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The Zero Concept Would Make A Far Better Next Accord Than What It Appears Honda Will Give Us

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Am I a negative person or a realist? Maybe I’m a little bit of both, since with automobiles I’m rarely disappointed at being disappointed. Due to a variety of circumstances – some of them outside of their control – car companies often let us down.

Recently, Honda teased us with an ultra-cool concept EV that they swore would go into production, but now it appears that we’re getting the bait-and-switch with something far less interesting. That’s a shame, since this show car that many of us Autopians really loved could have made a great new Accord for the few sedan lovers still out there.

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Let’s face it; the terms “radical” and “racy” are rarely applied even to conceptual proposals for mid-sized Honda sedans. It’s the fiftieth anniversary of the first Accord built; Honda has never made one that I’d call unattractive, but when a Garfunkel and Oates song describes a guy as a “grey Honda Accord in a parking lot,” you know exactly what they mean.

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source: Honda

For the most part, Accords never really violated any rules for what a typical sedan of the day should look like, and their buyers seemed to like it that way.

Honda Accord 1 10 A2
source: Honda

Actually, that isn’t entirely true. This year is also the fortieth anniversary of the launch of an Accord that really did stand out. The 1986 model had a completely unexpected wedge shape with a nose so low that it needed retractable headlights – on a family sedan!

Honda Accord Lxi Sedan 4
source: Honda

More dramatic than that was a version that we never got in the States: the shooting brake-style “Aerodeck” sports wagon/hatchback.

Honda Accord Aerodeck 2.0si
source: Honda

Still, that model was the exception and possibly a high-water mark for cool that Accords never achieved again. These cars are nails that do not stick up; inoffensive and ubiquitous. However, there was a ray of hope not long ago that got us thinking Accords might be cool once again.

Zero Sum

Honda unveiled a mid-sized EV sedan at CES last year called the Zero Saloon that both surprised and delighted us. With its sharply raked profile, low nose and elevated “box” like rear, it looked more like something to come from Marcello Gandini’s desk than Honda. It’s even got retractable doors over the headlights, so you know that’s got Eighties Kid me all fired up when Honda swore up and down that the production version would look almost exactly like this.

Honda Zero 3 6 13
source: Honda

The rakish front end terminated in a rather controversial tail with a tunnel-like rear window or taillight panel sitting high above an aggressive-looking diffuser.

Honda Zero 5 6 13
source: Honda

As Matt Hardigree has pointed out, the design is rather similar to Honda’s Kiwami concept from 2003. Honda obviously seems to like this shape.

Honda Kiwami Cropped
source: Honda

The strange shooting brake style with the hint of a trunklid was bold, daring, and also polarizing:

Kiwami 2 6 13
source: Honda

From the back, the Zero is in some ways reminiscent of Honda’s very early car, the 600 hatchback:

Honda 600 Rear 6 13
source: Broad Arrow Auctions

Personally, I thought this Zero Saloon looked awesome. Of course, you’re talking to a guy who, if given 200 grand or so to spend on a car, would immediately go out and buy a Lamborghini Espada; I even scribbled up a love letter to it here a while ag0:

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source: The Autopian

Matt Hardigree and Jason Torchinsky also love fast breadvan-looking cars, so I’m sure there are at least a dozen people out there who would buy this thing. Yeah, that’s not a good business plan. The response from some less imaginative car “critics” was to be expected, like this guy reporting for JD Power proved:

My family took one look at my photos of the Honda 0 Series Saloon Prototype and agreed that it looked like a mashup between a Lamborghini, a Cybertruck, and a DeLorean. It was not a compliment.

Well, like it or loathe it, it really doesn’t matter, based on what happened next.

Honda Zero, Accord Won

Last March, Honda made the announcement that they were cancelling these stunning upcoming EV products as production vehicles. That didn’t mean Honda needed to abandon the design since it could have been rather easily translated into a hybrid or gasoline car, but it appears they took the opportunity to do so.

Honda Zero Side View
source: Honda

As a consolation prize, Honda claims it has translated the look onto a new concept called the Hybrid Sedan Prototype (below, and what an awful name) that was shown recently, though “concept” might be a misnomer for something shown with left-hand drive, DOT-style side marker lights, and reflectors. This had most of us speculating that this thing might very well be the next Accord sedan, especially based on what Matt quoted from Automotive News recently:

Gary Robinson, American Honda’s head of product planning, described the changes as “pretty major,” declining to elaborate on what’s headed to dealerships in the second half of 2027. “Customers will see a substantially redesigned Accord that will feel like a new model,” Robinson said.

The sleeker, more aerodynamic design draws inspiration from Honda’s scrapped 0 Series electric sedan. “The 0 Series went too far,” one of the people with knowledge of the update said. “The Accord strikes the right balance.”

If that’s the case, I’m disappointed. This “Prototype Sedan” does look “substantially redesigned,” but it was redesigned by committee, not visionaries. It appears less like the 0 Series that it was supposedly “inspired” by and more like a Tesla Model 3 with a variety of other things thrown in for good measure, like BMW door handles and headlights from a Buick that I can’t be bothered to remember the name of. Also, this thing is slated for a mid-2027 launch, by which time those cars that it seems to be copying will be half a decade old or more.

Honda Hybrid Sedan Prototype
source: Honda

None of the designs the Prototype Sedan resembles are particularly outstanding, and worse than that is none of them are actually “sedans” at all: they’re crossovers.

Honda Hybrid Sedan 2
source: Honda

It’s hardly a terrible-looking car, but if this really is the new Accord, I fear that Honda is quietly abandoning the sedan market. Do we really need another fastback crossover? Does Honda want to use this design to replicate the sales numbers of their last true flop – the Accord Crosstour hatchback – that this “Prototype Sedan” bears a bit of a resemblance to? I think the Zero Saloon could be made a bit more palatable to the average person and give us an Accord as striking as one from ’86. Let’s give it a try.

“For I did not speak of my own accord” – John 12:49

The Zero Saloon isn’t really as radical a design as you might think after a first glance, especially when you see it from the side. With crisp edges and clean looks, it’s a lot like the designs coming out of Hyundai or Kia now, but without the weird, superfluous creases, folds, and gingerbread detailing seen on many of those.

Honda Zero Side View

Still, it does have a number of elements that make it hard for the public to accept it, and I’ve attempted to make it more mainstream without losing the essence of the original.

First, I raised the roofline a bit and then added a bumper up front to match the back in the same cool speckled plastic material they use on the rocker panels. I love how that visual texture can hide marks. Note that I added, as an option, a piece to hold the front license plate since that’s something almost all manufacturers seem to have forgotten exists.

Accord Zero Side 1 6 13
source: Honda

I took the grille design off the Zero SUV launched at the same time as the Saloon; it gives the thing some personality and also sort of recalls the earliest generations of Accord.

Accord Zero Side 1 6 13 Comparison
source: Honda, Duncan Motors

The other change made was to add more of a fastback to the roofline to eliminate the controversial part of the design: the “breadvan” shape. You can also see that I went ahead and added normal door handles just to piss off those who want to do something different for the sake of doing something different.

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From the rear, that roofline change is most noticeable and dramatically changes the Zero from a polarizing design to something I feel is hard to dislike. The bumper line is brought down, the odd rear window now becomes a taillight, and a large glass rear window lets in light. I’ve kept the diffuser rather similar but just added an exhaust outlet below the Buckeye plate and reflectors/back up lights.

Honda Accord Zero 6 13

Below you can see with the slightly taller roof and reducing the banana-shaped profile it still looks dramatic but far more acceptable to someone trading in a 2022 Accord:

Honda Accord Zero 6 13 Animation

Yeah, I know what you’re saying: “I really dig that breadvan design so why did you kill it?” Hey, I liked it too, and we haven’t had an Accord wagon in a long time; I think it was the one that shared rear doors with the sedan:

Hondaaccord Comp
source: Honda

That’s why I’d offer an Aerodeck touring (station wagon) version as well.

Accord Zero Side Wagon 6 13

The tailgate would cut into the roofline not unlike the original Aerodeck or the  Dodge Magnum wagon from years ago, and the giant rear window recalls the much-loved Volvo 1800ES and C30. Taillights are incorporated into the window area as well.

Honda Accord Zero 2 6 13
source: Honda

You can see from the animation below that I’ve kept a lot of the feel of the original but gone more practical and accessible with the alterations I’ve done to create the Aerodeck version:

Honda Accord Zero 6 13 Animation 2

It’s really just a matter of how much Costco two-ply you need to bring home that would determine if you should go fastback sedan or Aerodeck wagon. The hatch below is shown with the cargo cover removed. Honestly, we could just make one with a simple trunk lid as well, but I just hate these latest fastback sedans with stupid, tiny cargo openings.

Honda Accord Zero 6 13 Harch

The Aerodeck would give you just that much extra space:

Honda Accord Zero 2 6 13 Hatch

It’s almost a forgone conclusion that the Aerodeck version of this Accord wouldn’t sell well, but who cares? It would be a sign to the world that Honda isn’t letting the Koreans take the lead in new design directions. Plus, it would get those car journalist weenies that keep begging for station wagons (me) some raw meat to chew on.

Hey, one last version that also won’t be a big seller but I’d want to have: an Accord coupe. Many of you will disagree with me, but there were many times that I thought the Accord coupe looked better than that supposedly sportier Prelude. This might be another one of those times. You’ll note the old-school quarter “vent” trim that also recalls Italian designs from half a century ago:

Accord Zero Side 1 6 13 Coupe

How long has it been since Honda offered a full line of body styles from coupe to sedan to wagon with any model? If the Accord is the keeper of the non-SUV-crossover flame, I’d say they should go for it.

Accord Zero, Honda Won

Come on, a true Zero-inspired Accord would be a clean but strikingly different car to bring some energy to the market. Let’s summon the ghost of Rocky’s coach to give us the old Honda mantra:

That’s right: simple but complex was the Accord way, and to honor this great nameplate’s half-century mark, we don’t want some damn crossover thing to sully the legacy. We want nothing less than Zero.

Top graphic base image: Honda

 

 

 

 

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BB 2 wheels > 4
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BB 2 wheels > 4
24 seconds ago

I want a third gen Accord with a manual transmission so darn bad. Do something cool honda! (Certified honda boi here – 3 civics in my past and currently 3 different honda bikes)

*Jason*
*Jason*
1 minute ago

The “Prototype Sedan” not only looks better than the Zero but is a far more functionally looking vehicle. The only miss is keeping a sedan style trunk lid instead of making it a hatch.

This “sedan” doesn’t have nearly enough ground clearance to be a crossover.

It looks like Honda is following Toyota’s lead with the Crown and giving their next sedan a slightly higher ride height but still keeping the ground clearance less than 6 inches.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 minute ago

Unless the market for them really blew up recently, you shouldn’t need anywhere near $200k to get an Espada. I would think around half that would get you a good one. I remember when decent ones were hardly over $20k and I almost bought a white one before coming to my senses on maintenance. If you drive them and follow the maintenance schedule, though, I’ve talked to several owners who swear they’re reliable (one of those guys had even added NOS to his). I don’t know if that’s VW owner “my ten year old one has 40k miles on it and it hasn’t blown up!” reliable or a more common idea of reliability, so I took it as MMMV.

Rapgomi
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Rapgomi
6 minutes ago

One of the main reasons the 1986 accord was so beloved was its massive greenhouse and low dash. It made driving it so easy, airy, and low stress.

The first company to engineer a return to large windows and a low body line while meeting today’s side impact standards will have a sedan win.

*Jason*
*Jason*
23 seconds ago
Reply to  Rapgomi

A large greenhouse and low body line requires crossover ground clearance to meet side impact standards.

Timbales
Timbales
19 minutes ago

looks like someone flatted a Chevy Lumina/Olds Silhouette/Pontiac Trams Sport

Albert Ferrer
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Albert Ferrer
27 minutes ago

The Espada link is legit. But actually gives me more Marzal vibes. Which was also a sort of saloon car.

Jamaha
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Jamaha
31 minutes ago

I have never understood why looking unconventional = looking bad in the eyes of many people. The Honda Zero concept is really cool, looks good, seems reasonably practical, and is forward thinking. That quote about a cross between Lamborghini, Cybertruck, and DeLorean not being a compliment is weird. 2/3 of those are considered good-looking cars. And there are absolutely no Cybertruck vibes in there at all.

I agree with the Bishop; I’m sad that it won’t see production. I’m also sad that Honda seems too afraid to take a swing.

Hazdazos
Hazdazos
42 minutes ago

I stated that the Zero had zero change of ever seeing the light of day as a production vehicle the second I saw it. And I fully stick by that. I thought it was ugly when they first showed it off, and I still think it is ugly today.

*Jason*
*Jason*
9 minutes ago
Reply to  Hazdazos

Ugly and completely impractical with the lack of forward sight lines.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
45 minutes ago

Implying the Crosstour wouldn’t sell well.

Considering everything else has gone that way, and seemingly selling like hotcakes, why wouldn’t it?

Crosstour was just a little too frumpy, and came with a premium pricetag over the sedan.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
52 minutes ago

“Of course, you’re talking to a guy who, if given 200 grand or so to spend on a car, would immediately go out and buy a Lamborghini Espada”

That’s me too!
The only Lamborghini I want. Well the Muria is nice too. Interestingly, the Espada was more expensive than the Muria and vastly outsold it

I was really into the Marcello Gandini vibe of the Honda, adding details sort of spoils it.

Oh, and the little window in the back of the Espada is wonderful. On the Prius, you can look out the back but position your gear so that headlights are blocked by the space between the glass.

Church
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Church
53 minutes ago

You know I’m usually on board with the Bishop here, but I’m not seeing much “sedan” here and that’s an important aspect for the Accord in my opinion. This thing looks more like a Model Y cross-bred with a DMC-12 (though that may be the silver-ish color impacting my judgement).

Cerberus
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Cerberus
54 minutes ago

Center exhaust is a bad idea, especially for a practical vehicle, as it makes it difficult or unduly expensive to add a hitch receiver and might restrict it to wussy 1-1/4, like with my Focus ST (had to sandwich it between the exhaust and body). Those BDSM strap-on bike racks suck. Center exhaust also looks awful on probably anything built since the ’60s.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
49 minutes ago
Reply to  Cerberus

My uncle had a trailer hitch on his 62 XKE.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
42 minutes ago
Reply to  Cerberus

1-1/4 size-down is usually to discourage people from overloading tongue weight. Probably for the best on the Focus.

I’ve put a trailer hitch on every small car I’ve owned. If not just for the bike rack, the versatility for utility trailers when I can’t fit things in the hatch (or for transporting a motorcycle).

Cerberus
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Cerberus
8 minutes ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

Yeah, I built a 5×8 utility trailer for my GR86 as kayaks can’t go on the roof, but also for yard waste disposal, construction material, or whatever, but the need to transport bikes is a lot more common. The problem I have with 1-1/4 is the torsional load a bike rack puts on it and I worry more about dynamic loads. One would need some pretty massive bikes to exceed the TW on a class 2 hitch with bicycles. I would think the rack’s rating would be a lot lower (my Kuat is 160 lbs, I think). While I didn’t have an issue with the 1-1/4, the 2″ class 3 I have on the ’86 almost doesn’t move at all, which is a lot more reassuring.

Shooting Brake
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Shooting Brake
1 hour ago

Man I love the aero deck so much…high want

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
1 hour ago

I like these a lot – of course a coupe would be especially cool.

Honda seems to be veering towards styling and engineering conservatism these days – and it’s a shame.

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