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Which Rear-Engined Rarity Is Your Pick? 1959 Fiat 600 vs 1973 VW Thing

Sbsd 3 20 2026

Happy Friday! Today, instead of the typical Friday runoff, we’re going to look at a new pair of cars, because the week’s contenders just don’t really go together, and I don’t feel like looking back.

We really should look back as far as yesterday, however, just to declare a winner. We looked at two Nissan Sentras that were both set up as race cars, and most of you didn’t like either one of them, it seems. Comment and vote totals were both low, which is a pretty good indication that excitement was low as well.

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The final vote was really close, with the ’82 hatchback with some history behind it taking a narrow win. I think that’s the way I’d go as well, assuming I could title and register it for the street. I don’t really have much interest in race cars either, but that Sentra looks surprisingly cool in its stickers and race numbers. And big round driving lights look good on just about any car.

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Earlier in the week, you all legitimately surprised me. I showed you a reasonably cheap, reasonably solid, running and driving VW Type 3 Squareback, and it lost. Granted, it lost to a Saab, a marque which remains undefeated, but still, I was surprised. My plan was to pit it against the rest of the week’s losing cars in a second-chance runoff, but I just don’t feel like writing about the same cars over again. So I’ll give you air-cooled VW enthusiasts something new to vote for, and I’ve got an adorable little Italian jellybean for everyone else. Let’s check them out.

1959 Fiat 600 – $5,100

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Image: Craigslist seller

Engine/drivetrain: 767 cubic centimeter OHV inline 4, four-speed manual, RWD

Location: Yorba Linda, CA

Odometer reading: 14,000 miles

Operational status: Not running, but engine turns over by hand

It’s funny just how insulated car markets around the world are, or were, before the modern era. Nearly five million Fiat 600s rolled out of various factories around the world over the course of three decades, and I think I’ve seen maybe two in person. But I bet the same holds true for the average Italian enthusiast and the Chevy Impala. I’m sure there are a few Impalas floating around Italy, but they have to be as rare and special a sight as this little Fiat is in the US.

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Like so many other 1950s European small cars, Renaults and Volkswagens among them, the Fiat 600 is rear-engined and rear-wheel-drive. The standard engine displaces 633 cc, but if I’m understanding right, this one has a larger 767 cc engine from a later 600D. It doesn’t run at the moment, but it does turn freely, so it should be able to be revived. One worrying thing is that there is no cap on the radiator; hopefully it isn’t too corroded inside. The seller seems to know a lot about these cars, and has a stockpile of parts, so they should be able to provide some help getting it going again.

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Open this 600’s rear-hinged “suicide door,” and you’re faced with an interior badly in need of restoration. The seats originally had some really cool plaid fabric, but it’s completely worn out. The door panels are missing, as is the lower cushion for the rear seat. I would imagine the soft top needs replacing, too. It can all be fixed up, but you’ve got your work cut out for you if you want to properly restore it. You could also install some other seats, and make your own door cards, of course.

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Image: Craigslist seller

The body is in good shape, though. It looks like it’s about as rust-free as an old Fiat gets. The taillight lenses are missing, but I would imagine you can get them from somewhere. There are some other bits of trim missing as well, but it won’t stop you from having fun with the car once you get it running.

1973 Volkswagen Thing – $7,200

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Image: Craigslist seller

Engine/drivetrain: 1.6-liter OHV flat 4, four-speed manual, RWD

Location: Florence, AZ

Odometer reading: Looks like 96,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives well

Looking at a typical Jeep Wrangler in a parking lot today, with its colorful paint and its row of rubber duckies on the dashboard, you’d never know its roots were a strictly untilitarian, no-nonsense miliraty vehicle. Likewise, you’d never know from looking at this car that it started out as a slapped-together stopgap military vehicle for the West German army. In most of the world, it was known as the Type 181, but for two glorious years, it was sold in the US as the Thing.

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Image: Craigslist seller

Mechanically, the Type 181 is more or less a Beetle. It uses the same flat-four engine, and the same torsion bar suspension. I honestly don’t know these engines well enough to tell exactly what this one is, or how much of it is stock, but I’m sure someone will provide all the details in the comments. What I can tell you is that the seller says it runs and drives fine, and that the four-speed transmission shifts smoothly. That’s a pretty good start.

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The interior of a Thing makes a modern Jeep look like a Rolls-Royce: steel door panels and dash, vinyl seats, and rubber floor mats. There’s no heater, no instrumentation apart from a speedometer with a fuel gauge in it, and no sound deadening. Luckily this one has a whole rear deck full of speakers to provide a soundtrack besides the VW flat-four burble. Seriously, do you actually need four 6x9s and a couple of tweeters for a car this size? Probably not, but it’s got ’em.

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Image: Craigslist seller

Outside, it’s mostly original, and pretty rough. It has a little rust, and a few mismatched body panels. The seller also has a pair of orange front fenders in good condition that go along with it, which is good, because the fenders on it are bad. There is some good news: it has spectacular aftermarket wheels on it with new tires, and the top is fairly new too.

Good condition examples of either of these cars go for big money. And scruffy examples like these don’t come up very often. Either one of these is a good opportunity for the right person – probably not to restore, but to experience. A faded, rusty example of a car you’ve always wanted is still an opportunity to own one. Why let the Pebble Beach crowd have all the fun?

 

 

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Geekycop .
Geekycop .
1 hour ago

The thing would be fun but the provenance of it being in Florence is giving me flashbacks so I’ll go fiat. I was in florence for 4 months back in 2003, and in that time I got shot at three times, mugged once, and the town had a flash flood. The stupid little chevy prism I was driving almost got washed into the riverbed in the flood. It was all a bit of a shock for a kid from the forest in Washington.

Frank C.
Frank C.
33 minutes ago
Reply to  Geekycop .

Were you dealing drugs or part of an international crime syndicate? Never had an issue in Florence. Nothing. Nada.

M SV
M SV
1 hour ago

Always wanted a thing. They are either too rusty or too expensive. That one might be both but why not.

Bleeder
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Bleeder
2 hours ago

I’ve always wanted to Baja a Thing and this one seems like the perfect candidate!

Lori Hille
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Lori Hille
2 hours ago

Neither, but the Fiat is just too crusty. At least the Thing has been aired out.

I don't hate manual transmissions
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I don't hate manual transmissions
2 hours ago

I have a thing for the Thing. But here’s the thing – that Thing’s stance is far from perfect, and I always get a little nervous when people do that sort of thing to a vehicle, as you never know what else they’ve mucked up.

I still can’t believe I voted for the Fiat, but the VeeDub (especially at that price and with that many rust spots) screams “stay away if you know what’s good for you”.

Baja_Engineer
Baja_Engineer
2 hours ago

The seller seems to know a lot about these cars, and has a stockpile of parts, so they should be able to provide some help getting it going again.

He might know a lot about these, which I don’t, but I know this particular 600 needs a TON and a well sorted 600 can be had for under $10K in running, good looking condition. This is not a one-off, there were more around that price range https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-seat-600-d/

I’ve got a Thing for air cooled, 4dr, drop top vehicles, and the Fiat’s condition made my choice much easier.

It's Pronounced Porch-ah
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It's Pronounced Porch-ah
2 hours ago

That Fiat is adorable, and will bring smiles to a new owner, and everyone that sees it on the road. The rust on the Thing and the fact that it was a Michigan car is a scary combination and I am worried its has more in common with the Flinstones car than a Beetle.

Give me the not-a-Jolly, but still so jolly, Fiat.

Data
Data
2 hours ago

The owner of a local comic shop located in Morehead City, N.C. in the 80’s had a white Thing with vanity plates that read ?SHOTJFK. To the best of my recollection, it is the only one I have ever seen in person. Since I have no interest in the Fiat, I’m going with the VW for my fake Internet money today, though it may crumble away into a pile of rust tomorrow.

Scoutdude
Scoutdude
2 hours ago

The Thing is definitely the one for me, however the wheels, tires and stance are far and away the worst part about it. Getting it back to stock height or even lifted would be job #1 followed by some new tires and wheels. The Thing is pretty the only VW I’d ever consider owning besides a classic Beetle based Dune Buggy. The reason for all the speakers is that it is an open vehicle so you can hear it with the top down, especially in something so un-aero.

Borton
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Borton
3 hours ago

I agree with others who have said the prices are on the high side for both given the condition. I think either would be a fun project. Italian cars have a place in my heart though, so the Fiat gets my vote.

Frank C.
Frank C.
3 hours ago

Turn the plain Fiat into a Abarth 695 clone and go racing. It’s a giant killer.

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
3 hours ago

I like the VW Thing more than I should, so that’s how I voted. However, both are overpriced for the condition.

Last edited 3 hours ago by Dogisbadob
Squirrelmaster
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Squirrelmaster
3 hours ago

Tough choice. Both seem priced on the aggressive side for their current conditions. The Thing would be my gut choice, as I have always wanted one, but the questionable mods on it devalue it in my eyes. Then again, the Fiat doesn’t run and the inside is nasty, plus while I like the look of the 600 I have no desire to own one. Mmm. I guess the VW gets my reluctant vote.

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
3 hours ago

For that much money I should be able to pick up a slightly used Altima….

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
3 hours ago

As mentioned, if the Fiat was a Jolly this would’ve been a fair fight, but the Thing is … the winner!

Cloud Shouter
Cloud Shouter
3 hours ago

How does a Thing get bottom rust in Arizona?

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
3 hours ago
Reply to  Cloud Shouter

See where it’s parked? It’s a river a couple times a year.

A. Barth
A. Barth
3 hours ago
Reply to  Cloud Shouter

From the seller’s description:

Wears its original decal from McAllister VW in Mt. Clemens MI.”

It wasn’t always an Arizona car.

Cloud Shouter
Cloud Shouter
1 hour ago
Reply to  A. Barth

That explains it.

Frank C.
Frank C.
3 hours ago
Reply to  Cloud Shouter

It’s a VW.

Pneumatic Tool
Pneumatic Tool
3 hours ago

really wanted to like the Thing, mainly because I had a friend who had a yellow one and I always dug it. Don’t mind the rough condition, adds to the character, but what I don’t like is the stancing. I’ll take the friendly little fiat, with the knowledge that it will be more about getting it running than actually running it.

Knowonelse
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Knowonelse
3 hours ago

As much of a air-cooled VW fan I am, a lowered Thing is an immediate NO. Lowering a Thing just ruins the utiltiy factor, and there are good ways to lower and many bad ways to do it. Since the focus of this seller is on the sound system, I suspect little thought was given to properly lower it. So, hell no. Besides, I also really want a Fiat 600 too.

A. Barth
A. Barth
3 hours ago

So I’ll give you air-cooled VW enthusiasts something new to vote for, and I’ve got an adorable little Italian jellybean for everyone else

Some of us are in the overlapping area of that Venn diagram 🙂

But today’s choice: Fiat, please!

The VW needs far too much work for that asking price. Based on the seller’s description of a sticker, it appears to have been a Michigan car before it got to Arizona; the floor pans and heater channels likely look worse than the doors.

The Fiat would be a fun little project, and I found an eBay seller in Germany who has both taillight lenses available for a reasonable price.

Space
Space
3 hours ago

Pretty sure there’s a guy that works for your website that knows about air cooled engines. I bet he could tell. You exactly what that thing runs on.

Nycbjr
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Nycbjr
3 hours ago
Reply to  Space

that was my thought! was waiting for the “editor insert” do they even do this still?

Elhigh
Elhigh
3 hours ago

Oh, this is a tough call! The Fiat is an inviting oddity but when push comes to shove, the VW is the far more readily maintainable project.

Toecutter
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Toecutter
3 hours ago

That Fiat is begging for a Hayabusa swap.

*Jason*
*Jason*
3 hours ago

There is a lot of wishful thinking in that Fiat description. Yah, I’m sure the guy that unloaded his stalled project will love to help you source things and figure out how to get it running again. And you will source all those rare missing parts – not a problem.

The reality is neither. Both are massively overpriced for the condition but at least the Thing runs. Lot of work to be done fixing the botched modifications though.

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
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The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
3 hours ago
Reply to  *Jason*

Both are massively overpriced for the condition

Genuine question – what do you think is a fair price for this Thing? It is not a steal at $7200, but it is hard to find one in running but ugly condition at any price. Drivable 20 footers appear to sell for $6k to $10k on BaT, so $7200 can’t be too far off.

*Jason*
*Jason*
1 hour ago

$3,500 to $4,000. I would personally rather start fresh with a barn find and do it myself than go though someone else’s hacked up project.

Also, BaT is where one goes to find overpriced cars.

A 76 in much better condition went for $8k on eBay yesterday. Fresh paint, new interior, rebuilt engine…

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
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The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
50 minutes ago
Reply to  *Jason*

I disagree that BaT is always overpriced. Average prices are high (and some are just plain crazy), but the lower priced sales of a particular model probably reasonably approximate market value. The cheapest Thing sold on BaT was $6,500. It is nicer than this car, but not by much. I don’t think $7,200 is a great deal for this car, but $5500 probably is (assuming there aren’t major hidden problems). I’m not looking at is as a project car, though.

Do you have a link to the ’76 that sold on ebay?

Ossipon
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Ossipon
3 hours ago

This is not fair. Suicide by rust or by driving. The old pics of a 600 in a wreck are not pretty. You might as well walk on an Interstate highway and hope you are not hit.
On the other hand, the 181 is not a joy either. I am still wondering is that an aftermarket Zenith or Solex installed for a carb. You might as well replace the doors too. The edge rust is always a royal pain to restore.
Given the choice, I will choose the 181 as I have owned almost every other model VW has sold. Just don’t ask me about my experience owning a Quantum or my Jetta TD (NOT TDI)

Angry Bob
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Angry Bob
3 hours ago
Reply to  Ossipon

Either is a death trap. The only way to survive a crash is to not get in one.

Elhigh
Elhigh
3 hours ago
Reply to  Angry Bob

“It’s Joshua, he’s still playing the game!”

Now imagine WOPR behind the wheel of a car.

James McHenry
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James McHenry
3 hours ago
Reply to  Ossipon

It’s probably an EMPI clone of some sort. Those are pretty common upgrade carbs. I’m familiar with how the Solex 34 should look, and that doesn’t look like a 34. The bowl on the 34 sits behind the barrel, and you should also be able to see the automatic choke actuator on one side, at least, I think.

Last edited 3 hours ago by James McHenry
10001010
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10001010
3 hours ago

I’ve always been a sucker for a good Thing.

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