After nearly a decade of radio silence and grand promises, the new Tesla Roadster is almost here. And my god, is it ever much, much weirder than imagined. For one, it looks completely different to the second-generation Roadster we saw roughly a decade ago. Think less Model 3 and more Lotus Esprit, with a wedgy silhouette and billionaire doors. There’s even a touch of Reventon to the general headlight shape, a bit of Diablo GTR to the front bumper, and a whiff of Testarossa to the haunches. However, what’s around back is even more interesting.
As shown in the absurd launch video, like the McMurtry Speirling the new Tesla Roadster is a fan car, capable of sucking itself down to the pavement even when parked, seemingly with enough force to hold it upside-down at a standstill. The fans work with an active rear wing to manipulate downforce on demand, with a low-drag configuration for high-speed running, a high-downforce configuration for track work, and settings in between. From Tesla:
Our multi-mode fan and ground sealing system acts as a downforce generator, pulling air out from beneath the vehicle. This provides enough suction to hold the vehicle upside down, even when stationary. Powered fans and active wings maximize traction and cornering speeds in all conditions, achieving massive downforce at zero speed. A next-gen steer-by-wire system offers incredible feedback in various road conditions. Activate Track Mode to lower the car and transform the suspension. High downforce or low drag modes can then be used as needed on the track.
The fans aren’t the party piece everyone will be talking about, though, and neither is the inboard suspension. The Roadster features a bevy of cold-gas thrusters aim to aid acceleration and, um, other stuff. The former, resulting in a claimed zero-to-60 mph time of 0.81 seconds. The latter, well…
On Tesla’s livestream, the marque showed the Roadster kickflipping over the entire Tesla range, including the Semi. No ramp, just vertical takeoff. Is that even legal? Actually, don’t answer that. Other stuff you need to know: A 230 MPH top speed, steer-by-wire, and targeted production in 2028. Still, zero-to-60 mph in 0.81 seconds alone would be insane. The quickest production cars on the planet right now take nearly a second longer. And flight? Flight? Really?
If this actually makes it to production as-is, it’s going to be bonkers. Elon Musk, wearing a T-shirt roughly two sizes too tight, just announced he wants to see it jump the Snake River Canyon. Tesla also claims to be targeting an eventual top speed of Mach 0.5, or about 383 MPH. Dozens more miles-per-hour than even the fastest existing machinery, and that’s even being generous and assuming the from-behind-the-balls measurement of a unidirectional run is used. There are plenty of reasons to be skeptical here. Skeptical of legislative approval, of the usefulness of the technology, of whether the Roadster will meet its lofty targets. It’s definitely warranted.
This isn’t the first time Tesla’s made grand promises, and a car with a vertical is perhaps the grandest yet. The marque’s light on information about how it’ll achieve its targets, how much it will cost, EPA range, and all that. But it can do a kickflip. Right. What we can say for now is that the first versions of the car will have the fan system, but will only have rockets at the back. Other axes of thrust allegedly come later, and are invitation-only.
In some ways, it’s like if Tesla took that Lamborghini bit from “Top Gear” literally. Invisible, lasers, can fly, etc. Of course the glass is tinted with copper. Of course Tesla claims the paint on the Roadster is optimized for space. Because that’s a real concern of most customers. Of course the seating position’s fixed like in a Ford GT, and of course it’s steer-by-wire like a Cybertruck. Come to think of it, steer-by-wire might be a benefit at high speeds, just slowing the ratio right down so the private equity guys who’ll buy these won’t immediately enter the nearest hedge backwards.
Even the concept of a rocket-assisted production car is very dumb. Sure, cold-gas thrusters don’t involve combustion and instead rely on pressurized inert gas to generate thrust, but is giving people the option to use them a brilliant idea? I mean, you’d draw some extraordinarily derisive gestures if you attempted to use them at the lights. Or in the McDonald’s drive-thru. And don’t get me started on thrusters beneath the car. That sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen, a real-life version of the vertical takedown from the “Burnout” franchise if used irresponsibly. Come to think of it, what would using it responsibly look like? Racetracks would generally frown upon it, airfields might not be happy, how many places in the world will give express permission to launch a Tesla Roadster straight up into the air?
However, one thing’s undeniable: This is one of the craziest things I’ve ever seen. It leaves the world with so many more questions than answers right now, and it’ll be fun seeing where some of those answers lead. Especially because what we all saw basically redlines the bullshitometer. What an absolutely unhinged thing. You can certainly accuse the new Tesla Roadster of a lot, but ‘being boring’ isn’t on the list. Either we’re looking at the next Veyron or the next piece of vaporware. Only one way to find out, right?
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“This isn’t the first time Tesla’s made grand promises”
Understatement of the century.
It’s not going to do anything he promised, but it looks cool as hell.
I don’t believe a shart’s worth of it. Why in god’s name would you “optimize the paint for space” when you live on a planet with an atmosphere? Shouldn’t you optimize for, I dunno, atmosphere? At 383mph, it would need solid wheels or funny car tires that are huge and horrible for anything but drag strip runs. How are you going to control a flying car? Where does the waste air from the fans go (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaparral_2J)? How do you regulate or insure something with apparent unhindered access to low airspace? What happens to the pressure vessels for gas in a collision or fire?
The only nearly, potentially truthful thing in this clown turd sandwich is that it’s two years out. It – as fancifully described here – will always be two years out. There may even be a Tesla call the Roadster that will exist in 2-3 years, but this device will always be two years out.
As for the paint, no one needed the Cybertruck to be bulletproof, but he did it anyway.
To be fair, with as much as people seem to hate the Cybertruck, being bulletproof might actually be useful…
In all seriousness, though, there are real-world scenarios where a bulletproof car could be beneficial. Most people probably will never need a bulletproof vehicle, but a few people will.
There are zero real-world scenarios where a terrestrial vehicle needs paint optimized for space.
Woah hold on here clearly there’s been a misunderstanding, the paint is optimized for Space, not space.
Clearly Musk reads the Autopian comment section and decided to make a paint just for me.
And you chose silver?!
Okay but “optimized for space” doesn’t magically mean “better.”
Space is a vacuum, for one, and depending on whether you’re inside or outside of the Van Allen radiation belts (e.g., comparatively protected), the heliopause (less protected and arguably the limit of human exploration at this time), or deep interstellar space (good luck). Space is high in radiation but low in corrosives, and Earth is low in radiation but high in corrosives (this is an arbitrary single axis of distinction and not the only thing to consider, but is intended to illustrate that what you’re looking for in paints for each application are very different things). Why do I care about having space optimized paint when it doesn’t rain in space, but it does on Earth where I actually use the vehicle?
If it’s false then it’s just a bad application of rule-of-cool, if it’s true then it’s a poor engineering choice.
My first thought was the thermal dynamics and ability to not shatter/flake at 2.7K (~ -455F for the no nerds allowed folks; -270.5C for the other nerds). I guess his plan is to launch another one into space for childhood dreams part deux.
It doesn’t mean better and is pointless, but he has done things like this before.
Truly, instead of space paint, how about some interesting colors for a change.
If you actually need a bulletproof vehicle, the CT won’t suffice. It’s somewhere in the B1-B2 range* and you won’t find a real security car with protection levels that low even at the bottom end. It will also be useless against the AR-15 that’s ever popular with mass murderers. Could be more helpful than an average car in a potential car jacking scenario where you’re ensconced in the car and they only have a lower powered hand gun, but who’s looking to jack a CT?
*Per reports, no official testing.
Umm, no, he didn’t.
Well he made the glass strong enough people can’t brake it. Which really sucks if you get in an accident in a Cybertruck and you need to be rescued.
1.4-1.8mm of stainless ain’t exactly rolled homogenous armor.
See my response above.
Did he? Or did he lie as always? The window couldn’t even handle a dude gently tossing a steel sphere at it. He also said it could cross rivers and float, but I’ve seen evidence of it not being able to handle large puddles. Please stop believing anything he says about… anything, really.
Oh! And car washes.
Goddamn. I hate that this is one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen.
The bot farms are back online, so expect to read / hear nothing but roadster stories for the next month.
The lies aren’t even interesting anymore.
And yet The Autopian runs them
Disclaimer: Professional self driver, closed course. Do not attempt.
I’m waiting for a David Leisure-type guy to show up in the commercials as the Tesla version of Joe Isuzu.
Oh, wait a second…
Yuck. What a bunch of dumb middle schooler nonsense in an unoriginal looking package with a grab of whatever stuff other companies were doing that they thought made them cool to have, too, and SBW which automatically cues up the taste of bile.
In my lifetime a man became the richest person on earth by continually, verifiably, intensely bullshitting people. Another one became President of the United States.
What a time to be alive!
Hmmm, not sure why I’m ‘liking’ this comment, but it’s true… wow
It has a roof. How is it a roadster? I think that’s just the tip of the falsehood iceberg…
We have 5 door SUV ‘coupes.’
Car words are meaningless.
Porsche Taycan Turbo anyone?
I’ll grant that one exception because it’s hilarious and an uncommon display of humor out of Germany.
I totally understand why so many people have feelings about Musk, and anything he does or touches. I’m not a fan either, so don’t come at me.
But I am seeing the most standoffish and dismissive comments by people about this, and I’m sorry.
It’s a freaking CAR that can SIT UPSIDE DOWN, went 0-60 faster than anything this side of a top fuel dragster or funny car, and it FLEW.
It’s a car.
And it did that shit.
Are we really that jaded, or are we just afraid of publicly saying something musk did actually was really friggin wild.
I’m ready for whatever onslaught of comments might or might not come my way here, and again, I understand. Everyone has a reason to hate musk.
But dude. We’re seeing something with our own eyes for the first time that I think we maybe never expected to see.
I can’t shake that. I think it’s mind blowing, and I think a lot of very talented people have created something here the world has never seen.
I don’t actually believe it did the things they claim. Remember, they are an AI company too. Even Hollywood can pull of convicing videos of things that appear to defy physics. If it’s real, then I’ll happily eat my words, but I need more than this to believe it.
Also, I think Tesla makes some compelling vehicles. Dislike Musk, and don’t understand the company’s valuation, but they do make some good cars.
Right, like 2 things can be true.
And the whole thing can be false.
But duuuuuuuude, I definitely want to believe it’s all real. Just as a statement of what people can make happen. If it’s real, and this thing actually comes out, I mean we have a very large leap that’s been made in American engineering.
Is it really?
I feel like a fan car with rockets has been within engineering’s reach for a while.
Maybe it doesn’t exist for the same reason a rocket crock pot doesn’t exist.
Exactly. The reasons we don’t have flying cars is not because we don’t know how to make things fly. The Brabham fan car was outlawed (in part) because of all the things it kicked up, what about that?
In the 80s the government shut down the guy with the flying car, and the reasoning was something like “people can’t drive on roads, no way in hell they can handle flying cars”
Oh surely, some braindead billionaire will be leaping this thing ON TO a crowd of onlookers while leaving Cars & Coffee
I see all the time in documentaries like Star Wars where people stand right next to a space ship taking off vertically and just get a slight breeze. What’s the problem here?
He won’t need to address any of that.
He obviously cannot sell a vehicle that intentionally loses contact with the roadway. No insurance company would cover that.
What’s the charge for deploying this on a public roadway? If you can be put through the ringer for doing a wheelie and taking one tire off the pavement, the penalty for all four tires going airborn would be quite severe.
I feel like this whole stunt was just another stall tactic. Elon’s going to whine they need to start over again because the government is making him remove features.
A fan car needs to pull a vacuum (at least significant negative pressure) for that kind of effect. That means skirts in constant contact with the road surface – illegal in most places with actual vehicle laws.
Yeah, I’ve been to the circus and seen better freak shows. Even if I believed it, that’s all stupid and useless stuff. Most performance cars today are just a stupid and useless collection of pointless numbers made for sad braggarts with money, but this is even worse—this has a drivetrain with no personality and steer-by-wire is as dumb a feature as anyone can have in a car for safety while being antithetical to someone who enjoys driving as it removes all feel and connection. This is video game garbage, a car for people who’d rather have simulated experiences than do the real thing.
I mean, yeah, but this thing existing doesn’t erase the joy of a buzzy little Miata on a backroad. Put this in the category of a veyron back when they came out. It’ll never be for me, I’ll probably never see one in person, let alone drive one, still kinda pumped that it exists.
This whole display was set up for me to be dazzled, but I am decidedly not. I also hate the Veyron and for some of the same reasons I hate this. These things are emblematic of our move/being pushed away from real experiences that bring joy, build character, connections to the world around us and others, and generate inner strength to the very shallow appearance of being cool through meritless tech purveyed by people who lack nearly all positive attributes and depth. I’m not impressed by endless money being thrown at a bad idea until it works to be just another piece of long-logistics-train junk for people with money to show off. I’d like to see any of these clowns solve a real problem rather than creating them or exacerbating existing ones or, since we’re talking about Tesla, at least make a more affordable EV that appeals to the market. Then I might be impressed.
What do you consider a real problem?
We could be here for days, but off the top of my head (and this includes many things that Big Tech is largely responsible for or involved in): massive wealth inequality, corporate control of government, mass surveillance, erosion of democracy, environmental degradation, destruction of education and other institutions that once allowed for unprecedented egalitarian prosperity, forced obsolescence, a disposable rental economy where nothing is owned and repairs are illegal, mega corp control of the media, restriction and wussification of the population under the guise of safety, massive scale AI IP theft and devaluation of creativity, tech-driven loss of community and values replaced by false individualism and the elevation of vapid and petty cluster B personality characteristics, chemical-laden foods that are low in nutrients and cause sickness so that we can lead in to the next one on the list, a medical industry and prisons whose for-profit nature result in them having a strong interest that works in opposition to their ostensible community-focused goals, rise of fascist thinking and action, an incurious and proudly ignorant class of nepo morons and parasites holding power, and the general loss of color and interesting details for bland minimalism to conclude this with some levity.
If I could like this 50 times, I would.
I can’t believe someone finally asked me that question! Anybody who knows me IRL knows better (even when they agree with me). I almost didn’t know what to do, I was so excited.
So what products or services have you bought that don’t contribute to said problems? Or are there products and services that disincentivize those?
While this has the smell of a common bad faith argument and suspect you might have just come back on line after a brief outage due to Ukrainian drones, I’ll indulge it. I avoid their goods and services as often as practical, though they’ve made them so necessary, ubiquitous, and pervasive that it’s difficult to fully remove them from my life. Beyond that, I’m not a f’n billionaire, so I don’t have a lot of options—I can’t afford to buy politicians or pay for a media blitz or build an underground network of parasite exterminators. I donate what I can to known legit environmental causes and hope I can adapt to the humidity of the tropics to retire there and help hands-on. It’s not much, but it still seems like a lot more useful than trolling comments for the sake of a creepy billionaire dork who doesn’t know I exist.
I think a lot of people have reasonable skepticism for anything Elon claims. He has made many fantastic claims about his future vehicles. Some ended up being true. Most did not.
I can only speak for myself, but I think most of the “amazing” things this car can do are just parlor tricks (assuming they actually happened in reality). They are neat, but I’m not sure they do anything to make the car better at being a car. Plus, many of these “features” are unlikely to make it into the production model.
I agree with your sentiment that “Elon bad” is not helpful, though. For me, part of my negative response to this car is that I genuinely admire many products made by Elon’s companies. I am a fan of the mainstream Tesla vehicles (S, 3, Y, and X) as well as the original Roadster. I think the Supercharger network is one of the more underrated achievements in recent history. I also think it is unbelievably impressive SpaceX is sending rockets into space; a company routinely launching people and cargo into space was the realm of science fiction not even 10 years ago.
As for this vehicle, though, I’m struggling to see how any of the “amazing” things it can do are useful. I can’t help but think that the time and resources expended to create this vehicle could have gone to better use.
Yeah, that’s a rabbit hole there. There’s kids out there that don’t have food every day, and we’re dumping trillions of dollars into the development of one fighter jet that might never actually do the job it was designed for. We make a lot of things that aren’t useful, and throw a lot of resources to things that could have gone to better use.
That’ll never stop, though. Might as well keep sending some of my extra money to charity water and St Jude, and marvel at the show.
I’m not going down the rabbit hole of “Elon should have given his money to charity.” I don’t have a problem with Elon wasting resources per se.
However, I am saying that he could have used this money to build a car that is actually something people will want to buy. If nothing else, Tesla is a publicly traded company. Wasting this many resources on a show car with silly gimmicks seems problematic.
I have higher expectations for a product made by Elon because he has proven he can build cool stuff, but I would still be critical of this car if it were released by Ford or Toyota. I think it is silly.
It is fine if you think it is cool or impressive. We can like different things.
You may argue about how a fighter jet gets used, but any jet is designed to be the best machine for it’s intended mission and purpose. It is a tool sought by governments and militaries around the world, and used every day somewhere (unfortunately!) for it’s intended purpose. (Diplomacy by other means is the return on investment for the government.)
A company building normal cars that people will buy provides an ROI to the company.
A “flying” “roadster” that won’t be legal to use anywhere does not serve any purpose, and is not useful to do any job. It is a fancy toy for rich people to stroke their middle-school aged egos. This will not make back the investment money spent on it, and as such, it is a waste of resources, and shareholders should be pissed, if they weren’t subservient to Musk.
The only argument for “useless” investments is in the same category as art. A painting, sculpture, etc. may be expensive and serve no practicle purpose, but it can be inspiring, illuminating, or thought provoking, thereby providing something to society.
But generally, companies with shareholders do not spend billions on vanity arts and crafts projects.
You’re talking about it. What’s the purpose of a halo vehicle?
“There’s no such thing as bad publicity.” eh?
Widely (incorrectly) attributed to P.T. Barnum.
Other very relevant quote incorrectly attributed to P.T. Barnum:
“There’s a sucker born every minute.”
Tesla Roadster, the Cardiff Giant of our times.
You put them in the wrong order – 12 year old Elon wants you to read them as S3XY.
You guys have never seen Knight Rider? It didn’t seem useful to you while watching it?
I guess it’s different and not something anyone has achieved but these all seem kinda pointless, they are gimmicks at best. It can hover but you could also get a Robinson R22. Nothing shown really showcases how good of a car it will be other than a quick acceleration time. I do feel like most of the hypercars, highest end Ferraris and McLarens, even the Corvette ZR1X have kinda lost the plot. They are numbers generating machines but it seems like if they are actually good to drive is never mentioned or secondary to what the car is, and I suppose it doesn’t matter as most of us will never drive any of these anyway let alone multiples of them to actually be able to compare them so it’s all just for bragging rights. The fact that this can fly to me holds an equal amount of interest to me as the fact that a Lemans protype can lap the Nurburgring faster than a Mustang. It’s interesting, but also kind of raises the question tho what end?
Unlike the economy, some of that tech does trickle down to normal cars eventually. Other than that, I agree!
I want to believe. Ha. Hey, at the end of the day, it might wind up being AI or a hoax. I mean, it was a live event, and it’s not like Elon hasn’t had live events where it did not go according to plan. But, at the end of the day, I think there’s value in trying new things. Does it have to be for everyone? Of course not. How many car companies have halo cars for everyone?? That’s just… not a standard.
That ability to plant itself to the road, though? I do see how that has applications going forward. We measure downforce on performance cars all the time. We have active aerodynamics for a reason.
I’m not worried about who’s behind it. I can enjoy a movie regardless of the actors/actresses in it. I can get excited about cool engineering stuff regardless of who came up with it.
I like what I saw, I hope it’s real, and I would be interested in seeing how it is applied to driving dynamics in the future.
I majored in physics a very long time ago. I’m too lazy to pencil out any calculations, but I don’t see how they could possibly pack a battery big enough for significant range (which will also weigh a ton, probably literally), and the drive motors, and the suction fans and active suspension tech, AND compressors, AND storage tanks, AAANNNNDDDD rocket nozzles into that car shaped volume.
That’s weight, weight, and more weight.
Physics requires that for every action there’s an equal and opposite reaction. Force = mass x acceleration. So for a very heavy car to go up slowly, either an equal mass of air must go down slowly, or a lesser mass of air must go down very (VERY) fast.
So that’s either very large or very high pressure air tanks. And for the effect to last more than a second, even more very larger bigly huge tanks.
Rockets achieve their high speed / pressure thrust through a chemical reaction that releases stored energy. An air tank just poofs vigorously.
Then of course to recharge the tanks you’ve got to run a compressor. That’s going to take a while and suck your battery down. And those compressed air tanks are going to get really hot and need cooling.
TLDR: I can *maybe* believe a cold gas thruster system that can give the car a one second acceleration boost… and then take minutes to recharge. But I call balderdash on a lift system that can do anything more than a brief hop.
Maybe the compressors are external or only can run whilst charging.
If a little tire air compressor is pulling 100 watts. a high pressure compressor, no way.
These are exactly my sentimonies.
I might pencil the numbers out at some point. We would need an estimation for nozzle throat size.
Also an issue you didn’t list: after cooling those (stated) 5000-10000psi tanks, exiting it’s going to be close to liquid phase change.
Reminds me of the personal “jet pack” that appeared in some old James Bond and other movies and TV shows in the 60s. Did it actually work? Yes, in a way. Briefly, enough to hover and move about a bit to demonstrate the concept, and then it quickly exhausted its limited fuel supply. The scenes in the movies were all done with practical effects and matte work, edited together to display flight times and altitudes far greater than the real thing was capable of.
That’s what I expect we’ve been shown. A fun display under controlled circumstances, with tech that “works” to a point, but not to the extent given by the stage illusion. Whatever mechanicals are in that car were sufficient for the show, but not realistically capable of being packaged into a manufactured, roadgoing car.
I don’t even want to speculate on the possibilities of sophisticated modern stage illusion techniques, now potentially augmented by AI image wizardry.
In short, it’s a fun show. We know Elon is, at best, a showman who can put on a great, attention-grabbing presentation. (That’s as kind and polite as I can possibly be, and I still think I threw up in my mouth a little…) The (often-delayed) reality that follows can be quite anticlimactic, to say the least.
(Also, a fixed-roof car is not a roadster, dammit!)
This post made me think of the flying backpack thing. To lift ~150lb person the thing appears to be twice the size of the passenger.
edit: oops I just repeated what UnseenCat said.
I was wondering about this weight vs thrust needed thing (though I am far from a physics major) it seems like even if they did figure it out here (big IF) I don’t see how that scales to having any useful range.
We didn’t see shit with our own eyes. We saw a video Tesla produced for a Tesla event shown on their sister company social media site with a built in AI engine. If Musk came out in a week and said that this was actually a demonstration of the power of Grok (to pump SpaceX stock prices being unsaid) because he only had to type 6 words into Twitter to make the video I wouldn’t be remotely surprised.
Do you believe that video is real? I don’t.
Made by a maniac who’s a known liar that runs an AI company. My man, this guy is one of the reasons you can’t trust any video footage anymore and you’re praising some drug-fueled video of a non-existent car thing flying through the air?
I’d like a little bit of whatever sauce you’re drinking. Mind sharing a sip?
Because none of that is realistic or safe or feasible. I’ll be shocked if any of those ‘features’ get approved legally for a road car. It will cause all manner of problems if it was released to the public as demonstrated.
Yes, I’m really that jaded.
It is wild, but it’s also stupid. Both can be true. Spending all that time, money and effort to make a car that can perform non-car feats that don’t actually have any useful real world application is the equivalent to designing a pillow that also doubles as a MIG welder.
No, we’re not. This was already demonstrated last year by a company with boatloads of less baggage. The McMurtry blows the Tesla “Roadster” out of the water.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6LYcgaQ46c
Man, I don’t even know what’s real anymore.
I do know that roadsters usually don’t have roofs. I don’t get the name of this thing at all. Rear end is Testarossa ish, which is cool.
Targeted production 2038 my butt. 2058 more likely and lots of us will be dead. Vaporware
Is it March 32nd already?
I genuinely can’t tell if this is real or satire.
I’m not sure if this car can jump Snake River Canyon or not, but Tesla has at least proven it can jump the shark.
383 miles an hour? Is that thing aerodynamic enough to do that without shredding itself?
It will reach 383 miles per hour while failing to jump Snake River Canyon.
Okay, sure. Probably an AI generated demo, but whatever. I’ll believe it when I see it in real life. Also, targeted production in 2028? I thought they announced it in 2017. Also, as others have rightly said, not a roadster.
Tesla unveiling the latest car that 8 year olds won’t be able to shut up about.
The worst part about Tesla doing something is always the people who seem to have a direct soul mate connection with the company for no justifiable reason.
something something Venn diagram something incels something
How much for the Knight Rider front light bar option?
I want to see a custom car builder turn it into the Jetsons car.
Why Elon Musk can walk as a free man on that stage and show off his latest vaporware POS and isn’t locked up in prison for his contribution to the destruction of the democracy in the United States and literally doing the Hitler salute on stage live on camera will always be the world’s biggest mystery. Fuck Musk and fuck Tesla.
And what laws did he break to justify prison? Being an asshole isn’t illegal.
Yet
Securities fraud, for one.
Whatever DOGE did, including stealing citizens’ data and other secrets for personal gain, and probably breaking all kinds of labor laws, not to mention the massive corruption he’s almost certainly involved in but too powerful to be prosecuted for.
All allegedly, of course.
Accessing classified material without clearance for one.
You’re insane.
Not only do I like your message, I like your username. The Gumpert Apollo never gets enough attention in my book.
Deeply underrated car! Last time I even thought of one was what, Forza Motorsport 4?
“That’s not flying! It’s falling, with style.”
Does anyone actually believe a word that this douche bag (Elon) says? ????
Also distinctly not a roadster but a coupe, and it looks like the abandoned Honda 0 saloon. Insane as a tech demo, will never actually fly or flip in production guise for legal reasons, and will probably be delivered in 2030, but cool tech demo.
It reminds me of an 80s T.V. show car. Maybe it will be in production by the 2080s.
I disagree. Vaporware is boring. Empty promises are boring. Show me a real car I can really drive.
So the roadster’s… not a roadster anymore? Neat publicity stunt show I guess, wake me up when it’s real.
So it can kickflip? Sweet, it can join the Chevy Sonic in the ‘Cars That Have Done A Kickflip’ club!
Suzuki did the sidekick first.