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Michigan Says Cops Can Now Chase You In A 3-Ton Ram 2500 Heavy Duty Pickup

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Police vehicles come in all sorts of different shapes and sizes. Most people are familiar with the Dodge Chargers and Ford Explorer cop cars that patrol highways and cities across America, but depending on where you live, the police could be using anything from Smart Cars to Ford F-150s as department transportation, based on the type of service needed.

That spectrum of service is ever-expanding, and Ram is taking advantage. The American truck maker announced today it will begin offering what it describes as the first-ever “pursuit-rated” 3/4-ton, heavy-duty pickup truck enforcement vehicle, based on the 2500.

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Pursuit-capable isn’t just a clever branding phrase. The enforcement vehicle industry relies on annual testing performed by the Michigan State Police (MSP), which includes acceleration, braking, and handling trials, to determine whether certain vehicles are capable of performing pursuit duties. Agencies around the country use these results to determine which vehicles they purchase for their fleets.

Up until now, the biggest pickups to have completed MSP’s tests were the Ford F-150 and the Chevrolet Silverado—both smaller 1/2-ton trucks. Ram sells a police version of the 1500 called the SSV, but it hasn’t been tested by the MSP. The 2500 is the new king of the pursuit-capable fleet—so long as you measure that crown through physical size and not actual performance.

The Many MSP Tests Ram Needed To Complete

The Michigan State Police’s testing regimen is no joke. The testers want to relay exactly how each vehicle will perform in the real world when subject to high-speed chases through unexpected terrain at several speeds. That means tests not only for acceleration times, but also for braking endurance and handling prowess.

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The acceleration portion of the test is pretty simple. MSP takes over the oval track at the Stellantis-owned Chelsea Proving Grounds in Chelsea, Michigan, and hooks up each test car with a Racelogic Vbox 3i GPS-based data box. Then, it tests each car in standing starts to 60 mph, 80 mph, and 100 mph. They also test how far each vehicle takes to hit 100 mph and 120 mph (if possible). Each car gets four runs, where the acceleration times are averaged for a final result. On the final run, the driver continues to accelerate until the manufacturer’s electronically limited top speed is reached. MSP says the top speed must be reached within a distance of 14 miles.

The Ram 2500 Emergency Response Vehicle (ERV), with its 6.4-liter Hemi V8 making 405 horsepower and 429 pound-feet of torque, had no problem reaching its electronically limited top speed of 103 mph in that distance, doing the deed in just 0.45 miles. A lot of that had to do with its shorter gearing; the regular 2500 gets a 3.73 final axle ratio, while the ERV gets a 4.10 version for peppier acceleration.

Msp Testing 1
Source: Michigan State Police

It’s worth mentioning that the 2500 had the lowest top speed of any vehicle tested, beaten by both the smaller Chevrolet Silverado PPV (114 mph) and the Ford F-150 Police Responder (121 mph). The fastest car of the test was the Ford Explorer Interceptor, with a top speed of 148 mph.

The Ram 2500 was also the slowest truck to 60 mph, posting an average of 8.41 seconds. The Durango Pursuit trailed just behind at 8.26 seconds. The Mustang Mach-E GT was by far the quickest of the bunch, posting an average 0-60 time of 4.03 seconds. But the F-150 was pretty damn quick, too, with an average time of 5.68 seconds.

To test braking ability, MSP does 10 consecutive stops from 60 mph before giving each car a cooldown lap, then does 10 more stops from the same speed. Testers take the average deceleration rate to calculate the average distance needed to stop from 60 mph. Here’s the math behind that in case you’re interested:

Msp Testing 4b
Source: Michigan State Police

The Ram was again the worst performer, scoring an average of 170.13 feet to stop from 60 mph to zero. The next closest car, the Silverado PPV, needed just 149.81 feet to perform the same stop. The F-150 wasn’t far behind, at 148.31 feet.

When it comes to testing handling and vehicle dynamics, MSP doesn’t take things easy. Each car is driven by four officers for eight timed laps each, for a total of 32 laps, around Grattan Raceway, a hilly road course in central Michigan with a good mix of high-speed corners, low-speed turns, and a couple of big braking zones. The average lap time score is calculated using the average of the five fastest laps overall.

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Apparently, this race track is for sale, according to its website. Source: Grattan Raceway

According to the MSP’s evaluation form, this test is the “true test of the success or failure of the vehicle manufacturers to offer vehicles that provide the optimum balance between handling (suspension components), acceleration (usable HP), and braking characteristics.” The real test, though, is to ensure the cars can do 32 laps without any big mechanical failure.

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Seeing a helmeted driver behind the wheel of a 3/4-ton pickup truck will never not be funny. Source: Michigan State Police

Weighing in at 6,680 pounds—or 810 pounds heavier than the next heaviest car tested—it should come as no surprise that the Ram 2500 put up the slowest lap time average of 1:52.17. The next slowest vehicle, the Silverado PPV, put up an average time of 1:41.18. The quickest car was the Explorer Interceptor with the 3.0-liter EcoBoost engine and no hybrid tech, with an average time of 1:35.95. But the Ram came out of the test functioning just fine, which, if you know how hard on cars lapping a race track can be, is a victory all its own.

I Can See The Use Case For This Truck

By now you’re probably wondering: What’s the point of this truck? What can a Ram 2500 pursuit vehicle do that a Silverado PPV or an F-150 Police Responder can’t? Those trucks are objectively more capable when it comes to the act of high-speed pursuits, and can tow thousands upon thousands of pounds. But I can see a lot of real-world uses for a 2500-level vehicle that’s also rated for pursuit.

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Source: Ram

Obviously, pursuit won’t be the ERV’s main function. According to Ram, agencies were asking for a truck that could do a bunch of truck stuff and also happen to be pursuit-rated. Per its press release:

Responding to agency requests for a pursuit-capable emergency‑response package suited to rural, mountainous and mixed‑terrain regions, Ram Engineering quickly defined the parameters for an Emergency Response Vehicle based on the Ram 2500. The goal was to combine law‑enforcement capability with the flexibility required by fire, rescue and emergency response agencies, all while maintaining Ram heavy-duty trucks’ hallmark capability.

Both the F-150 and the Silverado could handle off-roading just fine, but for rural departments with lower budgets and few vehicles to spare, it makes sense that they’d want a sort of “catch-all” vehicle that could perform a wide range of duties that include hauling stuff or towing loads that normal 1/2-ton trucks can’t. Because this truck passed MSP’s tests, it can now also be used to chase down the occasional baddie on a rough, dirt back road—no need to call in a different car to chase instead. At the same time, it could pull disabled vehicles off the road, move downed trees, or haul a huge generator into a town without power.

2027 Ram 2500 Emergency Response Vehicle (erv)
Source: Ram

Whether the Ram 2500 ERV will spawn a line of heavy-duty pickups from other manufacturers isn’t clear right now. As far as Ram knows, it’s the only automaker to send a 3/4-ton pickup to MSP’s trials and get a pursuit rating from the department. If anything, I’d love to see what pursuit-ready Silverado 2500 HD and Ford Super Duty look like.

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Sad Little Boxster
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Sad Little Boxster
1 month ago

Nothing new here, other than the MSP certification. I worked for our state wildlife agency and our game wardens (who are Class 1 peace officers just like Highway Patrol) all drove HD 3/4 ton crew cab pickups. If you’re pulling over a DUI today and hauling an elk carcass back across 50 miles of mountains and desert tomorrow it comes in handy. In a lot of small towns they might be the only LE presence other than the occasional county sheriff’s deputy who stops by.

Cloud Shouter
Cloud Shouter
1 month ago

Hell yeah!

Jsloden
Jsloden
1 month ago

My local police department has had several tahoes and dodge rams now for probably at least ten years. I’m in MS though.

Library of Context
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Library of Context
1 month ago

So if a cop in a pickup truck pulls me over, is it bribery if I offer them pizza and beer to help me move that weekend?

RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
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RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
1 month ago

Not if it’s Keith Hernandez, ha ha

JERRY: No I can’t I’ve got some stuff to do then I’ve got to meet Keith Hernandez at my apartment
at three. I’m helping him move.
GEORGE: What? The guy asked you to HELP HIM MOVE? Wow.
JERRY: I know isn’t that something?
KRAMER: He’s got money. Why doesn’t he just pay a mover?
JERRY: I don’t know … he’s got some valuable antiques, He’s worried they’ll break something.
GEORGE: The next thing you know, he’ll have you driving him to the airport…
JERRY: I’M NOT DRIVING HIM TO THE AIRPORT!

Tbird
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Tbird
1 month ago

Good God. As a kid, local cops ran Diplomats/Furys and Celebrities. Highway Patrol ran Crown Vics and Impallas.

Canopysaurus
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Canopysaurus
1 month ago
Reply to  Tbird

When I was a teen the local constabulary rolled in baby blue Mercury Marquis station wagons stuffed with 429 4-barrel mills. Still, not particularly fast and totally outclassed on the narrow, winding rural roads that predominated in our town and county. They could double as ambulances and meat wagons in a pinch, which probably influenced the selection.

MaxQ - MECO
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MaxQ - MECO
1 month ago
Reply to  Tbird

This!!

Johnny Ohio
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Johnny Ohio
1 month ago

One of my pet peeves, and I’m full of many peeves, is that I despise high speed chases. I think they are dangerous and stupid to do for many reasons. Too many stupid people out on the roads who can freak out and cause a major wreck because you decided to push another idiot to go to 3 digit speeds. Or in the very least, only do them for major crimes like murder. Call the perp ahead to other PDs. I cannot imagine seeing this thing going 100mph down a highway. You gotta imagine that rear end could get pretty dicy catching a bump on the road or pot hole at those speeds.

Last edited 1 month ago by Johnny Ohio
Tbird
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Tbird
1 month ago
Reply to  Johnny Ohio

You can’t outrun the Motorolla was true 40 yr’s ago.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago
Reply to  Johnny Ohio

Why a pickup?
Why would they want to haul a bunch of cargo in a pursuit situation?

If they don’t haul cargo, what’s the point of an empty truck that has a bunch of design compromises that enable it to haul cargo.

If the police actually are able to catch and arrest someone with this, where do they put prisoners? It looks like the back of a pickup truck would be pretty easy to escape from.

This is so many kinds of stupid.

Canopysaurus
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Canopysaurus
1 month ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

OTH, they would make a decent barricade.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 month ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

So would an old Nissan Altima.

Phone ahead, block the road, and no one gets upset if another Nissan is hit – and no need for highspeed chases.

It’s also a well proven fact that Altimas are capable of high speeds while continuing to operate even after significant collision / corrosion damage – this would be well suited for Michigan roads.

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago
Reply to  Johnny Ohio

Sorry too many turn offs, what happens if you fail to pursue and the felon kills a few people later? Then it is why didn’t the cops pursue them? On most cases it’s a stolen car so if you don’t pull them over you can’t prove they were driving but I guess you can prosecute the owner who has their car stolen. We are living in a 3 dimensional world where 2 dimensional thinking don’t work

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 month ago

Yeah, this totally won’t get abused and lead to serious injury.

Library of Context
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Library of Context
1 month ago

Police really need 3/4 ton trucks. That way they can absentmindedly leave even more firearms and law enforcement equipment loose in the bed to be lost in parking lots and on the expressway.

CTSVmkeLS6
CTSVmkeLS6
1 month ago

0-60 in 8.41 seconds? Not slow. In fact quicker than the last P71 Crown Victoria sedans. Those were 0-60 mph in 8.87 to 9.01 seconds, depending on the rear-axle ratio (3.55 or 3.27)

Data
Data
1 month ago
Reply to  CTSVmkeLS6

Prius PHEV 0-60 in ~7 seconds. Remember when Toyota ran a commercial where the cops had to get a Prius Interceptor because the perps in a Prius could outlast them on fuel economy?

CTSVmkeLS6
CTSVmkeLS6
1 month ago
Reply to  Data

Excellent reference! I forgot about that one.

MP81
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MP81
1 month ago

Only if their tow mirrors are out.

DialMforMiata
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DialMforMiata
1 month ago

Makes sense, the average RAM owner’s daily commute involves at least three PIT maneuvers.

Canopysaurus
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Canopysaurus
1 month ago
Reply to  DialMforMiata

And that number doesn’t even include bicyclists.

Last edited 1 month ago by Canopysaurus
DialMforMiata
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DialMforMiata
1 month ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

If you don’t see ’em, they don’t count.

Ferdinand
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Ferdinand
1 month ago

I’ve always been a bit surprised that minivans aren’t used as cop vehicles. I mean, I’m not suggesting to replace all cop vehicles with minivans, but some of them. Easy ingress/egress for officers, with loads of space for people wearing vests and utility belts. Easy ingress/egress for whoever you want to throw in the back. Seems easy to divide the front/rear with a wall. Loads of space for storing stuff like a medical kit, and whatever other equipment they may need.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 month ago
Reply to  Ferdinand

It’s also a good litmus test of the officer.

If they turn down a Toyota Sienna because they can’t “run down the perp” then they should probably be given a brand new Trek for a while to burn off that energy.

Tbird
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Tbird
1 month ago
Reply to  Ferdinand

Just look to England and the EU.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 month ago
Reply to  Tbird

Italian Caribinieri using Fiat Pandas and various scooters in Rome.

Tbird
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Tbird
1 month ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

They need mobility. You can always call in a Paddy Wagon.

Chartreuse Bison
Chartreuse Bison
1 month ago
Reply to  Ferdinand

I mean cops are one of the use cases where a bit of extra ground clearance is actually useful, unlike most people who traded a minivan for an SUV.
If they need to haul a bunch of people they have regular vans for that.

Last edited 1 month ago by Chartreuse Bison
Ferdinand
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Ferdinand
1 month ago

What common situations are cops finding themselves in that a portion of their fleet couldn’t be minivans, which have roughly the same ground clearance as sedans that they used for decades (and still use today)?

James McHenry
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James McHenry
1 month ago

I could see these being used for search-and-rescue duties in remote areas, as fire chief vehicles and compact fire trucks, as park ranger vehicles, something for heavy loads and upfits, pre-wired for all the emergency response equipment you can ask for. More likely to be wearing red or green than black and white, IMO. City and town police departments will likely forgo the cost (purchase and running) of a 3/4-ton truck for patrol duties. Highway patrol definitely not.

Tbird
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Tbird
1 month ago
Reply to  James McHenry

And most municipalities in my area have 3/4 ton Suburbans, Fords, RAMs exactly for these duties. But not Highway Patrol.

Actually, here in PA only the State Police can legally patrol numbered Interstates.

Zerosignal
Zerosignal
1 month ago
Reply to  James McHenry

My town just bought an F-150 for the police department. Now, the fire chief is pissed off because he wants one for himself too, but the city said he’s stuck with his city-issued Explorer instead. He tried to make an excuse as to why the fire department needed one but he was reminded they already have two pickup trucks, one set up for grass fires and the other a 20 year old Chevy for whatever truck stuff they need.

Greg
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Greg
1 month ago
Reply to  Zerosignal

Why not spring for an upfitted 150k “government paid so we’ll charge double” special for Chief? Don’t you love America and hate fire? Are you a fire lover Zero?

Besides, it’s only a couple bucks extra on your tax bill.

Canopysaurus
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Canopysaurus
1 month ago

All very impressive, but can it do donuts?

Rad Barchetta
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Rad Barchetta
1 month ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

All they can eat.

Jdoubledub
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Jdoubledub
1 month ago

My encounters with non-traditional police vehicles:

It’s 9pm and I’m stuck at a light for several minutes that isn’t changing and seems to be broken. I ask my passenger to look around for cops. He glances right and sees an F150 and says all clear. I drive through the intersection and immediately get lit up by a game warden. He immediately let me go because the hell was a game warden going to do for a traffic violation.

Driving toward an electronic toll lane and some jagoff in a Camry tries to cut me off, but I don’t let him in front of me. Immediately hits lights and then pulls up next to me with the window down and yelling at me. I flick him off and keep driving because there is no way in hell an undercover Camry has authority to pull me over.

Nsane In The MembraNe
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Nsane In The MembraNe
1 month ago
Reply to  Jdoubledub

Maybe the most ignorant thing I’ve ever done in my life was realizing a cop I could see ahead of me on the highway was turning his lights on to get ready pull me over (I was speeding), making a b-line for the exit ramp that was right before him, parking behind a gas station for 10 minutes, getting back on the highway, and continuing on.

The statute of limitations for speeding has long since passed since this happened so don’t @ me, bootlickers

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 month ago

Meh, I ditched a cop on a Maine back road when I was in college 35 years ago. No way a late ’80s Caprice was keeping up with a Jetta GLI on a windy back road. And in far eastern Maine, his backup was probably an hour away. Not proud of it at all, and I was scared shitless of a Statie turning up at my dorm room door for a week after.

Ferdinand
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Ferdinand
1 month ago
Reply to  Jdoubledub

He immediately let me go because the hell was a game warden going to do for a traffic violation.

In my state, game wardens (we call them DEC officers) are state troopers with additional powers. While they don’t spend much time enforcing traffic laws, they are about the last ones you want to piss off. That old CB radio slang of state troopers being “full grown bears” while county sheriffs or town cops being “bears,” well, the DEC officers would be the fullest of full grown bears.

That being said, my loan interaction with them legally speaking was when I was trying out the roof lights on my new Xterra Pro4X back a dozen or so years ago. “You spot lightin’ deer!?!” Uhhh, no? Just trying out the roof lights that came on this thing. “It came this way from factory?” Yeah… “What are you going to use it for?”

Well, I never used them again. But boy, did I think they were cool.

Thousand dollar car, ain't worth a darn
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Thousand dollar car, ain't worth a darn
1 month ago
Reply to  Ferdinand

I agree that pissing off a game warden is bad idea. Game wardens also have expanded warrantless search privileges over regular LEO.

In the 90s, we were up a dead-end Nevada road in winter and ran into a very jumpy game warden. We weren’t hunting, but there might have been some open containers, so we tried to be relaxed and let him look in the back of the truck, presumably for poached game. We knew that the warden did not need a warrant and it seemed like discretion would be the better part of valor on our part. It all turned out OK, but we were pretty nervous about things going sideways.

Later, I recalled that the Claude Dallas incident that occurred in 1981 in Idaho, near Nevada, where two wardens ended up dead might have had something to do with the warden’s unease, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Dallas

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
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The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
1 month ago

Maybe I’m misunderstanding something, but it seems “pursuit rated” simply means the vehicle can drive around a track without breaking and various performance parameters have been measured. It doesn’t seem like these vehicles have to meet any significant safety or performance standards.

I’m not taking a position on whether or not is appropriate to engage in a pursuit with a 3/4 ton pickup, but this testing seems kind of pointless. Am I missing something?

Spikersaurusrex
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Spikersaurusrex
1 month ago

Assuming there is a valid use case for this, I think that just having the vehicles tested and ranked under severe conditions would be valuable if a department was trying to decide what to buy. Just knowing it survived the track testing without anything failing would be valuable. The last thing you want is to be putting a vehicle to use and have it go into limp mode because it can’t handle the conditions.

*Jason*
*Jason*
1 month ago

There is a minimum performance spec:

The MSP has performance criteria attached to its purchasing specifications. The vehicle must accelerate from 0 – 60 mph in 9.0 seconds, 0 – 80 mph in 14.9 seconds, and 0 – 100 mph in 24.6 seconds. The vehicle must reach 110 mph in 0.92 mile and 120 mph in 1.70 miles. The vehicle must maintain an average deceleration rate of 25.79 ft./sec2 while performing twenty 60 – 0 mph full anti-lock brake stops. The vehicle must also successfully complete all 32 laps of the Grattan Raceway dynamics testing without major component failure.

Last edited 1 month ago by *Jason*
The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
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The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
1 month ago
Reply to  *Jason*

Thanks. I’m surprised the article didn’t include that, or at least reference that objective standards exist. I read it multiple times and remained under the impression this was a bunch of yahoos playing around on a track and calling it research.

I still would argue that, if a 3/4 ton pickup truck can pass performance standards, the standards aren’t high enough to be meaningful. 0-60 in under 9 seconds and not breaking is a low bar for a new vehicle.

I like the braking standards, though, particularly that braking must be consistent over numerous consecutive stops. That is probably the one meaningful bit of information this test shows. Of course, being able to slow down/stop effectively is probably the most important thing. Objective standards for handling would also be very useful, particularly considering they are looking at large, heavy trucks.

Last edited 1 month ago by The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 month ago
Reply to  *Jason*

Interestingly, I ran these through AI tools, and it initially attempted to push me to larger and larger vehicles – it attempted to tell me that to meet these requirements that I would need to select a vehicle with a V8 engine or turbocharged V6.

It was not until I quizzed it if vehicles like a Toyota Prius would comply (albeit without the laps of Gratton or braking performance – which it hasn’t any real test data) that it came back with a rather lengthy list of regular vehicles. Knowing these vehicles already get uprated suspension & brakes, it would stand to reason that the Prius was possible.

Re-running: the Prius, as noted, would be compliant if the governor was raised. As would the Golf GTI, Jetta GLI, Civc Si, Elantra N, WRX, BRZ/GR86.

It feels very much that American police departments are stuck in this same AI self-fuelling loop.

Phil
Phil
1 month ago

With braking and handling that poor, this shouldn’t be pursuing anything but side-by-sides and stolen tractors across cornfields.

Wouldn’t be very satisfying as a highway chase vehicle anyway, that’s pretty slow for a big V8.

“That thing got a Hemi?”
“Well, it’s struggling to chase down a four cylinder Camry, so I guess so”

Burt Curry
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Burt Curry
1 month ago

Add those Ram ready highway patrol bumpers on the front, and you’ve got a Ram Rammer ready for action.

Mrbrown89
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Mrbrown89
1 month ago

A RAM chasing another RAM DUI… insert inception movie meme

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1 month ago
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Yo dawg, we heard you like Rams, so now you can ram Rams while in your Ram!

M SV
M SV
1 month ago

Trucks drive more and more like cars now and every time I turn around there is another police agency running a bunch of pickups so I guess it makes sense. But I don’t want it to.
I can go around corners in my gen 4 ram Cummins fine better then modern Subarus so I guess there is that too. And the gen 5 is even more car like.

I’m going to blame this whole thing on the Taurus. They hated them. Once you got the cage in there was no room in the back seat if you had to take someone to jail they had to be laying on their side. That was 15 years ago. Long enough for someone who had to do that to be in a decision making capacity for fleet buying. The bigger the better is probably the only thing on their mind.

Ecsta C3PO
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Ecsta C3PO
1 month ago
Reply to  M SV

I heard the same thing, those Taurii were despised. Our local police held onto the crown vics as long as they could, then rushed in the explorers. The Taurus was demoted to rookies and desk errands

M SV
M SV
1 month ago
Reply to  Ecsta C3PO

It’s gotten to the point they can’t hide the crown vics anymore so they have to send them to auction. Alot of bigger police agencies had a Taurus fleet before for detectives and desk duty. Sometime they shared them with the county for socal workers or inspectors. So there was kind of a sigma already. Before any of the short comings.

My uncle was in charge of evaluating vehicles with the Taurus came in for a fairly large police department. He told them buy the Chevy. Some other evaluators said the charger no one wanted the ford. But they bought the Taurus because they had a deal with the sort of home town dealer that only did Ford and Lincoln at that time.
He bought a Chevy dealer off someone not long after that because he didn’t think Ford would put out a winner again. And knew they couldn’t buy any more Taurus without major repercussions. He could probably get his hands on a stellantis dealer cheap now. He just might to hedge his bets.

Goose
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Goose
1 month ago
Reply to  Ecsta C3PO

I totally think 99% of the decision making for police vehicle purchases are probably way too heavily based on what looks “cool” more than what would actually work best, but the hate for the Taurus is actually justified. I had one as a company car, what a horrible exercise in packaging. I can’t imagine fitting into one while wearing a vest, utility belt, gun, etc while also having all the police radio/lights/laptop crap in there and I’m smaller than the average male. The external dimensions were huge, the internal dimensions were tiny and cramped.

Arch Duke Maxyenko
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Arch Duke Maxyenko
1 month ago

Coming soon to truTV: RAM LAW

3WiperB
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3WiperB
1 month ago

This city didn’t need RAM LAW, but they are getting it anyway.

Nsane In The MembraNe
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Nsane In The MembraNe
1 month ago

.…putting cops behind the wheel of 7,000 pound death missile? What could possibly go wrong? They’re such a normal, well adjusted group of people and there definitely aren’t ghastly statistics about how much havoc they already wreak with useless car chases! Whatever, V8 go brrrrrrrrr and everyone deserves to know how high my T levels are I am as I RAM into a playground chasing a Civic that with expired tags that made me fear for my life!

M SV
M SV
1 month ago

A ram 2500 will drive over a car. I’ve seen it. This will absolutely happen when you let today’s police have them. It’s no longer safe to be in the back seat of a car.

4jim
4jim
1 month ago

But flags eagles and country music……

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1 month ago

So the highest top speed of any police vehicle tested has been 148mph,

Noted.

Buy Colorful Cars Again
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Buy Colorful Cars Again
1 month ago

250kph you say? Well they’ve got the Tokyo police beat..

https://youtu.be/rqMi5DxARJ8?si=3FyrYNHjqVSf1K5x&t=95

MrLM002
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MrLM002
1 month ago

Also I think it’s safe to say the 2500’s frame is a lot beefier than the F-150’s frame.

Ricardo M
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Ricardo M
1 month ago
Reply to  MrLM002

Why?

MrLM002
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MrLM002
1 month ago
Reply to  Ricardo M

HD 3/4 Ton pickup VS 1/2 Ton Pickup

Ricardo M
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Ricardo M
1 month ago
Reply to  MrLM002

I have no idea how I missed the “1” in “150” in your comment, thought you just knew something about Ford frames that I didn’t

MrLM002
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MrLM002
1 month ago
Reply to  Ricardo M

Happens to the best of us

4jim
4jim
1 month ago

Don’t be like Rickon Stark, ZIGZAG!

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