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Why The New Mercedes Benz AMG GT 4 Door Is A Hideous Repudiation Of Everything A Mercedes Is Supposed To Be

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We’re going to play a little guessing game. Next time you’re out on the road and you see a newish Mercedes Benz from the last decade or so, try to guess what model it is before you’re close enough to read the badge. I can almost guarantee you’ll get it wrong. Want to know why? Because they all look the fucking same. Sure, the volumes might be different depending on whether it’s a sedan, an SUV or a coupe, but beyond that try and tell them apart. It’s impossible. E-Class? EQE? EQS? Who the fuck knows. I imagine the poor souls who have the job of selling the wretched things have difficulty explaining to baffled punters why forty grand’s worth of boggo C-Class looks similar to a hundred grands worth of EQS. Has any premium OEM flushed its storied heritage down the khazi quite so successfully? The current range are perfectly shaped for slipping round the U-bend after all.

It’s not only the exteriors that have been on the photocopier. For years Mercedes interiors have been defined by retina burning Cinemascope touchscreens, turbine air vents and ambient lighting from a Middle Eastern nightclub. Mercedes interior designers would probably put a screen in the fucking headliner if they thought they could get it through crash testing. Dullsville, Iowa on the outside, ghastly and tasteless on the inside, it’s safe to assume if the Mercedes Benz motto “The Best or Nothing” is hanging on the wall in the Sindelfingen design studio it’s in ten-foot-high neon letters.

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I’m not a religious person, but I try to be sensitive to those who are so please excuse me when I say what in the Jesus H Three-Pointed Christ is going on in Stuttgart? The brand-new Mercedes-AMG GT four door coupe plopped onto the litter tray like a piping hot cat turd on Wednesday morning and crikey it’s another horrifying fish, like something from a David Attenborough documentary about mutated sea creatures dwelling at the bottom of the Mariana Trench. Automotive social media, not always an arena for nuanced debate I grant you, has been universally caustic and unstinting in expressing disappointment. My reaction is much the same as it has been for every other recent Benz release over the last decade or so: my whelm is well and truly under. Oh look. Mercedes Benz have launched their car again.

How Peak Mercedes Started

It would be easy to place the blame for all this on departed design chief Gorden Wagener, which is exactly what I’m going to do. But before that we need to understand what a Mercedes was and how their existing design direction is an anathema to everything the brand traditionally stood for.

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Although he gets almost all the credit for defining “peak Mercedes” from the mid-seventies to the late nineties, Bruno Sacco didn’t lay down the formal, structured forms we associate with classic Mercedes designs. The foundations were first sketched by Paul Bracq with the W113 Pagoda SL of 1963 and the W108 sedan of 1965. This pair of cars moved Mercedes away from the pontoon and streamliner influences of their post-war cars, exemplified by the seminal 300SL Gullwing.

At the time Mercedes was known for the thoroughness of their engineering, their exemplary build quality and perhaps most importantly their safety. Thanks to the genius of Mercedes engineer Béla Barényi, Mercedes pioneered the crumple zone which appeared on the W111 “Fintail,” which also provided the basis for the Pagoda. It was his thinking that gave that car its distinctive hard top, his reasoning being that the highest point of the roof should be above the passengers heads, not in the middle of the car. This commitment to safety would remain a hallmark of the brand for decades to come. Mercedes’ weren’t sporty or flashy; they were very expensive cars for old money types who didn’t buy a house full of beautiful furniture — they inherited one.

Bracq had worked under Friedrich Geiger, who was head of Mercedes design both before and after the war. The car that made him was the 1934 500K W29, a long, high-performance roadster meant to be driven by its owner when such a thing was still something of a novelty. The Pagoda and Fintail were designed on his watch, as well as the W100 600 Großer Mercedes of 1964. At the time it was the most expensive car in the world and with its hydraulic powered everything, the most complicated. It also had the dubious distinction of being the chariot of choice for despots everywhere. Geiger retired in 1975 and Bruno Sacco, a trained engineer cum-designer who had been at the company since 1958 took charge.

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A Mercedes’ exemplary build quality and cost-no-object engineering meant they lasted a long time. Sacco was careful to ensure that no new model made the previous one look obsolete. What this translated to in his work was a careful cultivation of the themes laid down by Bracq, sensitively updated over successive models while incorporating the latest advancements in technology, aerodynamics and most importantly, safety.

If you want proof of how well the Mercedes family identity worked across the range, look at the 1977 T1 van, in production essentially unchanged until it was replaced by the Sprinter (a further successful update of the same ideas) in 1995. That two-decade run of Mercedes Benz vehicles is a phenomenal body of work, but more importantly it demonstrates how you can exemplify your brand values through successful, thoughtful and consistent design.

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When he retired in 1999 Sacco was replaced by Peter Pfieffer, who joined Mercedes in 1968 from Ford’s Cologne studio. Fittingly for the world’s oldest car maker, like Sacco he was not a figurehead when such a thing was becoming the norm. Rock star names like J Mays and Chris Bangle were visible, media savvy designers with a lot to say. Such a thing was inappropriate for Mercedes, which very much did things in its own time-honored way, which was all well and good until the disastrous “merger of equals” with Chrysler in 1998, which took everything good about both companies and fucked it all into a cocked hat.

Dr. Z and Flash Gorden

Emerging from the rubble post-merger in 2007, Mercedes was in trouble. Its deadly rivals in Ingolstadt and Munich were stealing their lunch and attracting younger, affluent buyers – always the dream for OEMs because if you get them young you’ve hopefully got them for life. DaimlerChrysler (and then Daimler AG) Chairman Dieter Zetsche was determined to reestablish Mercedes’ reputation and meet BMW and Audi head on. This is the context for Mercedes wanting a younger, more expressive designer to shake things up. Enter “Flash” Gorden Wagener.

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Wagener is working class guy who studied industrial design in his native Essen, a blue-collar town in the Ruhr Valley. He then when on to study automotive design at the Royal College of Art in London (does any of this sound like a slightly less successful car designer you know?) and joined Mercedes in 1997 at the tender age of 29. He’d done a bit of time in the trenches at GM, Mazda and VW but it was at Mercedes where Wagener would come into his own. After a couple of years Pfeiffer sent him to the Mercedes advanced studio in California, where he mastered the art of giving press interviews and getting high on his own farts.

Wagener’s influence would be felt initially in cars like the first CLS, a car I initially hated. It was a massive departure for Mercedes because it was a car that sold explicitly on expressive style. Although the CLS was a success, other deviations from the sober Mercedes norm were not. What, exactly was the point of the not-a-car-not-an-MPV R-Class? When Pfeiffer retired in 1999, he anointed Wagener to take over in the Head of Design position, aged just 39.

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What is important to understand is that Mercedes, like BMW, first and foremost saw themselves as an engineering company. And like Chris Bangle at BMW, Wagener was determined to make a break with this approach which he considered lacking in emotional appeal. He developed a new from language he dubbed “sensual purity,” which first appeared on the AMG Vision Gran Turismo concept of 2013.

Looking like a cheap diecast of a much better-looking car that had been trodden on, the Vision GT had a deep bodyside, a squashed passenger cabin and enough dash-to-axle ratio to make grown men feel like THEY were driving their own dick, something that can also be said about Wagener’s self-confessed favorite of his own work, the AMG GT. The Vision GT also introduced the squinty headlights, wide gaping grille and smooth surfacing that Wagener presumably came up with after trying and failing to pick up a bar of worn soap in the shower.

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Since then, it’s been a case of one size fits all – rather hilariously given this is the exact situation BMW found itself in pre-Bangle, and I don’t think any of it is entirely a coincidence. The big three premium German brands have been chasing each other’s tails for decades at this point – essentially since they all decided to extend down market into cheaper cars in the mid-nineties. If one does something the others follow, which is how we’ve ended up splitting niches with the worst-of-both-category cars like the GLC and GLE coupe SUVs. More than that chasing younger, fashion conscious and social media savvy buyers led to things like the ridiculous Virgil Abloh Maybach collaboration, a bespoke 6 meter long, two-seater SUV thing, another example of heinous post-modernism eating its own tail.

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Why The AMG GT 4 Door Is Bad

Judging the AMG GT 4 Door Coupe on its own merits it’s clear Wagener’s “sensual purity” design language has run out of catwalk. The main visual pain points are the truncated tail with its full width and depth blackout panel containing triple rear lights looking totally lost in the void surrounding them, and the gaping oversized grill with its lit vertical elements. The headlights have an odd, ill-defined shape that’s neither fish nor fowl, and why isn’t there a black infill panel between the top of the rear wind shield and the black panoramic roof?

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Opening the door to the interior you half expect to bit hit in the face with a cloud of shisha smoke. It’s hard to tell from the released media images exactly what’s going on with the highlight colors – one set of shots resembles Darth Vader’s childhood bedroom with red stitching, seat belts, seat inserts and red graphics on the headliner and then there’s a few images with yellow contrast stitching without showing how that color is applied anywhere else. I think it’s safe to assume any color theory around complimentary tones was flushed down the bog along with any sense of taste. As for the screens, Wagener is on record as saying:

“When you have a small screen, you automatically send the message ‘congratulations, you are sitting in a small car’.”

Truly spoken like a man who probably thinks a 100” flat screen television mounted directly to the wall in your living is the height of home interior sophistication.

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It’s easy to fall into to the trap of criticizing the current Mercedes range of aero blobs for not adhering to what we consider to be the classic Mercedes brand identity – but that is exactly the problem. What Mercedes says they stand for – The Best or Nothing – is not reflected in Wagener’s direction for the brand over the last fifteen years or so. A sprawling range of identikit cars all with the same soft surfacing and oversized grilles festooned with Temu LED lighting do not speak softly to quality of engineering and longevity of service.

Instead, they glitter like tasteless baubles and snare superficial customers with the siren call of cheap leases. Wagener’s stated intention was to make Mercedes more emotionally desirable, but what this overlooks is that emotional attachment to a brand is not only about appearance – it’s about how your stated brand values translate into the overall ownership experience. BMW and to a lesser degree Audi, have one or two missteps aside, managed to maintain and evolve a consistent identity for decades. You can draw a straight line from Michelotti’s Neue Klass sports sedans to the current 3 series. Massimo Fraschella’s Audi Concept C references J Mays and Freeman Thomas’ original TT whilst refining and advancing the ideas behind that groundbreaking car. Both these brands have had no problem attracting a younger demographic and they haven’t needed tawdry brand tie-ups to do so.

Mercedes sales volumes and profits have been trending steadily downward since peaking at around 2.9 million units in 2019. Perhaps not coincidentally “Flash Gorden” was bundled out of the side door by mutual consent on the 31st of January this year. Taking over his position is former AMG head of design Bastian Baudy, another Mercedes long termer. With that in mind another Wagener style step change in direction feels unlikely.

A strong brand is a deal – customer expectations being met by a company delivering on it’s promises. That is what customers pay a premium for. When you deviate so significantly from the values that made your company in the first place, those promises begin to sound a little hollow. If you put all your efforts into making shiny things for shiny people, you shouldn’t be surprised when they ditch you for the newest shiny thing that comes along.

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All Images: Mercedes Benz Media

 

 

 

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Acd
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Acd
2 days ago

Adrian, you are 100% spot on with this. Thank you!

Slower Louder
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Slower Louder
2 days ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

No you don’t. Such a good essay. First thing I do will be read it again.

Thomas The Tank Engine
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Thomas The Tank Engine
2 days ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

I have bookmarked and re-read plenty of your writing. Currently I’m reading your Ford Sierra article

Argentine Utop
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Argentine Utop
2 days ago

Masterclass

Stryker_T
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Stryker_T
2 days ago

the SLS was the first and pretty much only Merc that gives me the fizz.

their direction the last several years has really taken a dive and this new thing is really in the pit.
the CLA/EQ-whatevers straight up look like an early 2000s civic with cheap body kits

Albert Ferrer
Albert Ferrer
2 days ago
Reply to  Stryker_T

Yesterday night I saw one (I believe) while driving home. All I could see was headlamps and a massive grille full of illuminated little stars. I didn’t know what it was until I crossed paths with it.

Ghastly.

Nsane In The MembraNe
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Nsane In The MembraNe
2 days ago

1). Inject this article directly into my veins

2). “When you have a small screen, you automatically send the message ‘congratulations, you are sitting in a small car’.”

We live in hell

Albert Ferrer
Albert Ferrer
2 days ago

I like my small car thanks.

And what a world we live in, indeed.

Eric Gonzalez
Eric Gonzalez
2 days ago

What if you don’t have any screens? Your car doesn’t really exist?

Slow Joe Crow
Slow Joe Crow
2 days ago
Reply to  Eric Gonzalez

My Fiat 500 has no screen and is very small so maybe? On the other hand my F150 is 20′ long and also devoid of screens.

TheDrunkenWrench
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TheDrunkenWrench
2 days ago

I mean, my car is a Rover Mini and it has a very small screen on the 2000s era stereo. So maybe he’s right?

ClutchAbuse
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ClutchAbuse
2 days ago

The screen in my Silverado is pretty damn small.

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
1 day ago

My Honda Fit has the 3″x2″ Federally mandated backup camera screen, when not in reverse it shows time and radio station. I usually keep it showing a skeumorphic picture of an analog clock since it’s less distracting than the alternative of the scrolling radio metadata.

4moremazdas
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4moremazdas
2 days ago

Sacco was careful to ensure that no new model made the previous one look obsolete.

I think this mindset did a lot to set that peak era of Mercedes apart from today. Even the way they updated designs was with an eye toward making sure their previous customers were happy and taken care of.

Now, Mercedes wants you to feel like your 2 year old EQ-whatever-the-hell is obsolete and out of style as soon as possible so you’ll come in and get a lease on one of these abominations.

Horsew/Noname
Horsew/Noname
2 days ago

I didn’t understand the rancor until I saw the rear end. Carry on, lads.

Adam Rice
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Adam Rice
2 days ago

I can’t help but think of an anglerfish when I look at that front end.

Thomas Vanden Abeele
Thomas Vanden Abeele
2 days ago
Reply to  Adam Rice

Emperor Zurg from Toy Story for me!

96Z26
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96Z26
2 days ago

Great article, but how do you really feel?

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
1 day ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Slightly queasy from the fast food lunch discussion in the Slack?

Spopepro
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Spopepro
2 days ago

Maybe they’re getting carried away with racecar… the only time I’ve felt like this design language has worked is with the AMG GT3. But in that case, the front splitter does a lot to balance the overbite, the wide bodykit actually makes the fenders flow more smootly (especially the rear), and the big wheel vent breaks up the too long nose. It’s like they took some of the performance ideas and made them smash together, especially on the 4door.

Baker Stuzzen
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Baker Stuzzen
2 days ago

Fittingly for the world’s oldest car maker, 

That sounds like fighting words to a certain co-founder’s pet cause.

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
2 days ago

There’s an attractive car hiding a midcycle refresh worth of changes under that thing, but the changes I would make to get there would leave it even more generic looking.

The Bishop
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The Bishop
2 days ago
Reply to  Nlpnt

It’s a Taycan under there. Actually, the Taycan is the Camaro and this is the FIrebird Trans Am version. Look at those taillights.

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
2 days ago
Reply to  The Bishop

Taillights? Forgot to sign out of your alt again, Torch?

The Bishop
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The Bishop
2 days ago
Reply to  Nlpnt

Oh, damn; too late to delete it, too

TheDrunkenWrench
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TheDrunkenWrench
2 days ago
Reply to  The Bishop

I saw more Panamera, if you first used brake fluid as eye drops when sketching the design.

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
1 day ago

Instructions unclear, I used blinker fluid and am now developing retrofit star light clusters for W201s. And Kia K3s.

TheDrunkenWrench
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TheDrunkenWrench
1 day ago
Reply to  Nlpnt

Star light, star bright, first car I see tonight.

I wish I may, I wish I might, never see this horrible sight.

Data
Data
2 days ago

It took me a minute, but I now realize the grill reminds me of a grinning Totoro.

The Bishop
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The Bishop
2 days ago
Reply to  Data

No, HomeStar Runner’s Strong Bad

James McHenry
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James McHenry
2 days ago
Reply to  The Bishop

Not rectangular enough for Strong Bad. In fact I can’t think of a Homestar character that has an ovoid mouth.

Edit: I take that back, I just thought of one. And it’s technically Strong Bad, but isn’t, it’s his Anime Blue-haired counterpart, Stinkoman.

Last edited 2 days ago by James McHenry
D-dub
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D-dub
2 days ago
Reply to  The Bishop

Strongbad crossed with sad blobfish.

Last edited 2 days ago by D-dub
Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
2 days ago
Reply to  D-dub

And Emperor Zurg’s teeth

TheDrunkenWrench
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TheDrunkenWrench
2 days ago
Reply to  Data

Don’t you do Studio Ghibli dirty like that!

Bassracerx
Bassracerx
2 days ago

Flame suite on i think it’s neat. I think it’s clear that Mercedes is targeting a different demographic customer for the GT than say an S class customer and i think that’s fine. Its an ultra low production vehicle anyways so it not being everyone’s cup of tea is totally okay.

TheDrunkenWrench
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TheDrunkenWrench
2 days ago
Reply to  Bassracerx

I can’t stop them from targeting the Kick streaming “just a prank, bro” demographic, but I can certainly be mad about it.
It’s the ManoSphere’s version of “success”

Hangover Grenade
Hangover Grenade
2 days ago

I think in the 1970s and 1980s you bought a new Mercedes in spite of how they looked. The top tier engineering is what you were buying. The W123 was dated-looking the day it hit showroom floors. Not bad, but staid.

They did a complete 180. Now engineering takes a backseat to, uh, *checks notes* style.

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
2 days ago

And yet – their current version of “Style” isn’t even good.

Remove the badges, and what do you have left?
A Hyundai? 1990’s Ford? Changli?
Even BYDs look better than this.

I believe this is why they now throw more stars and emblems all over their cars than a cheap Louis Vuitton knock-off bag.
Because only then can you tell it’s a Mercedes.

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Cerberus
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Cerberus
2 days ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

Beat me to my comment!

Dave Larkman
Dave Larkman
2 days ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

A friend of mine counted something like 13 external AMG badges on his new company not-even-an-AMG Mercedes.

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
2 days ago
Reply to  Dave Larkman

“SEE Everyone! I paid EXTRA for this!!!”

Chris D
Chris D
15 hours ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

It could have been an AI hallucination of what a 2027 Mercedes 4-door sedan might look like. A human who would put something like this together should be hung, drawn and quartered.

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
2 days ago

Their one irrational indulgence was the barrel grille which they hung on to at least 20 years too long. And in the ’70s Detroit copied it shamelessly, but sometimes as part of a more cohesive whole than M-B did. Thinking of the Plymouth Volare in particular.

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
2 days ago
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The radiator grille with the star hood ornament is one of the things that made Mercedes-Benz styling unique and immediately identifiable for decades.
Now you can’t tell what brand the car is if not for the massive star in the grille – and everywhere else.
But now they’re trying to go back to that grille – but now in a grossly-oversized scale, yet still with a massive star in the center.
It’s like when Ralph Lauren decided that the polo player logo on his shirts was too small – and how ridiculous people looked with a polo player bigger than a passport on their chest.

Albert Ferrer
Albert Ferrer
2 days ago

While agree, the W123 is perhaps the least stylish of the classic Mercs.

But the rest are elegant masterpieces, even the later W124 and W201.

TheDrunkenWrench
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TheDrunkenWrench
2 days ago

Old Mercedes gave the impression of being an investment (even though cars never are) You could buy one, drive it for 20 years, and end up with more respect than you did when you first bought it.

New Mercedes gives the impression of “get a new Mercedes to match your new iPhone every 2 years!”

The epitome of disposable tech on 4 wheels.

Aaronaut
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Aaronaut
2 days ago

I’m also not a religious person, but: thank god for this article.

Chris D
Chris D
15 hours ago
Reply to  Aaronaut

While you are at it, you can curse Satan for this abomination of an automobile.

James McHenry
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James McHenry
2 days ago

“I feel so strongly that deep and simple is far more essential than shallow and complex.” – Fred Rogers

A quote I’ve always gotten behind. I know no-one would ever call a vintage Mercedes “simple,” but the styling truly was. The complexity was in its depths. Now these cars feel like Fast Fashion or post-music-video MTV, always chasing the new thing. It’s a skin-deep beauty (arguably) meant to grab the eyeballs for a fleeting moment. Controversy? Who cares? But you can’t keep that going forever. You run out of shock value eventually, especially when people figure out there’s nothing deeper there than a broken Mercedes. And that 280D that just passed you while you wait for AAA soldiers on without a care.

(Betcha weren’t expecting Mr. Rogers to show up on this site were ya?)

Albert Ferrer
Albert Ferrer
2 days ago
Reply to  James McHenry

I would say that in some aspects, if you peel away the “shell” (i.e., screens and whatnot) Mercedes-Benzes are still (mostly) excellent cars.

The diference is that now many cars have either completely caught up or offer something very close. So the difference is mostly in price not in outright ability.

It’s the same that happened with cars such as the DS or the 2CV. They were advanced and really superior (in some aspects) to thier contemporary counterparts. But after 70+ years of engineering development “conventionally-engineered” cars have caught up or even surpassed them with less complexity.

TheDrunkenWrench
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TheDrunkenWrench
2 days ago
Reply to  Albert Ferrer

Both my research in buying, and my conversations with Mercedes techs, says that they have not been excellent cars under the skin since about the early to mid 2010s.
Everything from interior finishes tarnishing, to seats tearing, to constant warranty work. In cars still within the first 12 months of ownership.

Albert Ferrer
Albert Ferrer
2 days ago

I have had recentish experience for about a year with a W206 C300 and realibility wise it was fine (except for one day when the battery went flat after being parked for a couple of weeks). The interior also held up well (and you can still get wood trim for the interior which is a plus in my book).

But the driving was fine, the voice recognition works well and the digital light headlapms are amazing. It was comfy, fast and not too bad on fuel. The only bad thing was weird jump between 4th and 5th.

Dave M.
Dave M.
2 days ago

Excellent article. MB lost my visual interest some time back in the ’90s, although I wouldn’t kick a 2015-16 E-Class out of bed.

Albert Ferrer
Albert Ferrer
2 days ago

Well. Couldn’t agree more with the entire article.

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
2 days ago

Wagener is working class guy who studied industrial design in his native Essen, a blue-collar town in the Ruhr Valley.”

“When you have a small screen, you automatically send the message ‘congratulations, you are sitting in a small car’.”

Yet more proof that you can take the boy out of the trailer, but you can’t take the trailer out of the boy.

Albert Ferrer
Albert Ferrer
2 days ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Hope it is with the proper Essex V6. Not one of the posh ones with the Germans engines.

Albert Ferrer
Albert Ferrer
2 days ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Actually I do too. I believe we didn’t get the 3.0 S in Spain anyway.

No Bodie and Doyle impersonation for you though.

LMCorvairFan
LMCorvairFan
2 days ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Starsky and Hutch,,, eep!

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
2 days ago
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Now I’m picturing The A-Team driving around in a white van.

Anonymous Person
Anonymous Person
2 days ago

We’re going to play a little guessing game. Next time you’re out on the road and you see a newish Mercedes Benz from the last decade or so, try to guess what model it is before you’re close enough to read the badge. I can almost guarantee you’ll get it wrong. Want to know why? Because they all look the fucking same

E-Class? EQE? EQS? Who the fuck knows?

100% This!

I gave up playing that stupid Cardle™ game because I got sick of getting Mercedes correct, and figuring out the age range by the lighting elements, but I kept getting every single Mercedes model wrong so I just gave up and eliminated the webpage from my usual sites.

And exterior looks-wise, they’ve all gone downhill since around 1962.

Peak Mercedes

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Albert Ferrer
Albert Ferrer
2 days ago

I still think the Pagoda is peaker Daimler. Or the perhaps the W111/112 coupés.

Anonymous Person
Anonymous Person
2 days ago
Reply to  Albert Ferrer

Where I live, I’ve never seen a Pagoda or a Mercedes W111/112. Most of the ones I’ve seen have the numbers first, followed by the letter. (190E, 250C, 450SL, etc.)

Mike F.
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Mike F.
2 days ago

Over the last several years, it seems to me that the cars of choice for the overly-entitled asshole driver have changed from BMWs to various models of Mercedes. Given the long slide from well engineered and unpretentious cars to garish designer hallucinations realized, it all makes perfect sense now.

And up until reading this, I had never seen that Virgil Abloh thing. I am fervently wishing for a time machine to take me back ten minutes so that I could cover the photo with my hand while scrolling down to read the article.

Albert Ferrer
Albert Ferrer
2 days ago
Reply to  Mike F.

That thing is indeed nightmarish.

Data
Data
2 days ago
Reply to  Mike F.

Agreed, I had to scroll back up and admire the Pagoda for a bit.

Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
2 days ago

Was very excited to click on this, as I’ve been hoping you would eviscerate it the moment I laid eyes on it. 10/10, did not disappoint.

I know we all get a little rabble-y here but in this case it’s warranted. This design sucks. And yeah, most Merc designs have sucked for a long while now.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
2 days ago

Shape-wise (at least not the rear-end) evokes a 1950-esque racing Mercedes Benz. Organic, and flowing.

What followed was a brutalist landscape of vertical grilles and blunt shapes.

This is a return to that earlier style era.

Baker Stuzzen
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Baker Stuzzen
2 days ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

…kind of? It is certainly a return to more organic shapes, and I don’t think anyone minds that. I still think the first CLS, SLS, and AMG GT are good-looking cars. Look at the pic of the AMG Vision Gran Turismo again though. Pull the greenhouse shape around a bit and you can pretty much make any new Mercedes design. The bigger problem is that this shared design doesn’t evoke what Mercedes says they are (and have been):

A sprawling range of identikit cars all with the same soft surfacing and oversized grilles festooned with Temu LED lighting do not speak softly to quality of engineering and longevity of service.

Mechjaz
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Mechjaz
2 days ago
Reply to  Baker Stuzzen

I think I described it in exactly those words – Temu LEDs. The light up emblems in the grilles don’t just look tacky, they look *bad*. As in technically deficient and not executed correctly.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
2 days ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

Yeah, this doesn’t just look cheap, it looks like disposable Dollar Store quality cheap, and it’s a $200k car from Merceds f’n Benz.

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
2 days ago
Reply to  Cerberus

Oh come on! Dollar Store stuff ain’t THAT bad!

No, this is old school five and dime store bad.

Last edited 2 days ago by Cheap Bastard
Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 day ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

Hey, I still have a rubber octopus from a 5&10 from the early ’80s! I doubt my niece’s Dumpling squishies will last that long.

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
1 day ago
Reply to  Cerberus

Oh the five and dimes had SOME decent stuff. I find Dollar store stuff in general to be of higher quality than the old five and dimes though. So good in fact it’s not that difficult to find stuff the same as if not identical to stuff in a *regular* store but for a much, much lower price.

Of course they do sell a lot of crap too but even that has a place.

488Magnum
488Magnum
2 days ago

all I see is a neon yellow dodge dart with a giant black binky with teeth on it.

ClutchAbuse
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ClutchAbuse
2 days ago

I used to see Mercedes and BMWs everywhere here in California. These days I’ll see maybe a smattering of BMWs through the week but not a single Mercedes that’s not at least 15 years old.

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
1 day ago
Reply to  ClutchAbuse

It doesn’t help that all the G wagons that are so popular here already looked old when they left the factory.

Jay Mcleod
Jay Mcleod
1 day ago
Reply to  ClutchAbuse

I see Mercs daily in my part of Calif, new and old, don’t know where you live but here in the central valley they are a deeply sought after flex.

But it’s an endless stream of Tesla pods that capture the attention nowadays.

Mechjaz
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Mechjaz
2 days ago

I’ve made it three paragraphs before you got a belly laugh out of me. You’ve been missed, but you coming back for this was worth it.

D-dub
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D-dub
2 days ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

It was Jesus 3 pointed Christ wasn’t it? Me too.

Mechjaz
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Mechjaz
2 days ago
Reply to  D-dub

Absolutely yes it was. The Jesus/Jesus H ______ Christ joke format gets me, and the more absurd the better.

Sorry, I would have replied sooner, but I cracked myself up another good 30 seconds picturing Buddy Christ tapdancing.

D-dub
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D-dub
2 days ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

Jesus 3 pointed Christ in a screed about a Mercedes is *chef’s kiss*

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