Good morning! Today on Shitbox Showdown, we’re going to spice things up a bit with a little role-playing. No, don’t worry; there are no schoolgirl costumes involved or anything. I’m just going to give you a use-case scenario for these two vehicles, and you have to decide which is better suited for that use.
First, however, let’s see where you were willing to compromise:
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![Vidframe Min Bottom](https://images-stag.jazelc.com/uploads/theautopian-m2en/vidframe_min_bottom1.png)
Looks like you chose bros over Broughams. In my younger days, I probably would have agreed, but as I get older, I value comfort and originality more and more in cars, so given the choice between these two, call me the Omegaman.
Now then: Imagine, if you will, that you are a member of an international gang of jewel thieves. You’re in the planning stages of a daring, broad-daylight, Hollywood-style heist. Your target: the fabled “Hopkirk Diamond,” a two-hundred-carat stone with a naturally-occurring inclusion in it in the shape of a 1964 Mini shift pattern. The diamond is on display for two days only at the Petersen Auto Museum in Los Angeles, and you’re going to steal it. You have been tasked with finding the perfect getaway car: something inconspicuous, capable of carrying your merry band of six thieves, and most of all, cheap, because they said the getaway car has to come out of your cut, on account of “the whole Dubai thing,” which you still maintain wasn’t your fault, but whatever. You’ve narrowed it down to these two choices…
2002 Ford Expedition – $3,975
Engine/drivetrain: 4.6 liter overhead-cam V8, four-speed automatic, RWD
Location: Arleta, CA
Odometer reading: 198,000 miles
Runs/drives? Yep
Ford’s answer to the Chevy/GMC Suburban was rather late to the party; it didn’t come along until 1997, after the Suburban had been around for several generations. Based on the controversial (around these parts) tenth-generation F-series, the Expedition took Ford’s popular Explorer and super-sized it. With V8 power, three rows of seats, and all sorts of creature comforts, the Expedition became a fixture in mall parking lots in short order.
That ubiquity makes it well-suited to our purposes, especially in a color I’m pretty sure is called Invisible Silver. This Expedition is a bit on the old side now, and might draw some attention in the Rust Belt, but in sunny Los Angeles, there are plenty of twenty-year-old SUVs still running around. Nobody will notice one more idling in a parking spot on Fairfax Avenue on a weekday morning.
It’s also got plenty of room for the whole crew, even Tiny, the three-hundred-pound Samoan demolitions expert, and all the gear you’ll need for your caper. The 4.6 liter Triton V8 isn’t a massive powerhouse, but it should be enough to get you to safety if things go pear-shaped. Normally, you might worry about the longevity of the transmission, but it only has to get you to a storage facility outside of Ontario Airport, so as long as it doesn’t currently slip, you’re probably fine.
You might be able to talk them down a little on the price as well, since this Expedition is only two-wheel-drive. Which means, if you do draw some heat and need to get away, best to keep it on the pavement.
2006 Mazda MPV – $3,999
Engine/drivetrain: 3.0 liter overhead cam V6, five-speed automatic, FWD
Location: Fullerton, CA
Odometer reading: 88,000 miles
Runs/drives? Sure does
If a big SUV doesn’t quite do it for you, how about a minivan? Nobody looks twice at them, they’re a little easier to drive than a big lumbering brute, and the sliding doors make for a quick entry and exit. Mazda’s second-generation MPV might not be the first name you think of when someone says “minivan,” but it’s a good one.
It’s a comfy place to wait and trade sexually-charged banter with Lily, the femme fatale whose job it was to seduce a museum guard to get the codes to the diamond’s display case. (Obviously, she can’t go in; her cover’s blown, so she has to wait in the van with you.) When it comes time to go, a 200 horsepower three-liter V6 will whisk you all away, blending seamlessly and invisibly into LA traffic. Or at least, that’s the hope, but you know how these things turn out.
Really, this van is almost too nice to ditch at the airport, or wreck in a high-speed chase. At only 88,000 miles, it’s got a lot of trips to soccer practice left in it. But maybe it’s tired of its humdrum life, and dreams of going out in a blaze of glory.
[Editor’s Note: I’m torn on if I feel like the Altezza-type taillights (which seem to be stock!) are going to help or hurt. I guess if Lily likes them, it’s fine. – JT]
This particular van has another thing going for it when it comes to hiding in plain sight: mismatched hubcaps left and right. Makes it harder for the cops to positively identify it, when it looks different depending on which direction it’s going.
Obviously, crime doesn’t pay, and we here at the Autopian would never suggest that you come up with an intricate plan to steal a priceless fictional diamond from a famous automotive museum. But if you were already planning to do so, we’re not here to judge. But we do have a couple of recommendations for your getaway car. Which one will it be?
(Image credits: Craigslist sellers)
Both are invisible. Both have enough seats. The Expedition has more range on a full tank, an under stressed engine that will function longer damaged, a construction type that will work after much worse abuse than the minivan can sustain, it’s heavier in case you have to push through, it has more ground clearance, it has thicker rubber between the road and the air, it has more space to spread out in. It’s not even close. Most of us chose the Mazda because it’s the better commuter. If everything goes perfectly it will burn less gas, but if you’re not prepared for pear shaped, you’re not prepared.
First easy one in a while. Mazda without a doubt.
I’m philosophically opposed to gigantic SUVs unless there’s a major overriding need for one, and in this case there isn’t. Mazda all the way.
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“Mass Freedom” sounds like the name of a punk rock song protesting the war in Iraq.
Context- There was a spambot post saying they work from home and are experiencing mass freedom now that they are their own non-public boss. The powers that be have since struck that post down, as they should.
I’m leaning towards the MPV; Sliding doors strike me as useful for getting people in & out in tight out-of-sight backstreets, and give you the option of opening & shutting them while on the move, which may be useful for quick pickup/dropoffs, and are probably more convenient if you need to engage in a highway shootout while on the move. Also, with regard to easily ditched and/or added disguises, I feel you could possibly pass the MPV off as an Uber or similar (it little bit too old, but I doubt most people would notice); the ford looks notably older, so that’s less of an option (might be able to get away with grounds maintenance or something, but that would likely require additional props such as ladders etc. which are harder to hide). Also, if you can pass it off as an uber, no-one will question an uber hanging around near the petersen; a ford expedition may look more suspicious. (that said, Lily might blow the uber cover, as it’d be a little unusual for there to be two people waiting up front in an uber?)
You need both, because for a museum heist you need multiple cars parked along at least 2-3 exit plans, so you can adapt to circumstances. This is a full on breach, so you are going to have the whole team working on it and going stealthy, not a smash and grab where you want a driver sitting in an idling car. If the team really works well together, best to have separate escapes for everyone, a diffusion to give the best chances of escape if you get heat. If not, then have everyone stick together and relax knowing you have options and backup plans. And if you have team members you hate, let them have the decoy car for an easy blow off.
If this is was a quick smash and grab at a jewelry store or what the movies have you do for banks (never go for teller drawers, they are all bugged and never worth it), I’d go minivan. Better to blend in and low enough to hide, also the sliding door makes it sooo much easier to pile everyone in and go. easily 10+ seconds faster than with the SUV. And if you do get heat, you have to quickly get out of eyeline for the cops and ditch the vehicle for a secondary, a chase is always stupid and won’t end well, so the lower physical profile of minivan will help a lot.
I have to apologize. I looked at these images from my office here in Toronto and now both vehicles will have rusted away by end of day.
A few months ago I was a witnessed a heist. Nothing so spectacular as a rare gem, just a bunch of young adult hoodlums stuffing sacs full of booze at my local supermarket and rushing the door. Their choice of getaway vehicle? A Toyota Sienna.
To my eye the sliding doors proved to be a crucial asset as the van was already on the move as the thieves were hopping in. Sliding doors lock when fully open even when in motion. Had the doors been hinged they would have smashed into whomever was climbing in as soon as the car lurched forward and prevented the rest from getting in.
So my choice here? The Mazda! With stolen plates.
Excellent analysis, next time I am organizing a “project” I will look you up…