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Why A Huge Heavy Duty Ford Transit Van Was The Ultimate Bachelor Party-Mobile

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My oldest brother is getting married soon, and as he’s a bit of an alcohol-brewing nerd (he recently won two silver medals for the mead that he brews) his best man (my youngest brother) planned a bachelor party along Kentucky’s Bourbon Trail. With my future sister-in-law’s brother joining five of my six brothers, my dad, and me, we had a crew of seven all flying into Kentucky from all over the globe. Everyone was relying on me to hook the crew up with transport between various distilleries in rural Kentucky, and boy did I.

I’ve driven plenty of minivans in my day, but a full-on commercial van? Never. I’ve always been curious, as I love the idea of a vehicle with a very specific purpose: To fit a bunch of junk. Or, in the case of my Ford Transit 350 dually 18-seat passenger van, to fit a bunch of butts.

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I got my first glimpse of the beast at the airport, where Ford had dropped it off:

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Ford offers two different Transit Van styles (cargo and passenger van) with three heights — Low Roof (~83″), Medium Roof (~100″), and High Roof (~110″). There are two wheelbase options, 130″ and 148″ for the cargo van (that one also gets three different overall length options), while the passenger van always gets the longer 148″ wheelbase and can be had with the standard 236″ length or an extended 264″ length. Both cargo and passenger Transits can be optioned with single or dual rear wheels.

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Not only was my $78,105 Race Red van the tall boy, but it was also the long boy and the wide boy. It was the heaviest duty Ford Transit passenger van money can buy — the Ford Transit 350 HD with dual rear-wheels. A total beast.

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And at first, I’m not sure this was ideal for my use case, as — after backing out of the parking spot (and noticing how ridiculously high-up the backup camera is mounted, see above) — I hit the freeway and noticed a less than optimal ride.

Detroit Has Transformed In 3 Years, But Some Things Never Change

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Some of that was just the reality of Michigan’s roads, which appear as terrible as they were when I left the state three years ago:

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But some of that was also the simple fact that this 10,360 lb GVW van had only me onboard, along with a couple of carry-on bags; look at all this empty space:

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I checked out the rearview camera and, fittingly for Detroit, saw a crystal clear red Chevelle with black racing stripes. I’m generally not a huge fan of rearview cameras, but a huge van like this definitely benefits from one given that the back glass is in another zip code.

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Driving east down I-94, I began to realize something: Detroit has changed a ton since I left in February of 2023. First, where did this huge DETROIT sign come from, just off the freeway?

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Where the heck did this hotel come from on the I-75/Rochester Rd. exit I used to take to get to my old house?

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Speaking of my old house, it appears to be condemned, doomed to be flattened and turned into condos like much of the rest of Southeast Michigan.

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Seriously, the condo-ification of this area has gotten wild. Across the way from me used to be a house and a nice field:

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Now it’s just a bunch of these:

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What was most shocking, though, was just around the corner from me, on a road I used to run/drive almost daily. Here’s the before:

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And here’s the after:

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A different angle now. The before:

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The after:

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This is all now condos.

Perhaps the strangest change that happened during my three year absence is the replacement of my favorite burger joint, Hunter House, with…a burger joint that looks exactly like it. I nearly dined at “Better Burgers,” only to google it and find that there is a massive legal battle between my go-to burger business, Hunter House, who had been in that building for over seven decades before getting the boot from the landlord, and the new burger spot in the same…spot — Better Burgers.  Screenshot 2026 09 06 At 8.51.38 pm

Needless to say, I grabbed my Transit Van’s lovely dash-mounted shifter (I’d have preferred a column-shift, but it’s fine), popped it into reverse, got out of the Better Burgers’ parking lot, and headed down the fabled Woodward Avenue until I saw a white tent where Hunter House was quickly building its new facility but still serving delicious burgers. Screenshot 2026 09 06 At 8.51.54 pm

It was here in this parking lot, where I was wolfing down delicious greasy, cheesy beef sandwiches that I noticed two things. First, because the longest version of the Transit keeps the medium length Transit’s wheelbase, the thing has a giant butt:

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Second, I notice that the doors really don’t open very far:

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It appears that the mirrors — which, oddly, you cannot fold electronically unless the vehicle is on — would prevent the door from opening further, anyway:

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This wasn’t an issue, since I hadn’t eaten that many Hunter House burgers yet, but if I were a fatter guy, maybe that door opening would be suboptimal. Maybe.

One thing I was thrilled to see had not changed much was my go-to junkyard, U.S. Auto in Sterling Heights. This is the junkyard where I cut my teeth as a young car journalist.

 

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Still some great vintage iron out there, mixed in with plenty of modern stuff. That same description applied to the Autopian meetup that took place at the Walmart parking lot. I am shocked at how many people showed up to pose behind that van on a random weekday (thank you all!):

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There were some amazing machines at the meetup:

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But readers were legitimately interested in the van, with some pointing out features I hadn’t even looked at yet. For example, I hadn’t yet popped the hood to reveal the 3.5-liter EcoBoost offering 310 horsepower and 400 lb-ft of torque. Hooked to this thing is a 10-speed automatic and an all-wheel drive system with a limited slip differential in the rear 3.73 differential.

The Van Ain’t Slow

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We decided to put this motor to the test, filling the van with 15 readers and taking the thing for a jaunt up and down Maple Rd. The thing is legitimately quick!

 

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Zero to 60 mph in 12-ish seconds is amazing for a big van with probably over 2,500 pounds of human onboard, and Matt later tried again and told me he got closer to 10. Three factors are at play, here; first, the motor is powerful; second, the 10-speed automatic makes the best of what power is available; and third, this thing isn’t as heavy as you might think.

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It’s about 7,200 pounds, or about the same weight as a Rivian R1T or F-350, which to me seems reasonable for basically a building-on-wheels. Part of the reason it’s not heavier, and part of the reason why — when laden with 15 passengers – it rides quite nicely (despite its leaf-sprung solid rear axle) is that the Transit Van is actually not a body-on-frame vehicle. Here’s a look at the chassis-cab version of the van:

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You’ll notice that the U-shaped unibody rails are capped in the rear so that they’re fully boxed. This appears to be exactly the same setup as my 1992 Jeep Comanche, a famously-unibody and surprisingly lightweight and nicely-riding pickup truck.

Anyway, I’m assuming readers were drawn to this van because it’s fun (bright red!), it has a singular purpose that it’s actually good at, and it’s a very humble and kinda dorky design, and we all love dorky. We also love disconnecting those rear doors so they can flop forward against the bump-stops on the side of the van; look at how far these open! (Allison, below, showed me how to do it):

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Anyway, let’s get to this bachelor party.

Off To The Bachelor Party In Kentucky

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The bachelor party was to be held in Kentucky, meaning  I had a six hour drive ahead of me through some of the finest parts of America’s midwest.

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On the way out, I saw the last abandoned building I used to explore that hasn’t yet been torn down: the iconic Fischer Body plant right off I-375 in Detroit. I know blight is considered a bad thing, but abandoned automotive buildings were some of the coolest elements of the city of Detroit, and most are now gone. It’s a good thing, but I can’t help but say Detroit lost a bit of soul in the process.

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After ogling at the surprisingly decent 14 MPG indicated by the computer, I stopped to fill up and noticed that you can’t close the filler unless the door is open. This isn’t a big deal, as you typically open your door to move your vehicle after filling it, and what’s more, it’s actually a brilliant way to lock your gas cap without having to pay for a unique lock — you just use the door as the lock!

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I drove through Ohio and towards Kentucky, where Chevy builds its Corvettes in Bowling Green. Look at all those C8s wrapped in plastic in the photo above.

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One thing I learned quickly during my trek is that, when you drive a high-top van like this Transit, the view you have out of your windshield — and all of your muscle memory from every car you’ve ever driven — doesn’t prepare you for the reality that there’s a huge shed just behind you.

This is all to say that, while dipping into a Burger King to snag a Whopper Jr. with cheese, upon being asked to pull forward after telling my order I noticed that the van wasn’t rolling forward when I let off the brake. “Hmm, this is odd,” I thought. I tapped the accelerator. I still wasn’t moving forward. “Weird!” I gave it a bit more gas, only to hear: SCREEEEECHHH!

Oh crap. I hopped out of the van, looked up, and saw that the van’s roof was hitting the clearance sign, which was 9 feet tall. My van? 9 feet 2 inches. Not ideal:

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I texted Ford’s team immediately, and they were nice enough to forgive me for my transgression. I hit the road, following maps on Apple Carplay, cruising 70 mph very comfortably. The van is huge, and the seating position is quite high up, but the van doesn’t feel giant from the driver’s seat, and the forward visibility, power, and decent-if-a-bit-firm ride made the whole journey fairly chill.

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I took a break at one point to hop into the back row of seats for a nap. The lower cushions are a bit short, but the width of the van was enough for me at 5’8″.

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After deciding I needed to be awake for the next day, since I was driving my whole crew around, I found a cheap motel, and — in order to prevent the van’s butt from sticking out — I found a parking spot with a level grassy area behind it, and backed in. This would be my strategy for the weekend:

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The next morning I hit the freeway again for a few hours and picked up my dad and brothers from the Louisville airport:

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One by one, they all trickled in, and one by one they all said the same thing: “Dude! You went all-out!”

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I think everyone was expecting all seven of us to cram into a minivan, which would have worked fine, but this was a bachelor party. Squeezing everyone in tight to go from distillery to distillery just wasn’t going to be as fun as everyone having tons of room to sprawl out. Look at how huge this 15-passenger van is inside:

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And the space for cargo behind the fourth row was prodigious.

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The phone-charging situation was good, though I had to tell everyone ahead of time to reach back into their cable drawers and snag a USB-A cable, as the van only has one USB-C port up on the dash.

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The cupholster situation was amazing. In the back, there were cupholders all along the beltline trim, but up front is where things got impressive. Not only was there room in the door pockets, there were six cupholders built into the dashboard — two at the base of the center stack, two outboard in the middle of the dash, and two outboard at the lower part of the dash:

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Speaking of the dashboard, it had quite a bit of storage ahead of the driver and passenger. You can see the upper dashboard cubbies in the photo below, which also shows the rooftop storage area just aft of the driver and passenger seats:

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The first thing I did when I got to Louisville was fill this area with beef jerky, chips, and cookies so my dad, brothers, future brother’s brother-in-law and I would never be even slightly hungry during this bachelor party. This would be important if folks were going to be drinking:

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Comfort was the whole point of this van. We had tons of space, we had tons of snacks (and a cooler in the back), and the interior was always at the perfect temperature thanks to a separate rear HVAC:

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The thing blows ice cubes.

On The Bourbon Trail, Our Ford Transit May As Well Have Been A Lamborghini

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Our first stop along the Bourbon Trail was a small distillery called Peerless. Started by the stud on the wall in the photo below back in the late 19th century, the distillery went belly-up around 1920 because of WWI and Prohibition.

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Almost a century later in 2009 the handsome founder Henry Kraver’s grandson, Corky Taylor, sold his financial services company and then in 2015 reopened Peerless, managing to somehow get the original Distilled Spirits Plan number (DSP number) of 50, whereas a new distillery would normally have the number 20,000+. Needless to say, Peerless advertises this number heavily:

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I’m telling you all this history because I can’t tell you anything about taste. I don’t like the taste of any alcoholic beverage, so I found all the bourbon I drank during this weekend (which wasn’t much; I was the designated driver) to taste the same (i.e. not good).

Still, it was cool looking at the history and especially the science behind it all, especially Peerless’s six giant fermentation tanks and the 2,500 gallon cooker:

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The most impressive piece of hardware is the 26-foot, 14-inch diameter, 18-plate continuous copper still:

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As I understand it (and I’m no expert), a still is basically just a giant heat exchanger. The corn/rye/barley and local limestone water that makes up various batches of “mash” gets cooked in the cooker, sent to the tanks for fermentation, and then all that goes into a huge 3,800 gallon “beer well,” which ultimately sends that beer into this still at the middle/top. At the bottom of the still is boiling water.

The beer fed into the top passes through a series of cold plates (condensers) that have holes in them; the holes allow both the beer to fall through and the vapor from below to rise. As the water vapor and beer interact, it vaporizes parts of the beer into alcohol, which rises, hits a cold plate, becomes a liquid, gets vaporized into alcohol again by steam, hits a cold plate, becomes a liquid, and on and on until the vapor can get through each plate and to the top of the still.

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It’s fascinating stuff, even if, at the tasting at the end of the tour, I didn’t drink much:

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After everyone but me had a nice buzz going, we walked to the Louisville Slugger Museum, a company dedicated to the now-fifth-generation, family-owned baseball bat company Hillerich & Bradsby Co. Here’s my brother Ian swinging Hank Aaron’s actual, game-used bat:

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Here’s my brother Ben picking up the wood billets that will be used to make bats for LA Dodger catcher Will Smith:

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Here we’re watching those billets — either white ash, maple, or birch (which come from Hillerich & Bradsby’s own forests in Pennsylvania) — get machined into bats in a lathe:

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The sign below shows the baseball players for whom the company was machining bats that day:

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Before we left, my brother Ian, my brother’s future brother-in-law Matthew, and I hit the batting cages and reminisced on Little League and how quickly our years have clearly flown by:

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After the museum, I drove us all to our Air BnB and we basically played video games all night, as adults do:

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But it was really day 2, while at Woodford Reserve conducting my backwards parking operation to keep my van from hanging out too far into the lane, that I noticed something: Our van was getting a lot of looks.

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That’s when I realized: There were Transit vans everywhere:

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Every single distillery we visited for the remainder of the weekend had its parking lot filled with Transits, whose drivers were wondering who the heck I was, and whether there was new competition in town.

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I had a chat with Jason from Kentucky Bourbon Boys, and I asked him what he thought of the vans. He said he was a fan, and that — aside from a recent emissions issue on one of the vans — his company found them to be reliable and practical, and they valued the fact that they were American.

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Over the next two days, I drove our crew of seven from distillery to distillery along the Bourbon Trail, learning about how wood gives Whisky its flavor and color, and the difference in flavor profile created by a barrel that is charred or toasted:

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I also learned about black whisky fungus found around Rickouses that store bourbon barrels. Apparently this black fungus, which is found everywhere in the region, used to be a giveaway if someone was illegally making whisky during prohibition. Look at how covered this Chevy K1500 is after parking near a Rickhouse!:

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While participating in all these tours, I learned lots of local “lingo,” including:

  • Angel’s Share: Whiskey that evaporates through the barrel’s wood pores
  • Kentucky Hug: The warm sensation when drinking whiskey
  • Kentucky Chew: A special way to taste whiskey
  • Whiskey Thief: A long tube used to pull whiskey from a barrel

It was all very touristy, but a good time nonetheless. Here’s the future married man getting serenaded at a Mexican restaurant and then getting a pie to the face:

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And here’s our crew just drinking whiskey and playing corn hole at Whiskey Thief Brewing Company. This was a great day:

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It was here at Whiskey Thief that I had trouble finding a parking spot, in part because there were so many Transit tour-vans:

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So I decided to park on an incline — something that made quite a few passers-by rather uncomfortable, as they kept trying to flag me down and warn me that I was about to tip:

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From where I sat in the driver’s seat, everything felt under control. That leaf-sprung solid rear axle flexed well and kept all six tires on the ground:

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Well, maybe only five full tires were touching:

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Aiming the nose up the hill to get the entire van off the road caused my rear tires to spin out. This actuated the front axle, which pulled the van up and out of the way.

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For a vehicle this large, I’m not sure I’d leave the all-wheel drive option box unticked, as 7,000 pounds stuck in grass just because you want to park off the side of the road sounds like a nightmare.

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As we departed our final brewery, it became clear that I was driving the supercar of the Bourbon Trail.

Nobody wants to drive their own cars to these breweries, as the whole point was to drink the product, so tour vans abounded, and of all the tour vans out there, I was driving the Top Dog: a fully-decked out, all-wheel drive, Transit 350 HD. The heavy-duty, dual-rear-wheel, EcoBoost-powered beast, a vehicle perfectly suited for this job, and it’s not just me saying that, it’s pretty much every tour company in the area saying that with their purchases.

An Unforgettable Bachelor Party Thanks, In Part, To The Perfect Transportation

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I won’t pretend the Transit was flawless. The sliding door was fine when opening the door from the outside, as many tour companies do for their clients, but when my dad and brothers tried opening the long, heavy door from inside, there just wasn’t enough arm-space to swing that door open comfortably. This thing deserves a power door; the fact that it’s not even an option seems unacceptable to me, and I can’t imagine Ford has customer data that says otherwise.

I also found the infotainment system to be very useful, but given the distances at play, I feel the screen should be angled towards the driver a bit to make it more useful.

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In addition, I wish the steering wheel telescoped a bit. And again, the USB-As feel a bit dated, the ride can be a little stiff when unladen, the power mirrors should fold when the van is off, but otherwise, the van crushed this assignment.

The bachelor party ended with a tour of a Rickhouse, a building built especially to age bourbon.

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Interestingly, the inner structure is all made of wood, and barrels are laid on that wood. Only after that is the outer part of the building laid over top:

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Here we are getting a taste via a Whisky Thief:

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And this should give you an idea of the scale of one of these buildings — just multiply it by ~7 floors:

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We also stopped by a replica of Abraham Lincoln’s birth-home:

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And finished our weekend with a walk through the biggest cave in the world (by length — 426 miles at least): Mammoth Cave.

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It was a truly epic weekend, and I’m glad I had the ultimate Bourbon Trail Supercar to help make it all happen.

 

 

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Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
1 month ago

The Fisher is under active redevelopment, hence those tarps:
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Fordlover1983
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Fordlover1983
1 month ago

I’ve seen many miles behind the wheel of a Transit! So much nicer than the Econoline/Express vans of old! I’m usually doing about 1500 miles every summer hauling the church teens to a conference (KS to East TN). Back in 22, my whole family took one to the Grand Canyon for Mom and Dad’s 50th anniversary. That one DID fit in the Taco Bell drive-through!

We’ve built box vans out of a few Transit cab and chassis here at work, but they’re not too popular for that market (with us at least).

Balloondoggle
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Balloondoggle
1 month ago

So, you mention an abandoned car factory in Michigan that is now gone, but as you cruised I-75 through Cincinnati you didn’t notice the Crosley factory that is still standing and has seen multiple redevelopment proposals? Why do you hate Crosley?

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Actually, if you had, and took pictures, I’d probably complain that you were on the highway in construction traffic playing with your phone, so probably for the best that you didn’t do that.

You know, this site could use more Crosley content. So proud of that guy.

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TheDrunkenWrench
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TheDrunkenWrench
1 month ago

The fact that David’s old house was condemned after he left really speaks volumes to the conditions that man endured.

I love Transit vans, I’d gladly get one, but I can buy a well-equipped half ton for less money. Which angers me.

UnseenCat
UnseenCat
1 month ago

RE: David’s old house… Not surprising, and likely there was nothing ever really all that bad about the house or neighborhood. Just a victim of creeping urban sprawl and gentrification. The old neighborhood very likely was getting closed-in on by redevelopment. Developers make an “offer they can’t refuse” to homeowners and landlords on still-perfectly-fine properties which have been losing value due to the urbanization moving in, and once they’re all snatched up, everything is condemned and bulldozed to make way for “progress.” The ones who lose out the most are the tenants who have to pick up and move, and often still get billed for, or lose their deposit over, any minor “damage” — even if the property is never going to be occupied again. (Nobody should be leaving a biohazard behind, but at the same time, who cares if the carpet is dirty or there are picture hangers left on the walls?)

TheDrunkenWrench
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TheDrunkenWrench
1 month ago
Reply to  UnseenCat

Renoviction and Gentrification is definitely a big problem.

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1 month ago

Vans are great, but I’m not a fan of having the long body with the short wheelbase. I used to drive tour buses for a band every once in a while, and it had a similar layout – so there was around 300kgs of music equipment hanging out behind the back axle.

When gingerly pulling off a roundabout onto an uphill highway on-ramp in Luxembourg one icy morning, the rear end cut loose in fairly spectacular fashion. I think it fishtailed three times before I got it under control.

MrLM002
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MrLM002
1 month ago
Reply to  GENERIC_NAME

Same, I want the longest wheelbase for a given OAL

Dave Larkman
Dave Larkman
1 month ago

Thing 1: vans are great, I’ve done the Goodwood hill climb in a van, and Lotus’ Hethel circuit (in a full sized Transit), and the vans were hilarious on track.

Thing 2: were we both just in Kentucky at the same time? Wild coincidence.

JayJay
JayJay
1 month ago

I just find it ridiculous that the pickup trucks around it are almost all as big as your bus…

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Chuck Posy
Chuck Posy
1 month ago

Whenever I find the sidewalk blocked by the big butt of a motor vehicle, and I have to go back until I find a ramp down so I can join the car traffic in my wheelchair, I realize why it would not be a good idea to own a bazooka. I’d have blown that van to smithereens if I were there and had one.

Bram Oude Elberink
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Bram Oude Elberink
1 month ago
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Very understandable from your point. But to be fair to David, at least in the photos shown, he doesn’t block sidewalks. I see the big butt hanging over green a lot, one side shot of the butt over a sidewalk, but with enough room for your wheelchair (I guess), and one front shot where you can’t see how much he blocks the sidewalk, but given the width of the sidewalk and the fact that the space has wheel blockers my guess is that enough of the sidewalk is free.

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MrLM002
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MrLM002
1 month ago
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Where I’m at semi trucks regularly run people off the road and keep driving, for that reason I second your recreational bazooka concept.

an NLAW blowing up a trailer would be a great way to hold the Truck Driver accountable for running someone off the road without stopping afterwards.

Teokiya
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Teokiya
1 month ago

I was a bit surprised David had never driven a commercial van, but then realised that people in the US must use trucks for jobs we would rent vans here for in Europe, e.g. hauling stuff, moving house, etc?

Phuzz
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Phuzz
1 month ago
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I must have spent weeks in the back of mini-busses like this one, on various school trips when I was a kid.Probably less time as an adult, but I’ve definitely been on stag dos (bachelor parties) in several. Fortunately not spent any time in the back of police vans.

M SV
M SV
1 month ago
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That’s a fair point. The regular roof vans and the small box trucks are almost always the same cost at then rental place so most people go box truck because they can fit more stuff easier.
The smaller box trucks are typically full size van based. Typically econoline or GM van based cab and chassis. The regular roof vans are typically 1/2 ton. You would have to seek a 3/4 ton or larger van rental out especially a mid or high roof. And it would be more expensive then a box truck.
Home Depot has some transit based flat bed trucks for rent. You don’t see those very much in the US. So maybe things are heading that way.

Mercedes Streeter
Mercedes Streeter
1 month ago
Reply to  Teokiya

I have rented/purchased commercial vans a few times, sometimes just for “the lulz” as the kids used to say.

MrLM002
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MrLM002
1 month ago
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I’m surprised too, with U-Haul there are Express vans a plenty to rent, but high roof vans in the US are fairly recent, and the Express van was there when the first fish grew legs and waltzed onto land.

Boosted
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Boosted
1 month ago

In a span of a week or two my transit had to be a people hauler, cargo van home depot and dumpster runs, and a camper van. It’s a pretty versatile van, comfort wise it’s an par with the older Sprinter, my buddy just picked up a 26 Sprinter passenger and his is so much more comfortable than my 2023 Passenger.

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
1 month ago

Looks like a fun trip.

The cars in that Detroit junkyard video had what to my non rustbelt eyes looked like shockingly little rust considering they are wrecked used cars in a Detroit junkyard. Have Trucoats gotten that good or have I misjudged the magnitude of the rustbelt altogether?

Re: “the reality of Michigan’s roads, which appear as terrible as they were when I left the state three years ago”. The road in that picture looks rough but it looks nowhere near the tire blowing, rim bending, strut shattering roadways I understand Michigan is legendary for.

“We decided to put this motor to the test, filling the van with 15 readers and taking the thing for a jaunt up and down Maple Rd. The thing is legitimately quick!”

Which reminds me when I was tasked with shuttling guests from their hotel in Los Gatos California to the Mountain Winery wedding venue in Saratoga. The route was mostly a narrow, winding two lane road and I was doing it 15 guests at a time in some kind of rented white Ford church van. Everything was running way behind schedule so I had to zip that van back and forth at *exactly the posted speed limit* the whole way. Most of the guests were old people but they sure did enjoy the spirited *but completely within the legal speed limit* ride. We even saw a mountain lion.

I love vans.

“As I understand it (and I’m no expert), a still is basically just a giant heat exchanger.”

IIRC you are an expert in heat exchangers. Does this look like a radiator to you?

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Nick B.
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Nick B.
1 month ago
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You have not misjudged the magnitude of the rust belt. My mom’s Pacifica is bordering on unsafe to drive due to body and frame rot, while the drivetrain and interior are still in great shape. I used to have a ’92 Tempo whose carpet had become structural and you could see into the engine bay where there used to be a fender.

3WiperB
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3WiperB
1 month ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

No, there’s some very rusty stuff there, but it tends to show up in the frame/underside and then wheelwells.

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
1 month ago
Reply to  3WiperB

The video showed some wheel wells, some empty engine bay and some glimpses of undersides. But these are 20+ yo junked cars which I would have expected to show the most rusted through bodywork, especially cars like that Vibe and NA Miata which are decades old and were known for rust.

In hindsight though now I think its likely the worst rustmonsters just go straight into the jaws of the crusher and only the less rusted cars are put out to be picked clean.

Wonk Unit
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Wonk Unit
1 month ago
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Re Michigan roads: You know you’re in Michigan when the guy ahead of you at Discount Tire is explaining which pot hole popped his tire, and you’re there to replace a tire after hitting the exact same pot hole….

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
1 month ago
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Sounds to me like Discount Tire is digging the potholes.

M SV
M SV
1 month ago

It always stuck me as a strange that there are so many transits not many Sprinters in Kentucky then you cross in to Tennessee and so many Sprinters not as many transits. I just put it down to ford having plants in Kentucky and Tennessee trying to be more fancy especially in and around nashvegas.

I don’t think uhaul has high roof vans maybe a mid roof but most seem to be regular. I bet drive thoughs and parking garages a big reason why. If you aren’t thinking about it, it’s too late most of the time. Those PVC pipes that hang down are a great idea. The make a racket but don’t typically do damage. I’ve hit a few of those and it’s always jaring but better then a scratch or being stuck..

The brewing and distilling equipment always fascinates me. Especially when it’s custom made or even made by the brewer or distiller. I used to go to brewery that belonged to nasa engineer who had build almost all his own equipment. It lacked soul but you could taste the soul of the machine in most of his beers. Probably used different materials when buildind his equipment then normal. He was a straight science brewer no art.

Jens Torben
Jens Torben
1 month ago

Here in Europe the dual rear wheel version is limited to the 5 ton chassis, therefor most people born after 1980 are not allowed to drive them, unless they have the licence for trucks.
And here it is more or less just available with the 2.0 liter diesel with the wet timing belt.
I personally have a L4H3 Camper conversion and have to say, that Ford really managed to make this thing drive pretty well. Especially considering it is so much cheaper than for example a Mercedes Sprinter.

Stephen Reed
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Stephen Reed
1 month ago

What’s weird is I live on the TN/KY border just a couple hours from Bowling Green, and I never knew about the Bourbon Trail! I’m going to have to look more into this.

Dodsworth
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Dodsworth
1 month ago

It’s the Ferrari of Transit Vans. That’s why yours was getting eyed. I enjoyed this Labor Day travelogue very much!

Last Pants
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Last Pants
1 month ago
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Pretty sure it was the Lambo of transit vans dude.

Alter Id
Alter Id
1 month ago

Is anyone else unsurprised that housing demand and land values in Troy shot up immediately after David’s departure? And prices in Los Angeles have leveled off and even declined slightly of late?

Luxobarge
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Luxobarge
1 month ago
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As a former real estate development professional, I am 100% not joking when I say “departure of guy who had 10 cars in his yard” and “development and sale of upscale condos” are clearly cause and effect.

I hate to say this to David because he’s such a nice guy, but the problem was him. He was the blight.

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
1 month ago
Reply to  David Tracy

I argue condos are a DOWNSCALE, not an upscale from a house with a yard big enough for 10 cars.

Condos are for workaholics and their landlords.

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VanGuy
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VanGuy
1 month ago

If I was ever going to settle for a factory passenger van variant rather than a conversion, this would be my current choice, by a good margin.

Can you ask Ford why they don’t have power sliding doors, or a barn door option? I’d love to hear what they’d say.

I drive an Express conversion and I love that Expresses are still coming off the line new and all, but the factory passenger Expresses still lack headrests for rear passengers. I mean, c’mon, for as few safety features as these things have, not even whiplash protection for getting rear-ended?
Not to mention, the cupholder situation in a 15-passenger Express is possibly the worst ratio of any vehicle with at least 1 cupholder. For all 13 passengers behind the front two seats, they get a total of…two cupholders.

Stephen Reed
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Stephen Reed
1 month ago
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I remember riding in an Express van from Knoxville to Peoria. It was… a time with the lack of headrests. The Transit is more comfortable. I rode one to Cincinnati and it was nice, though the weather sealing in the brand new one I rode in could have used work (every now and again droplets seemed to enter the passenger area).

MrLM002
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MrLM002
1 month ago
Reply to  VanGuy

For all 13 passengers behind the front two seats, they get a total of…two cupholders

How else are you going to get herd immunity?

Freddy Bartholomew
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Freddy Bartholomew
1 month ago

I am curious whether David’s brother knows Kris Plizga in California. He has won national awards. I think mostly around the 2010s. He is a friend and I’ve been fortunate to be able to taste some of his handiwork. He also makes a variety of outstanding cured meats for personal consumption.

Park
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Park
1 month ago

I’ve rented a Transit Mid-Roof 15 passenger and was really surprised how you could get it in and out of spaces. The turning radius was fantastic and the cameras were great. I needed a van a few months later and ended up with a Chevrolet Express 15 passenger and that was a real downgrade.

Dfredd
Dfredd
1 month ago

We have essentially the same van, only no duals and no extended body. And plus solar panels and a cell booster antenna on top, so we’re about 10′ 6″ tall. Have yet to scrape the top, but always have to be alert. I fear it’s only a matter of time.
I’ve been impressed with how easy it is to drive hundreds of miles without excessive fatigue.

DonK
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DonK
1 month ago

Now I am curious to know which meadery employs your brother. I have enjoyed the meads from Schramm’s and Pips, as well as some (but not all!) of the meaderies from Florida.

Jack Trade
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Jack Trade
1 month ago

Was your brother like “Dude, where’s my Mustang?”

I’m loving the actually legitimate amber marker lights on the roof (unlike when you see them say plastered on Tacomas. It’s like the 00s sedan spoiler for 2026).

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Mouse
Mouse
1 month ago

Ooooooof that roof. It’s nice they were understanding but I felt that screech reading it and then seeing the photo.

VanGuy
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VanGuy
1 month ago
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I have a high-roof Express conversion with a fiberglass roof (8.5 feet tall overall) and I’m dreading washing the thing since most typical automated car washes only have a 7 foot clearance.

Bags
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Bags
1 month ago
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My high roof Promaster fit in the local do-it-yourself carwash with the overhead pressure washer arms. That was the only option I could find, but it worked well with a little room to spare.

VanGuy
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VanGuy
1 month ago
Reply to  Bags

Yeah, mine fits into one of those as well. Just bummed there isn’t a lazier option, especially as the cooler months approach.

Bags
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Bags
1 month ago
Reply to  VanGuy

That Promaster is long gone and has recently been replaced by a minibus. So I’ve taken the height issue and added a width issue. Haven’t figured out if that will fit in the self-service wash yet. On the bright side it isn’t all white and constantly dirty looking.

Mouse
Mouse
1 month ago
Reply to  VanGuy

Not to sound like a shill or anything, but DT’s article on foam canons actually convinced me to go that route.

A. Barth
A. Barth
1 month ago

And finished our weekend with a walk through the biggest cave in the world (by length — 426 miles at least)

Wow, you guys walk fast!

Turd Ferguson
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Turd Ferguson
1 month ago

C’mon David. That’s a Chevelle. Not a Camaro

Anonymous Person
Anonymous Person
1 month ago
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Appears to be a ’72.

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