.

Matteo Bassini
Matteo Bassini
4 months ago

This is stlll a step back from the Mazda 6.

A lot of people’s opinions on the Mazda 6 was made in 2012 during its launch, or its 1st facelift in 2015. By 2018, people were well distracted by the then-new Accord and Camry to bother with the Mazda 6’s second facelift.

That facelift in 2018 however, elevated the interior quality and NVH above its rivals and some journalists started comparing it to the Lexus ES instead.

The Mazda 6 had ventilated seats, this doesnt. The Mazda 6’s rear seats’ arm rest had a button for the heated seats control and a USB port for charging. The 6e doesn’t.

Another point of concern is that since this is a fancy rebadge job, Mazda doesn’t have full control of the supply chain and parts management. 20 years from now, if Changan doesn’t want to supply spare parts, you are SOL. You can still order new parts for a 20 year old Mazda.

Needles Balloon
Needles Balloon
4 months ago
Reply to  Matteo Bassini

The lack of ventilated seats, rear seat heating and rear USB ports is especially strange because they’ve become so ubiquitous in the Chinese market even at the lower end of the market. They seem to have cut corners in weird places like the unnecessarily slow 90kW charging speed (impressively slow for Chinese NMC cells in 2025).

Kevin Cheung
Kevin Cheung
4 months ago
Reply to  Matteo Bassini

Not sure about EU spec cars, but my Chinese spec 6e Hybrid comes with ventilated and heated front seats, while massaging seats are optional extras. There’s one Type-C port on the back of the centre console for the rear passengers, and they get to control the front passenger seat for legroom (even if its occupied ???!).

I heard from Chinese media that Mazda couldn’t really modify the chassis wiring so switchgear pretty much stays identical to the Deepal, both in amount and location. But I haven’t seen a single part in my 6e with a Changan badge; every latch, connector and plastic panel has Mazda stamped on it. Mazda even cranks out 6es and CX-6es from their own plant in Nanjing. As long as Mazda stays in the Chinese market I’m pretty confident in parts availability down the road.

Last edited 4 months ago by Kevin Cheung
ProudLuddite
ProudLuddite
4 months ago

Sorry, looking at the side view this is still one of those new cars that has no wondering if it was designed that way, or was in an accident. Those doors look to be seriously bowed inwards. Don’t know what it looks like in the flesh, but pics aren’t wowing me.

0-60 in 7.8 seconds? My Crosstrek can do that.

Jesse Lee
Jesse Lee
4 months ago

I was going to complain about what appeared to be another mail-slot trunk and lo and behold, it’s actually a proper full rear hatch disguised as a mail slot trunk! Well done!

05LGT
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05LGT
4 months ago

This is one of those infuriating things that does some things amazingly well and some things absolutely deal breakingly bad. If you hold your hand up to block some of the view, amazing lines over here, beautiful appointments over there… but if you lower your hand that snaggletooth misaligned screen warted whole is just abhorrent. Somehow ends up making the good bits seem like the worst of it because they’re so misleading.

Ppnw
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Ppnw
4 months ago

If this allows Mazda to survive, I’m all for it. But I don’t think the value prop is there vs rivals. It’s slower, charges slower, and doesn’t go as far as BYD and Tesla equivalents.

It’s a decent looking car, but not Mazda’s best effort. It’s a bit bloated and generic. I don’t think it hides the Chinese origins too well.

90kw charging on the big battery is a pretty big fail in 2025.

Also, “showstopper” means something so good the show has to stop for applause. I think you meant “dealbreaker” when discussing the haptic buttons.

Last edited 4 months ago by Ppnw
Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
4 months ago

Is the HUD visible while wearing polarized shades?

Reasonable Pushrod
Reasonable Pushrod
4 months ago

If it’s the HUD from the CX-90, the answer is yes. I can see it with my prescription-polarized sunglasses. However, it is a bit more faint.

Nick B.
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Nick B.
4 months ago

Will also chime in and say if it’s the same as the 4th gen Mazda 3 (probably the same as the CX-90), yes. It’s not AS visible, but still easy enough to see.

Mechjaz
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Mechjaz
4 months ago

“the Mazda 6 is the car Jaguar should have made if they had any balls”

This is so, such, very a great line. And I’m still pleased Mazda was the one to make it, y’know? Jag is forever tainted by being shitty upscale Ford to me, and now shitty overcomplicated Land Rover bullshit buddies, with a hearty splash of “Bond-villain reject” ad campaign.

I know the E-Type exists, but how long can you ride a 60-year-old dick?

…I really should have picked a better metaphor.

Mechjaz
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Mechjaz
4 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

For maybe the first time ever, speaking seriously about Jaguar, I had a toy XJ220 that I *adored*. I couldn’t believe, but knew that it was, a real car. A friend in high school even had an XJ8 that made going anywhere with him absurdly classy!

But…

It’s just. What is Jaguar? *Why* is Jaguar?

This is all to say, I agree with you. And I love an underdog, see: Mazda. But jag is the should-be, uh, overdog that executes like neither an underdog nor an overdog but a fumbly, clueless GM. Yet vastly smaller, and still not lovable like an underdog.

Aiko
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Aiko
4 months ago

Crystal soul red and dual rear lights alone do not a Mazda make… that said, I got to drive the 25th anniversary Mazda 6 wagon (I think it was a 2023-25 model) and it felt interestingly dated, laggy in responses, just a generally unimpressive car to drive. Based on looks alone I expected something completely different.
Then the CX60 just felt hideous and bulbous.

When you look at the current EU offering, you see:
– a rebadged Toyota Yaris/Aygo (Mazda 2)
– a bulbous CX60
– the pretty but now dated 3 and CX30
– the pretty but now dated CX50
– a Chinese ev based 6e
– the mx30 and mx30 rev (?!)
– mx5.

A strange mix. Hope Mazda survives and finds their way again, they make such pretty concepts…

I briefly used to own a 2008 CX-7 gas version with the mazdaspeed clutch and manual and man, what a car that was.

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Joe L
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Joe L
4 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Since the 2 is sold in Puerto Rico, it should technically be legal to import to the mainland US.

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
4 months ago

If it was a real Mazda, it would already have rust on it 😛

Dolsh
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Dolsh
4 months ago
Reply to  Dogisbadob

Not true anymore. Mid-00’s sure, but once we got into the 2010’s they really don’t rust.

Jb996
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Jb996
4 months ago
Reply to  Dogisbadob

I have a 2014. Minimal surface rust on some control arms, none on the body.

Xt6wagon
Xt6wagon
4 months ago

Jaguar should be excited….

4moremazdas
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4moremazdas
4 months ago

I love Mazda and was really excited about this article until I realized this was the Chinese EV reskin I’d heard about and essentially already wrote off.

It’s maybe 90% there, but just off enough that I don’t like it. There’s too much mass in the side view and the C-pillar shape/detailing looks weird to me. Same story with the interior, where it should be beautiful based on color and materials, but is really let down by the cluster screen shape and the massive center screen.

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