Home » I Took A Close Look At The 2023 Ford Maverick Tremor’s Off-Road Hardware. Here’s What I Learned

I Took A Close Look At The 2023 Ford Maverick Tremor’s Off-Road Hardware. Here’s What I Learned

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Ford let me have a first-look at the 2023 Ford Maverick Tremor, the most off-road capable version of the Ford Escape platform-based Maverick minitruck. Though I wasn’t able to drive it, I crawled around underneath the small unibody pickup; here’s how I — an experienced off-roader — think it will handle on the trails.

Ford had a Maverick Tremor set up at Michigan’s Holly Oaks ORV Park — a relatively new off-road park that was long overdue, as Detroit-based manufacturers lacked local spots outside of their proving grounds to test vehicles’ off-road capabilities — as part of a “Maverick Content Capture” opportunity for journalists. Basically, FoMoCo wants to keep the buzz going until people can start ordering these in September before theoretically taking delivery at some point this fall. I was glad to check out the little truck, because I’m a big fan of the base Maverick; an off-road model does have me a bit intrigued.

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Anyway, let’s get straight to it.

Geometry

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If you’ve read any of my off-road reviews, then you’ve seen this phrase before: “Geometry is king.” All of my off-road analyses begin with with these words because a vehicle’s inches and angles represent the most important factor in determining its offroad capability. For a vehicle to be good off-road, it needs small front and rear overhangs, a small (but not too small) belly between its two axles, and plenty of ground clearance in the right locations. A vehicle can have all the locking differentials and mud-terrain tires and skid plates and low range gearing it wants, but if it can’t get its front tires onto an obstacle without bashing the front bumper, if it can’t crest a hill without getting the belly hung up, if it can’t climb or descend a grade without dragging the rear end, and if it can’t avoid getting hung up on rocks and stumps due to ground clearance issues, then it’s pretty useless in the rough stuff.

Approach, Departure, Breakover Angles

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Already, since we’re talking about a pickup truck, we have to lower the bar of acceptability for the Maverick. Due to the need to package at least a 4.5 foot bed along with a four-door cab (since regular cabs are hard sells these days), it’s difficult for a pickup truck to offer truly impressive breakover and departure angles; even the Wrangler-based Jeep Gladiator struggles in these areas when compared to SUVs like the Ford Bronco and Jeep Wrangler. So the Maverick isn’t teed up to excel in this area.

Still, its 30.7 degree approach angle is excellent. That’s higher than that of the decently-capable Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk (arguably the king of off-road crossovers, which are probably more likely to be cross-shopped with the Maverick Tremor than other pickups), and frankly, it’s the most important of the off-road angles. Once you’ve gotten those front tires onto an obstacle, you can use momentum to drag the belly and rear end over, leveraging the skid plates and rear hitch to prevent major damage.

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The 19.9 degree breakover angle isn’t great, which again, isn’t a surprise since the Maverick is a pickup. But add the fact that this pickup is based on a unibody crossover platform from the Escape, and you end up with a fairly low-hanging body that, because it’s now a truck, has to be rather long. It is worth noting that Ford’s own Explorer Timberline (which I drove off-road a few months back; it was just okay) has a one degree lower breakover angle, and the F-150 lightning — a full-size truck — also has a more vulnerable belly at 17.6 degrees (but of course, it has a giant battery hanging off the frame). Plus, the base model four-door Wrangler’s breakover angle isn’t much better at 20.3. So the Maverick’s figure, while less than optimal, isn’t leagues worse than everything else.

As for that 22.2 degree departure angle? Well, again, this ain’t great. In fact, it’s not that easy to find an off-road-oriented vehicle with a lower figure than that. The huge Grand Wagoneer with the base, non-air springs has worse breakover and departure angles (at 18.5 and 21.1, respectively); so does the Toyota Rav4 TRD Off-Road. So the Maverick isn’t literally the worst, but suffice it to say: That belly and especially that rear end are going to be the Maverick’s main off-road limitations.

Ground Clearance (Which is related to Approach, Departure, and Breakover Angles)

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So the Maverick Tremor has a legitimately good approach angle, which is more important than the breakover and departure angles, which aren’t good. But 9.4 inches of ground clearance is good!  (The Tremor is raised an inch over the FX4; its suspension is a bit softer than that of other Mavericks for improved off-road ride, though the suspension change did limit the towing capacity to 2,000 pounds – other Mavericks can tow up to 4,000). Well, yes, that figure is great compared to the competitive set, but the absolute minimum ground clearance figure doesn’t tell the whole story of how well a vehicle can avoid getting hung up. The location of the ground clearance matters, too.

Take the Jeep Cherokee XJ, which I consider one of the most perfect four-door vehicles ever from an off-road geometry standpoint; from the factory, it has a ground clearance rating of less than nine inches. The Maverick Tremor has it beat. But that point of lowest clearance is at the differentials, right between the wheels of each axle. Since off-roading involves placing your tires strategically atop the tallest obstacles on the trail, those differentials tend to be picked up to the point where they clear most danger. The Maverick’s point of lowest ground clearance is possibly also between the wheels of each axle, but the lower front fascia and the rocker panels aren’t much higher (whereas on the Jeep, they’re raised way above nine inches).

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The issue with that is that getting those tires onto an obstacle is key, and when a wheel comes down from, say, a large rock, even if the hardware between the wheels has been lifted up over the obstacle, the truck  — specifically the rocker panels, which are just aft of the tires — will want to come down on top of the rock. Low rocker panels are a huge hindrance to a vehicle’s off-road capability, and it’s really unfixable unless you chuck a giant lift on the truck (which, given the Maverick’s independent suspension, isn’t feasible). Adding rock rails to protect the rockers would reduce the ground clearance even further to the point where it wouldn’t be worthwhile. So this is just a limitation that Maverick Tremor drivers will have to deal with.

Underbody Protection

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One way to mitigate the deleterious off-road effects of less-than-optimal geometry is to make sure that any vulnerable bits are well protected. On that front, the Maverick Tremor does have some protection in the form of skid plates, but is vulnerable in a number of other areas, as I found after crawling in the sand to get a good look underneath. Let’s start up front and work our way back.

As you can see at the nose, there’s quite a bit of plastic down low and vulnerable, which isn’t ideal (you’d rather have that nose up off the ground a bit more), but at least it’s black plastic, so scratches shouldn’t be nearly as obvious as if it were a painted part, and replacing it should be much cheaper.

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I will mention that, up front just ahead of the charge air cooler, are four skinny grille “bars” that look about as strong as stale McDonalds french fries.

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Heading farther underneath, I noticed that the joint between the bottom of that plastic front fascia and the underbody saw a bit of damage on the preproduction truck I was looking at, but aft of that was a large steel skid plate that protects the (transverse) engine, the eight-speed automatic transmission, the steering rack, and likely also the Power Transfer Unit (which is similar to a transfer case on a traditional 4×4). Here’s another look:

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Much of the Maverick Tremor’s underbody is covered by fibrous shields, which offer aerodynamic advantages as well as acoustic improvements and some amount of dent mitigation. They are, however, prone to both trapping dirt and tearing. Here you can see some tears in the material:

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And here you can see how it traps dirt up against the body. This doesn’t seem optimal from a rust mitigation standpoint, but I won’t pretend to know more about that than Ford engineers, who I’m sure put this thing through all sorts of saline baths.

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The Maverick’s fuel tank is hard to see, as it’s hidden by one of the aforementioned underbody shields. Whether it’s protected via any sort of metal skidplate underneath, I’m unsure, but I don’t think so, as the Maverick Tremor is said to have the same underbody protection treatment as the Maverick FX4, and — per Motor Trend — it’s got just “a front bash plate, engine skid, and charcoal canister shield.” So pretty much that front part of the vehicle where the engine, transmission, and steering system are is armored while the rest of the vehicle isn’t.

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The aluminum rear drive unit certainly isn’t  protected:

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Well, I guess it is somewhat protected by the exhaust, which — particularly where it runs under the rear subframe — is rock-bait:

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To be fair to the rear-drive unit and exhaust (and those low-hanging stamped lower control arms, for that matter) — and to reiterate a point I made earlier — that area between the wheels is one that an experienced driver should be able to keep off the ground by making sure the wheels drive up over obstacles instead of straddling those obstacles.

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Overall, I think the two main areas I’d be concerned about while off-roading are the areas that tend to see the most damage as the result of marginal breakover and departure angles. Sure, the exhaust and fuel tank could take a few hits, but it’s the rockers and the rear bumper that tend to suffer the most as a result of a big belly and a big arse. A less-than-stellar departure angle can sometimes be aided by a trailer hitch that one can just drag on a slope or rock, but the Mavericks’ hitch is integrated up into the bumper, so actually the lowest bit that would impact the terrain is the lower plastic part of the rear bumper, which I’d be concerned about damaging or tearing off.

As for the breakover angle concern, well, you can see what happens when you’ve got rockers that sit so low:

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Luckily, the black plastic hides the damage fairly well when viewed from a distance.

Gearing, Grip

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Let’s talk a bit about the drivetrain, starting with the most important bit: the tires. They’re ~29-inch Falken Wildpeak A/Ts, which tend to offer a good blend of off-road capability and on-road comfort (these are the AT3Ws, which I don’t think I’ve tested, but I do have experience with similar Falken Wildpeak A/Ts). I haven’t driven the truck to test the grip, but these seem like a good choice for a factory tire, and should offer plenty of traction on dirt and rock trails, and okay grip in mud.

Getting torque to those wheels shouldn’t be much of a problem, as the Maverick leverages a four-wheel drive layout heavily based on that of the Ford Bronco Sport (see diagram below — ignore the percentages in parentheses), with a twin-clutch read drive unut (RDU) that offers an axle “lock” mode for the two rear wheels. It’s not a true “locker” like what the Bronco or other Tremor F-series trucks have, so its torque limits are going to be lower, but the system should ensure that, unlike in a traditional open differential, even when one rear wheel has little grip torque can get to the opposite wheel to keep the vehicle moving.

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You’ll notice in the diagram above a “PTU with disconnect clutch” hooked up to the transmission. This device, like a traditional transfer case, is where power is split to the front and rear wheels. The disconnect clutch allows the rear drivetrain (the bits denoted by the dotted lines) to be disconnected so the Maverick can drive in just front-wheel drive mode for maximum efficiency. (I’m assuming the clutches in the RDU disconnect the rear wheels from the rear driveshaft so that the latter isn’t spun unnecessarily while in front-drive mode).

This PTU disconnect clutch can be “locked” so that the vehicle doesn’t switch to front-drive mode when, say, the driver is off-road and wants to ensure torque gets to that rear axle. Here’s the four-wheel drive lock button, just to the left of the rear axle “lock” switch:

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Also shown in this switch panel is the “Tremor” off-road mode button, which allows the drive to choose between “pavement, mud, sand or snow, and towing.” The system’s job is to make sure the drivetrain is optimized for different conditions where different amounts of wheel spin/torque transfer might be needed for different scenarios. To the right of that is the traction control button, and to the right of that is Ford’s Trail Control switch, which is basically off-road cruise control. Ford tends to do an excellent job calibrating this based on my experience testing other vehicles, making it easy to slowly cruise down the trail without having to give too much pedal input.

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The Trail Control option is especially helpful since the Maverick Tremor, like the Bronco Sport, doesn’t have a low-range option to multiply engine torque. With a 4.69-to-one first gear and 3.81-to-one final drive ratio, the vehicle ends up multiplying the 2.0-liter turbocharged inline-four engine’s considerable 277 lb-ft of torque by only up to a factor of 18. As I found with the Baby Bronco, this crawl ratio isn’t enough to get the vehicle up and over difficult obstacles at extremely low speeds in a controllable manner; crawling the Maverick Tremor over steep and technical courses will likely require a decent amount of left foot braking. This is hardly a surprise, as a Ford rep told me at the preview that the Maverick Tremor isn’t really meant for rock crawling.

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Where the Maverick Tremor could do reasonably well is in sand driving, where there aren’t big rocks threatening to scar up those rocker panels, and the changes in slope aren’t as likely to get the belly or rear end hung up. The 250 horsepower, 277 lb-ft motor should offer enough grunt to sling the vehicle up grades; the gearing could still be an issue in some scenarios, and my early experience with the Bronco Sport does give me pause about the vehicle’s thermal robustness (though, unless I’ve missed it, I haven’t heard of many customer complaints regarding the four-wheel drive system getting too hot, so maybe it’s not a big deal), but I bet throwing this thing around some dunes or up some steep not-too-rocky grades could be fun. I wish the Tremor came with a camera up front like many off-road vehicles so I can see what’s ahead when I’m cresting a grade, but this is less important on a smaller vehicle like the Maverick than on the high-hood Bronco, for example. There’s decent power and there should be decent traction, so some dunes or some rolling hills would likely be a blast.

Articulation

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The Maverick’s suspension design is essentially the same as that of the Bronco Sport; up front (see above) there’s a MacPherson strut setup, and in the back (see below) is a semi-trailing arm with dual lateral links.

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This is not a suspension design that lends itself to lots of wheel travel, so you can expect to frequently lift the tires up off the dirt while off-roading.

The Maverick Tremor Doesn’t Have The Hardware To Be Great Off-Road, But It Should Suffice For Most

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The Ford Bronco Sport Badlands is okay off-road. When I reviewed it, I said it was well-suited for “light-to-medium difficulty off-roading.” Here’s my full conclusion from that review:

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The Bronco Sport will be hard to modify with a lift kit, it doesn’t offer great articulation, and it doesn’t have a low-range transfer case for stress-free, low-speed rock crawling.

But for small adventures, the Bronco Sport is plenty capable.Available Trail Control acts as off-road cruise control, which works well in most conditions to keep the vehicle moving steadily under guidance. The Badlands’ four-wheel- drive system gets power to the ground, the 2.0-liter has plenty of torque to climb grades, and the vehicle’s overall geometry is good enough to allow for some fun, light-to-medium difficulty off-roading, depending on your bravery.

The Maverick Tremor is going to take the Bronco Sport Badland’s capability and reduce it considerably. Though the approach angle is actually improved by a little, the breakover angle is lower and the departure angle is much lower (33 degrees for the Bronco Sport, 22.2 for the Maverick Tremor). The 16-inch longer wheelbase and the extra low-mounted rocker panel length associated with it does the truck no favors, and the lack of a front camera doesn’t help, either.

In the context of any other Ford with the name “Tremor” on it (F-150, F-250, F-350), the Maverick is almost certainly less capable off-road. Unlike other Tremors, there’s no true rear locker, there’s no low range transfer case, wheel articulation is significantly worse, and underbody components seem more vulnerable. But in the context of, say, the Subaru Outback Wilderness or other off-road adventure vehicles meant to get you to your campsite down a dirt road, it should do just fine. I bet it will offer plenty of traction, the power is great, and the clearance is more than enough for most campers’ needs. Plus, the orange accents — the badges, the interior stitching, and the tow hooks — are a nice something to make the truck just that little bit different from other Mavericks, which are great all-around drivers.

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Rippstik
Rippstik
2 years ago

I know that a lot of people are hating on this, but I absolutely adore this little truck. The thing that people seem to miss out on is that the aftermarket will likely take the Maverick to the next level. I bet metal skids will be released within the year.

captcrunch
captcrunch
2 years ago

The issue is getting the Tremor means no 4k tow package and lower payload. Not sure if the trade-off is worth that loss.

Dest
Dest
2 years ago

So largely useless. A friend got a Maverick and it’s fantastic, if it actually had true 4wd capability we would seriously be considering it.

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
2 years ago

That fiberous underbody cladding is terrible. Like you said, snags, but also just traps dirt/mud/schmutz, which holds even more moisture right next to the body. If I had one of these I would tear all that off so I could at least hose the dirt/mud off from the chassis. I don’t think the ford engineers care how it does long term, just has to be last past the warranty. I really don’t feel like this truck looks like it is built to last… the whole thing just looks cheap and uses so many stamped parts, I’m a fan of smaller trucks but when they’re built like a Kia it doesn’t do much for me.

Zecrid
Zecrid
2 years ago

Finally! The day the Maverick launched I’ve been telling people it needed a Badlands package with the Focus RS differential found in the Bronco Sport Badlands. I’m sad the Tremor doesn’t come in hybrid, although TBH IDK how much I would trust a CVT at off roading VS a good old torque converter. I really enjoy that Ford lets you just lock the AWD system to 50/50 and lock the diff with buttons rather than hope the drive mode settings will manege them properly or bury them under a maze of settings. Obviously no pure bred off roader, but this should be able to accomplish more than the average #adventure_life social media account asks them to do.

MrLM002
MrLM002
2 years ago

The 4WD system is pretty sad.

The bad breakover and departure angles are sad.

The lack of a Hybrid Tremor is sad

The lack of a Manual Transmission option is the saddest thing of them all.

There are lots of things I hate about the Maverick, but if Ford gave it a 6 speed manual and one of their 3 cylinder engines I’d order one tomorrow.

Also Ford should offer factory lift kits, lowering kits, and factory air suspension kits to cater to all groups interested in the Maverick, soft roaders, ecomodders, mini “truck”ers, short people, etc.

Dave Horchak
Dave Horchak
2 years ago

Now who thought Tremor was a good name? I’m thinking driving down the road with a severe misaligned vehicle with the steering wheel tremors so bad you can’t steer. Was Maverick Vibrator already copyrighted?

Dave Horchak
Dave Horchak
2 years ago

Enjoyed this article. Especially since it let me know this expensive manny,Manny, and Jack rig is far less capable than my DD 2001 Vehicross is stock. I have more clearance 91/2 inches with no lift and stock tires. You can get a VX for around $6k slap a 3 inch lift kit for $500. Put oversized tires up to 33.5s $2000, Buy a steel aftermarket plate kit $950. And for less than $10k leave this and most jeeps behind. Also much better looking than both.

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2 years ago

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Dave Horchak
Dave Horchak
2 years ago
Reply to  annasmith

I wish they could block this spammed chick.

FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
2 years ago
Reply to  Dave Horchak

It’s 100% definitely just a bot with an attractive woman’s face for an avatar, scraped from some unknowing woman’s Facebook page. No actual woman involved, except possibly in managing the bot farm. Scum of the earth.

StillPlaysWithCars
StillPlaysWithCars
2 years ago

Man, I really wish they would figure out how to to an actual mechanical 4wd with low range in a package like this. I’d be all over it. I get that the AWD setup will work for most situations but I really don’t trust it for high stress/slip situations (i.e. sand) which is where I actually use my 4wd.

Ian Case
Ian Case
2 years ago

You’d think it wouldn’t be tough seeing as it’s all electronically controlled anyway. There should be a way to push a button and lock the center diff. But alas, no. Heck, I’m surprised they don’t have the ability to make a car RWD, FWD or AWD based on a switch in a car.

Pat Rich
Pat Rich
2 years ago

So I talked to several powertrain engineers about this. The long story short is – they could if they wanted, but they don’t. For a couple of reasons
1. They don’t make the AWD systems, they buy them (for the most part). There IS one made-for-off-road hang-on AWD system available in the market, but only one model uses it, and it’s likely to be phased out.
2. They are hang-on systems, which mean they can be used for a variety of applications, from escape to Termor Maverik. Can’t mix and match manufacturers or systems cheaply or easily.
3. Most customers don’t need or want a more robust system. Most customers want fully automatic bad weather confidence and don’t care about outright capability. Case in point, about 10% of all Cherokee sales are the Trailhawk. The KL Cherokee is the model using the one true off-road capable hang-on system – The AAM Ecotrac II/Lock.

All that being said, I couldn’t agree more. I wish more people took up AAM on the Ecotrac II, but it is a complicated, heavy, and expensive solution. There is a MUCH cheaper solution but it doesn’t meet engineering targets for fuel economy, and controllability. That’s the locking center diff PTU. Toyota used this for a while in the early 90’s but it’s more expensive than the cheap hang-ons and less controllable than the fancy stuff like twin-clutch.

Sadly, because most manufacturers are going to start pivoting to EV, there is little chance that a better off-road AWD system will be developed. It’s also a little sad because duel motor EV are NOT necessarily superior to a good off-road AWD.

Ryan .
Ryan .
2 years ago

this was the same thing as the focus st/rs, and it’s e-lsd. they could’ve easily put a mechanical lsd into the vehicle and improved it’s performance for a few thousand that no one interested in the vehicle would’ve balked at. but they took the software route that stands to seriously compromise performance…

i walked away from even considering the st/rs after that. got a brz with a mechanical lsd. not as fast, not as roomy, but the vehicle moves and reacts the way i expect it to. which is way more important to me.

i was considering the maverick before. it was down to a tacoma or maverick. the only 2 vehicles that will fit in my lower garage opening. after the initial reports came out with the oddball cvt RDU/PDU thingie, i gave up and kept moving forward on the tacoma with a more typical 4×4 drivetrain.

fords been pretty clear in their preference is software-based solutions over mechanical solutions. save pennies to meet the masses demands at the cost of market share of the more serious users.

Darnon
Darnon
2 years ago
Reply to  Ryan .

The EcoBoost Mavericks have a regular 8-speed transmission. Only the hybrids have a CVT and even then it’s a planetary design (evolved from their older Toyota-sourced units); no belts like those in non-hybrid applications.

Jeff Byers
Jeff Byers
2 years ago

Many drive-on beaches do not allow AWD, only 4WD in NC.

MaximillianMeen
MaximillianMeen
2 years ago

Am I the only one liking the wheels with orange highlights around the valve stems?

Pat Rich
Pat Rich
2 years ago

I want to imagine you picturing my stern face, full of disapproval in your mind when you were being told about the 4wd lock RDU features.

RC Mil
RC Mil
2 years ago

Most excellent dissertation.
Thank you

MP81
MP81
2 years ago

I mean, the equipment is more or less in line with the Bronco Sport Badlands, albeit with a worse departure angle because pickup truck. Given how legitimately capable the Badlands is…I don’t expect this to actually fare too poorly, given you know its limits.

Rad Barchetta
Rad Barchetta
2 years ago

“mini”truck. LOL.

Ian Case
Ian Case
2 years ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

Right? This thing is the same size as a mid 90’s F150. Bigger in some dimensions, smaller in others, but overall pretty similar in size.

Notsurewhy
Notsurewhy
2 years ago
Reply to  Ian Case

I had to look this up, because it sounded preposterous. It is. The maverick is almost seven inches narrower and three lower in height than a mid nineties F150. It’s only longer than a regular cab short bed(rare combo) 90s F150 and then only by 2 inches. The maverick is 20in – 3 FEET shorter than any combination of extended cab or longbed, which nearly all F150s are.

I’ve seen a few Mavericks (not the tremor trim, obviously) on the road and they are TINY compared to modern trucks. That being said, I’d love to see a regular cab version with a 6ft bed that would probably be a foot or two shorter, but Ford would probably only sell 8 of them. I’m not holding my breath.

Drive By Commenter
Drive By Commenter
2 years ago

This sounds good for folks who camp off the beaten path at Forest Service campsites. Getting in may be fine. Getting out may need some mud or soft sand capability. Especially with a small trailer.

FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
2 years ago

“But in the context of, say, the Subaru Outback Wilderness or other off-road adventure vehicles meant to get you to your campsite down a dirt road, it should do just fine.”

Wouldn’t *any* Maverick do just fine at this? I mean, my Miata is actually slightly lowered. I need a low-profile jack to lift it up. Ground clearance is probably 3.5″, and it wears summer performance tires. It is rear-wheel-drive only.

It’s essentially the antithesis of an off-roader, and yet I have yet to find a campsite or trailhead that I couldn’t get to with it. I’ve lightly scraped the underbody once or twice, but only through carelessness—and again, we’re talking about an extremely poor off-road vehicle. A base Corolla would be miles better.

Why do people think they need a special vehicle to drive on dirt roads? Just take it easy, pay attention, and you’ll be fine. I have zero off-roading experience, and can’t even claim to be anything special as a driver in general. My car is almost the worst possible thing you could leave the pavement in. If I can do it, you can do it.

You don’t need a Tremor or a Jeep or whatever to get to your campsite. Your parents did it in a minivan or a station wagon. Unless you specifically seek out difficult terrain, there are very few situations that normal cars can’t handle with just a little bit of care.

Dave Horchak
Dave Horchak
2 years ago
Reply to  FUCK YOU

Yes fine for campgrounds but some people go to offroad campgrounds where you need 4×4 to get there. I suggest read more about a subject if you think why do they need this. Do a Google search on MOAB to start learning and have fun

FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
2 years ago
Reply to  Dave Horchak

Yes, if you specifically seek out difficult terrain, you will need more than a regular car. Off-roading in Moab seems like it would count, no? Naturally there are campsites normal cars can’t get to, and if overlanding is your jam then yeah, you’ll need more than a Corolla. (Heck, I routinely camp in places that no car in the world could ever even dream of accessing—I just use my legs to get there.) At the campgrounds and trailheads around me though, you’ll see a lot of Jeeps and lifted Tacomas—even though they only had to traverse a hundred feet or so of well-maintained dirt to get to their parking spot.

Turkina
Turkina
2 years ago
Reply to  FUCK YOU

https://bangshift.com/bangshiftxl/watch-this-old-cop-spec-crown-vic-handle-moab-off-roading-and-freak-jeepers-out/
You can take a Crown Vic to Moab. No big deal, right? I much prefer leg-power to access all the gnarly trails Jeeps can’t get to.

SquareTaillight2002
SquareTaillight2002
2 years ago
Reply to  FUCK YOU

Not only are you exactly right about 99% of campsite access but you have a Corvair Rampside pickup as your avatar. Therefore, you get 2 thumbs up from me.

JC 06Z33
JC 06Z33
2 years ago
Reply to  FUCK YOU

As a reckless teen, I used to take a short two-track between two housing developments. It was pretty soft and a little hilly/rocky. I knew basically nothing about driving at that point and much less about off-roading. Yet my hand-me-down 90’s Taurus did just fine despite my stupidity. I can’t imagine any car made within the last 15 years with basic traction control wouldn’t be enough to crawl to a campsite on dirt roads.

Are there really enough more-difficult-to-traverse-than-dirt-roads-but-not-quite-Moab trails out there to warrant needing these tweener trim levels?

alwaysbroke
alwaysbroke
2 years ago
Reply to  JC 06Z33

Well in the national forest service area alone there’s about 150,000 “roads” that vary from “passenger car suitable” to “high clearance vehicle required”.

https://www.fs.usda.gov/ivm/

I’ve only traveled a tiny fraction of these, but based on my experience even the “passenger car suitable” would be much more comfortable in something like this than say my mustang, and the “high clearance vehicle required” you are not going to get down without something like this, or even more capable. Granted, exploring these areas via car is not everyone’s game, but there are plenty of places out there where a semi-capable off-roader is useful.

Outofstep
Outofstep
2 years ago

I like different versions of vehicles and like the look of the Maverick Tremor but can we skip to the part where a hybrid Maverick XLT in Cyber Orange is available and parked in my driveway? I’m not even being greedy and demanding an AWD hybrid (although that would be nice), I just want a damn hybrid pickup in my driveway that is the Goldilocks of trucks for my needs.

Stephen Dillard
Stephen Dillard
2 years ago
Reply to  Outofstep

You and I both, outofstep. That’s exactly the combo I want as well. Might as well be a Unicorn… I’m hopeful for the September order period, though

Andrew Wyman
Andrew Wyman
2 years ago

I have a question that I have always wondered. Do the manufacturers hand pick the test vehicles used for the journalist run downs? I know they sometimes have done that for testing purposes (and got caught), but I wasn’t sure if it was something they would do for this sort of thing.

Box Rocket
Box Rocket
2 years ago
Reply to  Andrew Wyman

Yes and no. Depends on the media outlet, the reviewer(s), the event, how production-ready the vehicle is, vehicle availability, etc. Lots goes into it.
Ferrari – for example – is famous for hand-picking cars especially for comparison tests, and even having different cars setup for different parts of said tests. Numerous outlets have called them out on it (some ore loudly than others), but most accept it as the cost of doing business, because there’d be little or no other way to include a Ferrari in said test. And of course, when the Ferraris seem to do remarkably better than their competitors there’s no way to know if it’s due to factory tampering or if they’re just that good, unless some extremely generous and risk-accepting owner is willing to face the potential fallout from the factory for supplying their personal vehicle for a test.
In contrast, some outlets will rent, or borrow (or buy) vehicles from local dealers for their tests. This tends to be less than ideal in some ways – such as offering different equipment, non-comparable trim levels, different gearing, etc. – for some tests, but great for others, especially transparency.

StefanyCarter
StefanyCarter
2 years ago
Reply to  Box Rocket

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MATTinMKE
MATTinMKE
2 years ago
Reply to  StefanyCarter

I know you guys are working on Edit buttons and important stuff for us, but can we get rid if this kind of stuff?

Please & Thank You!

Dave Horchak
Dave Horchak
2 years ago
Reply to  Andrew Wyman

Yes they do they also hand pick the journalists in many cases.

Rad Barchetta
Rad Barchetta
2 years ago
Reply to  Dave Horchak

Are you saying that David Tracy may have been selected by hand and not by some computer-dating-service-like algorithm? How exciting!

BloggyMcBlogBlog
BloggyMcBlogBlog
2 years ago

Thanks for the info David. As someone who has had a hybrid Maverick on order since September, I was thinking about changing my order to this. However, I don’t think I would take it off road to justify it over the better gas mileage of the hybrid. If the hybrid ever got AWD, I wonder if anything would preclude it from getting the Tremor trim.

Data
Data
2 years ago
Reply to  David Tracy

According to Mr. Google a 1998 Jeep XJ gets a combined MPG of 16, so you should stick with the Hybrid to help even things out.

Box Rocket
Box Rocket
2 years ago

Hybrid with good tires may be better for most than an FX4/Tremor with bad tires. But the Tremor does look cool, and I personally appreciate the slightly higher ride height. Supposedly a hybrid AWD is coming, but probably not until 2024 or so

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