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Why Thousands Of Nissan, Stellantis, And Audi Workers Are Losing Their Jobs

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As some automakers feel the squeeze of demand falling short of supply due to a variety of internal reasons, a few are planning some serious downsizing, meaning some people working at Nissan, Audi, and Stellantis might not be working there for much longer. While not all of these people are getting laid off, this news just sucks both for those directly affected and those wanting to move into positions that may no longer exist.

Yes, headcount reductions are planned by multiple automakers, as several brands have found themselves in tight spots due to having to reap the shitty seeds they’ve sown. Guess who ends up with the short end of the stick in cases like these? That’s right, usually normal people. Expect thousands of workers in various parts of the globe to no longer be employed by these companies, although each seems to be going about things in a slightly different way. Oh, and Chinese automakers using Canada as a North American foothold? Yeah, that doesn’t seem to be happening anytime soon either.

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Matt’s left me in control of today’s issue of The Morning Dump, and while I wish I could serve you up something less gloomy, sometimes those are just the cards we’re dealt. So, grab a cup of coffee or tea, sit back, and get ready to sift through some bite-sized pieces of car news you might not want to read, but should probably know about. Can’t have dessert without eating your greens, right?

It’s Getting Brutal At Nissan

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As Automotive News reports, Nissan has been having a dismal stretch, and now it’s willing to do some drastic things in an attempt to escape the downward spiral. We’re talking about selling part of its stake in Mitsubishi, reducing production capacity, and laying off 9,000 employees. It’s a lot to digest, so let’s start with capacity.

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Nissan now wants to achieve a cost structure that will enable it to achieve profitability even at a global volume of 3.5 million vehicles. That is about 100,000 more than its current sales figure.

To get there, [CEO Makoto] Uchida wants to cut global capacity by 20 percent to bring its global production capacity of 5 million units more in line with its annual sales numbers.

That’s an aggressive target, and it won’t come without hardship. See, Nissan currently employs 133,580 people around the world, and under this plan, 9,000 of those jobs are getting cut. However, they might not all be getting cut rapidly, as some might be slowly packaged out.

Uchida declined to give a timeline for the payroll reductions or production cuts, or say where they would take effect. Some of the cutbacks would come through voluntary separation programs, as Nissan recently did by offering buyout packages to white collar workers in the U.S.

In addition to slicing its workforce and reducing its production capacity, Nissan reportedly plans on raising some money by selling about a third of its stake in Mitsubishi to…Mitsubishi?

The holding will be bought back by Mitsubishi and amounts to 10.02 percent of its total shares. Nissan said it was selling the stake to support Mitsubishi’s shareholder value strategy as well as to enhance “Nissan’s financial flexibility” and open the door to “growth opportunities.”

At the reported sale price of ¥460.6 ($3.24) per share, the disposal of the 149.03 million shares in Mitsubishi would net Nissan around ¥68.64 billion ($482.65 million).

First of all, it’s kind of amazing that Mitsubishi has $482.65 million to throw around at share buybacks. Secondly, oh how the tables turn. A few years ago, Mitsubishi was in a bad way, with a fuel economy scandal forcing the brand to cling to Nissan to survive. In the time since, Mitsubishi seems to have made out okay with Renault-Nissan platforms, and now Nissan’s the struggling brand.

This isn’t the first time Nissan’s had its back against the wall. Back in the late 1990s, Nissan was drowning in red ink, and it took Renault stepping in to save the firm. The bulk of the problem? As the Los Angeles Times reported in 1999:

“Nissan lost touch with the market,” said George Peterson, president of AutoPacific Inc. in Santa Ana and a former Nissan executive. “It became very conservative. Instead of being entrepreneurial, Nissan went into a shell.”

Indeed, over the past few years, we’ve seen similarly conservative product decisions from the brand. A massive EV lead largely squandered. Zero hybrids currently on sale in America. Aging platforms like the FM architecture under the new Z, or the F-Alpha platform underneath the Frontier, both dating back more than 20 years. Cuts and efficiencies are only one half of building a sustainable future — the other is product. While the incoming Rogue Hybrid and plug-in hybrid will likely help, there’s still a long way to go.

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It’s Getting Brutal At Audi

Audi S7 Nardo Sport Edition

Nissan isn’t the only automaker planning on laying off workers. According to Germany’s Manager Magazin, Audi is planning on cutting thousands of jobs outside the factory floor, in addition to its plans of closing a plant in Brussels and wiping out 3,000 jobs there. As the publication writes:

 In the medium term, the company says that jobs will be cut mainly in the indirect sector, with more than 2000 jobs at stake in development alone. Indirect sector means all those who do not work directly in production. According to Audi figures, there were around 30,000 in Germany at the end of June. The target in the indirect sector is a reduction of around 15 percent, according to Audi management. That would be around 4500 jobs in the indirect sector in Germany alone

For context, in this case, “indirect sector” workers include those in research and development roles — you know, the stuff people buy German luxury cars for. Interestingly though, Manager Magazin states “There are to be no layoffs,” which means its possible this shedding of jobs could be a slow burn as employees get packaged out or retire. So, where does the blame lie here? Well, between new models being held up by Volkswagen Group’s CARIAD software subsidiary, middling demand for some new electric models like the Q6, and reports of high-margin performance models having to be re-worked, it appears there’s lots of reprobation to go around, mostly in C-suites.

It’s Getting Even More Brutal At Stellantis

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Oh, and the bloodbath continues, this time at Stellantis. Last night, the Detroit Free Press reported that Stellantis is cutting a shift in its Toledo Assembly Complex, resulting in the layoffs of 1,100 union employees. Some Christmas present, huh?

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The automaker, which owns the Jeep, Ram, Chrysler, Dodge and Fiat brands, announced the job cuts Wednesday, which will be effective Jan. 5. It framed the layoffs as part of the effort to reduce its inventory levels, one of the many issues that have plagued the company this year.

The company said it has issued Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification notices to state and local governments as well as the UAW.

The Toledo Complex in Ohio builds the Jeep Gladiator and Wrangler, arguably the two most-Jeep Jeeps you can buy from a Jeep showroom. However, with strong pricing combined with added competition, these models haven’t exactly been shifting the way Stellantis hoped. Wrangler sales were down 14 percent in the third quarter compared to Q3 of 2023, while Q3 Gladiator sales were down a whopping 35 percent compared to Q3 of 2023. As such, it seems that Stellantis is cutting a shift in order to reduce inventory, but that rationale doesn’t make things any better for the 1,100 workers affected indefinitely.

BYD Pauses Its Canadian Plans

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A few months ago, Chinese automaker BYD was looking at sending affordable electric vehicles to Canada, and at the time, it made a ton of sense. Canada has an electrification mandate in place for 2035, the most popular passenger cars in the country are typically reasonably priced compacts, and cheap EVs need to come from somewhere, right? Well, that was before legislation broke out a big stick. As Automotive News reports, BYD has now hit freeze on its plans to sell cheap Chinese EVs in Canada. The only question now is, with tariffs announced months ago, what did it take so long for?

Over the summer, the company met with dealers across Canada on establishing a possible distribution network and engaged lobbyists to advise the federal and Ontario governments on the “expected market entry of BYD into Canada for the sale of passenger electric vehicles.”

But Ottawa’s move Aug. 26 to follow suit with the United States in imposing punishing tariffs on EV imports from China coincided with the end of BYD’s dialogue with government, public filings show. And talks with would-be distributors are now in a holding pattern, according to dealers and industry sources with knowledge of the matter, but who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Yeah, no kidding. Even in the case of dirt-cheap models like the Seagull, a 106 percent tariff would push pricing dangerously close to what shoppers on a budget are actually looking at — a damn used car. If you can live with a certain aroma, you can pick up a used Tesla Model 3 for the same price as a gently used Corolla, and that already comes with native access to the best coast-to-coast DC fast charging network in North America. Is there a non-zero chance a cheap Chinese EV could be better built than an early Model 3? Absolutely, but with a network of third-party spares for things like suspension components already built out, buying what’s already common makes sense.

What I’m Listening To While Writing TMD

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Look, it’s been a weird week, and when the going gets weird, the music does too. Thankfully, California-based duo The Hellp released a new album about two weeks ago, and it just hits the spot for weird new electroclash. There’s an undertone of anxiety to the slightly scatterbrained project called “LL”, with everything from New Rave to ambient to straight-up indie pop on the sonic palette. Here’s one of the more energetic tracks on the project, “Rllynice”.

The Big Question

With Nissan, Audi, and Stellantis all announcing workforce reductions, who’s next?

(Photo credits: Nissan, Audi, Jeep, BYD)

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Freelivin2713
Freelivin2713
24 days ago

“Can’t have dessert without eating your greens, right?”

“How can you have any pudding…
IF YOU DON’T EAT YOUR MEAT!”

Jatco Xtronic CVT
Jatco Xtronic CVT
25 days ago

Maybe if Nissan hadn’t started to move away from the Xtronic CVT, they’d be doing better…. just saying….

Kelly
Kelly
25 days ago

I’ve no ill will toward Audi, and my wife had a sentra a zillion years ago that served her very well so again, no ill will there at all.

Stellantis can die in a fire.

Sorry, not a ‘fire’, a meticulously curated immersive exothermic experience fitting a bespoke luxury lifestyle brand.

That will be $130k, please pull up to the 2nd window.

LastPickInGym
LastPickInGym
25 days ago
Reply to  Kelly

It’s okay to hate Stellantis, just don’t hate the brands and some of the greatness they now own (I love my Giulia for instance and many other products brought to us by Marchionne).

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
25 days ago

I wonder how close auto manufacturers payroll after the layoffs will be to their payroll prior to the latest union contract. Their are business models taught in business schools where in an industry you send x% of your cost on payroll, and x% on fixed costs, and x% on marketing etc. So when cost per employee goes up the amount of employees goes down. This law of business is as solid as the law of gravity.

LastPickInGym
LastPickInGym
25 days ago

Factory cost and corp OH are separate things in any business case I’ve ever come across. You always look to minimize DL and hit given metrics for gross margin aka factory profit. For corp OH+core EDD, that’s a fixed % of revenue and if your revenue drops that budget needs to drop or your factory profit will equal your corp costs and you’re operating margin will be zero.

Droid
Droid
26 days ago

who’s next?
Audi’s F1 team, that’s who’s next.
they’re not even competing until 2026 season…

DietersMagnificentStache
DietersMagnificentStache
26 days ago
Reply to  Droid

Yeah, it wouldn’t shock me to see them axe the F1 team. That’s a huge spend, and racing alongside marketing are two of the easiest and most common cost-reductions to make for automakers.

Strangek
Strangek
26 days ago

I’d be shocked, they just made the investment and even took over Sauber earlier than planned. I’m sure it’s expensive as hell, but that’s lots of eyes on the Audi brand on race weekends.

Dangerous_Daveo
Dangerous_Daveo
25 days ago

It is a huge spend, but since the cost caps and drive to survive, the competitive teams are worth billions. Audi has basically removed itself from all other motorsport which they have succeeded in every other category they have entered. They aren’t about to pull the pin without at least a decent crack at it, I think the stubbornness alone will keep them in it.

Also, marketing will be in the ear pointing out how many eyes will be on them. Marketing will always tell you marketing is the solution, and if they are any good at their job, they will be pretty convincing pointing that out.

I get they are two of the easiest places to reduce cost, but it will be in their mind that doing so can backfire spectacularly.

AMGx2
AMGx2
24 days ago

I think so too. The costs of the team are high but the returns will be there. Since F1 drives almost every 2 weeks of the year now (on average), there will be Audi branding going to hundreds of millions (?) of people those every 2 weeks. Add in all the promotion events where Hulkenberg and Bortoleto will be and you have a better marketing system than trying to buy ads on TV and the interwebs.

Teams like Williams and Red Bulls have far less benefit from being in F1 since they’re not selling cars, unlike Mercedes, McLaren, Ferrari, Aston Martin and now Sauber/Audi. Haas is another example. What benefit do they really get from being in F1? Almost nobody watching Haas is going to buy their CNC stuff. Everyone IN the CNC business already knows them and isn’t going to be convinced by a win or a loss in an F1 race to place an order.

Bre Rud
Bre Rud
26 days ago
Reply to  Droid

I wonder if the Andretti’s have Audi on their speed dial yet, or vise versa?

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
25 days ago
Reply to  Droid

Are there any studies done on how many car sales are a result of sports sponsorship? It is an owner ego thing. Millions for nothing and everyone else gets screwed.
I am real surprised at the ending no deserts without eating your greens. My generation would go with how can you get any pudding when you haven’t eaten your meat?

Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
25 days ago

I’ve asked myself the same thing. I get it back in the older days of NASCAR when something sort of resembling a “stock car” was going around the oval. There weren’t the million advertising outlets you see today, so there was an opportunity there for manufacturers to show their cars off to eyeballs watching on TV. I’d bet they actually did sell Chargers, Superbirds, Regals, etc. because someone saw it be competitive at Daytona. But today NASCAR runs cars with no connection to what you can “buy on Monday” besides the name they slap on the shell. So who cares?

F1 or other open wheel racing? If Ferrari quit F1, would they not have a line of rich people buying every car they make? I doubt it would make a difference. If Audi wins, does anyone decide to buy an A4 instead of a BMW 330i because of it? Highly doubtful.

Maybe if I started a new McLaren type group to sell expensive sports cars like Ferrari, I’d have a dream of going to F1 and competing with the old guard to prove I have it. But Audi doesn’t even make a real sports car anymore.

AMGx2
AMGx2
24 days ago
Reply to  Vic Vinegar

I think you understand the value of the brand Ferrari, Aston Martin, Mercedes and McLaren and I do think BMW (and Porsche etc) is missing out on not being in F1. The ‘new’ F1 is for the elite. Those visit the races or events around them and there is where the ‘normal’ cars are being shown. Mercedes GTs, McLaren MPsomethings, Ferrari <everything> and Aston Martin <everything>. There is a reason why the DBX is the safety car. It adds a ton of money to those brands.

I always thought BMW should be in F1, not sure why they aren’t, I think it’s because they aren’t a true driving brand anymore and instead cater to people who don’t mind to drive in forward driven underpowered German cars with oversized grilles that look like a beaver. BMW doesn’t have a AMG GT equivalent, nor has it the Audi “RS” magnet, besides some very specific M models (I do see the M3 and M4 on track days, but they’re much more rare than fast Audi saloons or Porsches and more exotics).

Then again, the chances for Audi to be even near the points in 2026 with the new regulations are low.

Andiamo345
Andiamo345
26 days ago

I think the problem with Stellantis is all due to the “ducking” of all the jeeps. Do you really want to drive around with a million rubber ducks on your Dashboard?

Strangek
Strangek
26 days ago
Reply to  Andiamo345

What is up with this rubber duck trend? It’s starting to drive me crazy because I don’t understand what’s going on with that. Is it some internet thing that I missed or what?

Strangek
Strangek
26 days ago
Reply to  Ben

Well that’s stupid.

Andiamo345
Andiamo345
25 days ago
Reply to  Strangek

Exactly

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
25 days ago
Reply to  Strangek

Welcome to the 21st century. It is hokier than Buck Rodgers starring Gil Gerard and the beautiful Coronel Wilma Dearing. I’d follow her into battle.

Kelly
Kelly
25 days ago
Reply to  Andiamo345

I know you’re not serious, but I did scratch the wrangler from my list of potential ‘toy with a manual transmission’ list just because of the duck thing. If the culture has fallen that far into nonsense land (my last wrangler was an ’06 so I’m sorta out of it) I want no part of it.

Andiamo345
Andiamo345
25 days ago
Reply to  Kelly

It’s a shame as there are so few toys with manual transmissions to be had. I already was more inclined to sports car toy vs. Offroad toy, but if I was in the market for one it would be a turnoff.

JP15
JP15
26 days ago

First of all, it’s kind of amazing that Mitsubishi has $482.65 million to throw around at share buybacks. Secondly, oh how the tables turn. A few years ago, Mitsubishi was in a bad way, with a fuel economy scandal forcing the brand to cling to Nissan to survive.

People forget how enormous Mitsubishi Motors is outside of the US. Mitsubishi Motors by itself is expected to have $18B in revenue in 2024, and that’s not even remotely factoring the $32B revenue Mitsubishi Heavy is expected to make.

The way the various Mitsubishi Group companies operate is very convoluted and confusing (I work for one of them), but it’s pretty common for them to shift money around between their sub-companies as needed.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
26 days ago
Reply to  JP15

Of course, Mitsubishi Heavy owns less than 1.5% of Mitsubishi Motors at this point, and even with dumping 10% of their shares, Nissan will still remain by far the largest shareholder, but Mitsubishi Group companies dominate in fragmentary ways, including through some large bank-managed trusts that are probably really them

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
25 days ago
Reply to  JP15

They made billions stuffing CVTs down our throats and refusing repair or upgrade. Cheaper to bribe than fix.

Fasterlivingmagazine
Fasterlivingmagazine
26 days ago

If mitsubishi can afford to use 482 million to buy some of itself back, im sure theres some money left over for the development of an evo 11.

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
26 days ago

rebadge the Megane RS, and there is your Evo 😀

Manuel Verissimo
Manuel Verissimo
25 days ago
Reply to  Dogisbadob

Dude, the Mégane RS is no more 🙁

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
25 days ago

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 🙁

SNL-LOL Jr
SNL-LOL Jr
25 days ago

Well the Outlander is still around. Just sayin’

Ryan L
Ryan L
26 days ago

It always kind of amazes me to read on sites like this that people are shocked about Mitsubishi. It’s the least shocking thing to me that a car company that makes a lower cost alternative is doing okay because of course they are.

Unfortunately the MBAs that run the rest of these companies seem fit to keep prices high and sell less volume. It’s a viable short term solution I guess. I’m not so sure that long term it’s a great one as it surely is pushing more and more households from 2 car ones to 1 car + alternate transportation households.

PlugInPA
PlugInPA
26 days ago
Reply to  Ryan L

The ebike is the new beater.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
25 days ago
Reply to  Ryan L

Well it worked for Cadillac for over 100 years. It is the pursuit of quarterly profit and bonuses. Short term thinking hurts long term success. Not the only issue but yes a well built comfortable reliable over built car can succeed along side a cheap reliable accessory and comfort free car. You can have trucks and cars side by side but when you try to expand the market too far? Failure.

Ryan L
Ryan L
25 days ago

Sure but General Motors produces the Chevy Trax in addition to Cadillac. That’s diversification the way I look at it.

I see moving prices north, cutting volume and then having nothing to offer in low cost space like Jeep for instance in the RAV4 or CRV market as basically putting all your eggs in one basket which typically is seen as a more risky option.

AssMatt
AssMatt
26 days ago

Kultur Shock! My guitar used to share a rehearsal space with them. Haven’t head that name in ages, thanks for the rabbithole tip!

Drive By Commenter
Drive By Commenter
26 days ago

VW. They majorly whiffed the Buzz rollout here in the States. Localizing production in Chattanooga would have likely made it a little cheaper from reduced freight costs. Plus likely being eligible for the $7500 tax credit without leasing.

PlugInPA
PlugInPA
26 days ago

Making global supply chains substantially more expensive with tariffs should pull these companies out of the slump.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
25 days ago
Reply to  PlugInPA

As long as Ford doesn’t screw up their rollouts like usual.

Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
26 days ago

From my perspective, those are brands where I’d be hard pressed to consider buying anything they make. So is it that surprising to me they are struggling? Nope.

Nissan is just a pile of “meh”. No hybrids, but I guess if the Pathfinder was cheap enough maybe I take a look at it. Don’t see anything else in the lineup for me. I also wonder how much of an anchor Infiniti is to the bottom line. I legitimately forget Infiniti exists and I read car sites in my free time.

Audi is bland and not worth the cost of admission for either purchase price or maintenance. I used to look forward to possibly buying a S4/S5. Now that I possibly could consider that, they are just…snooze. If I am going to roll the dice on a German brand, I’d rather get a BMW or Mercedes. Or just spend less on a GTI.

And Stellantis….I wish they had better quality or I might consider a Pacifica. Most of the rest of their lineup seems woefully overpriced, even if they were better cars. $60k for a Grand Cherokee? Come on.

Who is next? Probably VW. And Subaru better hurry up and get a hybrid out there.

I think brands like Subaru and Honda have probably benefited from the fact Toyota cannot meet demand for its hybrids. So you shop for a Sienna or Highlander, eventually give up because Toyota dealers are garbage and there are no cars to buy, and then you head over to Honda to get an Odyssey or Subaru for an Outback.

ChefCJ
ChefCJ
26 days ago
Reply to  Vic Vinegar

I legitimately forget Infiniti exists and I read car sites in my free time”
Brutal take, but 100% correct

Data
Data
26 days ago
Reply to  ChefCJ

I live in Memphis. I see Infiniti everywhere. I think it’s what Altima drivers move up to based on how I see them driving; Big Altima Energy.

Drew
Drew
26 days ago
Reply to  Data

But you can see them everywhere and still forget, since they may as well all be Altimas.

Davey
Davey
26 days ago
Reply to  Vic Vinegar

Lack of hybrids from any company now is baffling, they had YEARS of numerous ‘oil crisis events’ to develop these, and somehow there’s only 1 hybrid trucklet and no hybrid midsize truck? let em rot

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
26 days ago
Reply to  Davey

Memories are short.

I have money today, so I buy a truck.

And I forget that I had no money yesterday

Tomorrow when I have no money again, I’ll complain about fuel costs of the truck.

Repeat.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
25 days ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

Genius take

JP15
JP15
26 days ago
Reply to  Vic Vinegar

Or just spend less on a GTI.

Yeah, this is a good take. “S” cars aside, you’re getting the same engines between VW and Audi, and so much of the Audi tech has trickled down to VW, I don’t see much need to pay more for an Audi.

If I’m getting crappy VAG reliability regardless, why pay more up front?

Der Foo
Der Foo
26 days ago
Reply to  Vic Vinegar

You nailed that last paragraph. I was shopping for a Highlander Hybrid AWD, but availability was very constrained in my market and the dealers priced them like they were one-off customs (considering the dealer adds, that sorta was true). Ended up at Subaru.

Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
26 days ago
Reply to  Der Foo

I’ve been waiting for a Grand Highlander. Eventually I’ll get tired of waiting.

Der Foo
Der Foo
26 days ago
Reply to  Vic Vinegar

That is my wife’s #1 on her list of possibles. We are about 6 months to a year from our next purchase.

I’m hoping inventory levels rise before then, but I think it is more likely Trump will appoint Nancy Pelosi as Secretary of State before Toyota decides to make a sufficient number of vehicles to meet demand.

Peter d
Peter d
25 days ago
Reply to  Vic Vinegar

Infiniti is truly lost, unfortunately. They used to make cars the compared favorably to BMWs but at a much lower cost and better reliability. I keep driving my mother’s G37x not only because it reminds me of her but because it is fun to drive, has had few problems, and because the tech just works (I am pleasantly surprised how advanced this car was for its time – the infotainment does everything you want short of CarPlay – and if you want that you can get an aftermarket interface).

If they put a v6 and a real transmission in the QX50 and included some free maintenance I might be interested – but it is priced like an X3 (before incentives) which is the better choice.

Paul B
Paul B
26 days ago

My guess it that it’s the Mitsubishi Group buying the shares and not Mitsubishi Motors itself.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
26 days ago
Reply to  Paul B

No, it is Mitsubishi Motors, the press release is up on their website as of this morning

Old Fart Parts Guy
Old Fart Parts Guy
26 days ago

What do all these car companies announcing layoffs have in common? They all built junky cars that won’t last longer than the payment book. People need dependable reliable quality cars they can count on to get back and forth to work shop and do errands. It seems only three car companies can do it right Toyota Honda and Ford. Maybe Mazda.

Davey
Davey
26 days ago

It varies though- you can have the same vehicle and it wont last as long in Ontario through brutal winters as it would in Arizona. None of my Ford’s have been reliable or made it to 200,000klms while the Toyota’s we’ve had all made it much longer/needed less repairs over the same timeframe and environment. YMMV.
Every car company has recalls and issues, but some are better at rectifying it than others and from my experience with Ford vs. Toyota; parts are not made equal. Bearings or bushings in our Toyota’s didn’t get replaced until over 220,000klms, while all of those were replaced before 180,000klms in our Ford’s.

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
26 days ago

Ford – No.
Mazda – Yes.
Toyota & Honda – Sometimes.

MEK
MEK
26 days ago

I’m sorry, I must have misread… did you say ‘Ford’? The undisputed King of Recalls? Maker of the 3-cyl turbo which eats it’s oil pump belts? Maker of the PowerShift auto that was so bad it basically killed off the Focus/Fiesta line completely in the US? Maker of Triton engines that fired their sparkplugs through through the hood? That Ford?

MegaVan
MegaVan
26 days ago
Reply to  MEK

But to be fair they fixed the Triton by making it impossible to remove the spark plugs with anything other than a 15 ton crane.

Fix it by making it worse.

Jonee Eisen
Jonee Eisen
26 days ago

The two least reliable cars I’ve ever had were a Ford and a Toyota. Somehow I managed to get the worst Camry ever built. But my Audi A4 was a tank that was trouble-free forever.

Alexk98
Alexk98
26 days ago

Who’s next for layoffs? VW, absolutely no question about it. They’ve been on the brink of reckoning for a few years now, but their model momentum has stalled, and they’re left with a sub-par ID lineup, and aging and uncompetitive ICE vehicles with no Hybrids. VW is going to have a deeply painful 6-9 months ahead.

Squirrelmaster
Squirrelmaster
26 days ago
Reply to  Alexk98

This is my guess too. I was honestly surprised to see Audi doing workforce reductions before, and not with, VW.

No Kids, Just Bikes
No Kids, Just Bikes
26 days ago
Reply to  Alexk98

VW is the easy answer here.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
26 days ago
Reply to  Alexk98

Yeah it is going to be the rest of VW shortly, I expect they will go to whatever lengths they need to to avoid completely closing any facilities within Germany, but it does mean the German workforce will still be cut and any VW plants outside Germany are potentially at risk- even if their numbers look OK, sacrifices will be made to avoid shutdowns at home

Eggsalad
Eggsalad
26 days ago

Never fails. “We need to cut costs” always translates to “We need to cut production line workers” and NEVER “Maybe we can find a CEO that will work for less than $30 million a year”.

Pupmeow
Pupmeow
26 days ago
Reply to  Eggsalad

True story. About a decade ago my employer announced a massive layoff. I was young and fresh and silly, so at a town hall I raised my hand asked if there had been any discussion of curbing executive compensation, since CEO comp was about 300X the average engineer’s. Our North American president laughed out loud to the room of several hundred people and said no, they did not discuss that. Very educational moment.

Angry Bob
Angry Bob
26 days ago
Reply to  Pupmeow

Your post reminds me of hearing the CEO of a company I worked for tell everyone at an all hands meeting that there would be no pay raises for the following year. After the meeting I saw him drive off in his brand new Dodge Viper GTS.

Drew
Drew
26 days ago
Reply to  Angry Bob

When I started at my current workplace, the CEO usually drove an older Subaru and parked out in the far lots, despite the other execs driving luxury vehicles and parking them in the dedicated VIP parking.

He threw a wrench in your game, but he was a rare one. The current CEO has a driver and sits in the back of a Wagoneer or something.

Healpop
Healpop
26 days ago
Reply to  Drew

I take that as a good sign of leadership. Previous CEO at our company drove an old expedition, current leadership drives the same cars as the sales force. I know they have big boats and can probably afford something much nicer but don’t show it off at the office. It’s a little thing, but it gets noticed.

Drew
Drew
26 days ago
Reply to  Healpop

Absolutely. And it usually carries over to attitudes, too. The old CEO was also big on the rules applying to everyone. If the workers have to keep their badge on and visible, so do the execs. And he kept his door open and spoke to people as equals, not subordinates.

Pupmeow
Pupmeow
26 days ago
Reply to  Drew

He gets driven around in a Wagoneer? You must work in Detroit?

Drew
Drew
26 days ago
Reply to  Pupmeow

Nah, I’m in Idaho. And I haven’t put eyes on the vehicle, so it’s possible I’ve been given incorrect info by people who aren’t into cars. It’s definitely an unnecessarily large SUV. That much is certain.

Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
26 days ago
Reply to  Drew

Last time I worked for someone, the company’s top 2 guys drove decade-old Lexus LS and BMW 740. I know the Lexus was bought used, because he bought it when I was there. So nice cars, but not “too nice” that it seemed like they just hoarded all the profit for their own pocket.

Pupmeow
Pupmeow
26 days ago
Reply to  Angry Bob

Haha, at my former company it was really easy because there was an “executive parking lot” that led to the “executive entrance.”

Now I know it’s a huge red flag if the company has special areas where only the (self-)important people can go.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
25 days ago
Reply to  Angry Bob

What irks me is that people give grief over the manager who pulls into the parking lot in a shiny Audi Q5 for going fancy, but no one seems to batt an eye at the shop guy getting a new F150 (which, deep down, you know cost far more than the Audi).

Squirrelmaster
Squirrelmaster
26 days ago
Reply to  Pupmeow

I had a similar experience when I was young, and asked the Senior VP of Operations what was being done about culling the poor upper leadership that led to the stalling business that required layoffs. His glare said I was next in the layoff queue, yet surprisingly I wasn’t let go. The SVP of Ops, along with two other VPs were let go not too long after, but only because the CEO blamed them for him missing his bonus targets and losing out on millions. It was a highly educational moment for me as well, and I departed for a much better opportunity shortly thereafter.

Der Foo
Der Foo
26 days ago
Reply to  Pupmeow

Way back when I worked for a major computer company, their layoffs seemed to coincide with building remodeling. The remodeling could easily be argued as highly optional. Come one day there is this huge meeting with the company head and execs and a metric ton of employees. One employee asked why the perfectly good bathrooms were being remodeled while for months layoffs were happening. The employee ranked up to “Legendary” status overnight, but was surprisingly let go within 6 months. Years later, every time there were layoffs, they repainted the entire interior of our buildings. In the late 2000s, they continuously repainted the interior of our buildings. Must have been 4 coats in 2.5 years. Maybe they hoped the paint fumes would keep us so high, we wouldn’t care how bad the company was doing.

Pupmeow
Pupmeow
26 days ago
Reply to  Der Foo

Lay offs b/c the CEO is super into interior design is a new one for me. Impressive!

Der Foo
Der Foo
26 days ago
Reply to  Pupmeow

I’m sure there is some sorta of coincidence that can be drawn knowing that his brother and mother owned the buildings that his company used.

Spikersaurusrex
Spikersaurusrex
26 days ago
Reply to  Eggsalad

What’s not covered here, but covered elsewhere, is that the CEO of Nissan is taking a 50% pay cut. Not sure if that only applies to base pay, but it’s something.

Parsko
Parsko
26 days ago

Lol, don’t defend him.

Spikersaurusrex
Spikersaurusrex
26 days ago
Reply to  Parsko

I’m not defending anyone. I don’t know how much his salary is or what it consists of. It may still be a ridiculous amount. But it is an example of the CEO sharing some of the pain. I understand it’s an exceedingly rare thing and I agree with Eggsalad’s point that it’s the workers who bear the brunt of any costs to fix management’s missteps.

Parsko
Parsko
26 days ago

I reread this, sorry. The CEO of Nissan, or Carlos?? If it’s the CEO of Nissan, that’s a good move. I doubt Carlos would do it.

Spikersaurusrex
Spikersaurusrex
26 days ago
Reply to  Parsko

It’s the CEO of Nissan. I don’t remember his name, but it’s definitely Japanese, and not Carlos (Ghosn nor Tavares).

Parsko
Parsko
25 days ago

That makes sense. I feel like the culture would drive that choice.

Fix It Again Tony
Fix It Again Tony
25 days ago

657 million yen was his pay last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8_57lKSoUQ&t=122s

Last edited 25 days ago by Fix It Again Tony
SNL-LOL Jr
SNL-LOL Jr
25 days ago

That’s $4.3M. Which isn’t outrageous.

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