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The Zero Concept Would Make A Far Better Next Accord Than What It Appears Honda Will Give Us

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Am I a negative person or a realist? Maybe I’m a little bit of both, since with automobiles I’m rarely disappointed at being disappointed. Due to a variety of circumstances – some of them outside of their control – car companies often let us down.

Recently, Honda teased us with an ultra-cool concept EV that they swore would go into production, but now it appears that we’re getting the bait-and-switch with something far less interesting. That’s a shame, since this show car that many of us Autopians really loved could have made a great new Accord for the few sedan lovers still out there.

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Let’s face it; the terms “radical” and “racy” are rarely applied even to conceptual proposals for mid-sized Honda sedans. It’s the fiftieth anniversary of the first Accord built; Honda has never made one that I’d call unattractive, but when a Garfunkel and Oates song describes a guy as a “grey Honda Accord in a parking lot,” you know exactly what they mean.

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source: Honda

For the most part, Accords never really violated any rules for what a typical sedan of the day should look like, and their buyers seemed to like it that way.

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source: Honda

Actually, that isn’t entirely true. This year is also the fortieth anniversary of the launch of an Accord that really did stand out. The 1986 model had a completely unexpected wedge shape with a nose so low that it needed retractable headlights – on a family sedan!

Honda Accord Lxi Sedan 4
source: Honda

More dramatic than that was a version that we never got in the States: the shooting brake-style “Aerodeck” sports wagon/hatchback.

Honda Accord Aerodeck 2.0si
source: Honda

Still, that model was the exception and possibly a high-water mark for cool that Accords never achieved again. These cars are nails that do not stick up; inoffensive and ubiquitous. However, there was a ray of hope not long ago that got us thinking Accords might be cool once again.

Zero Sum

Honda unveiled a mid-sized EV sedan at CES last year called the Zero Saloon that both surprised and delighted us. With its sharply raked profile, low nose and elevated “box” like rear, it looked more like something to come from Marcello Gandini’s desk than Honda. It’s even got retractable doors over the headlights, so you know that’s got Eighties Kid me all fired up when Honda swore up and down that the production version would look almost exactly like this.

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source: Honda

The rakish front end terminated in a rather controversial tail with a tunnel-like rear window or taillight panel sitting high above an aggressive-looking diffuser.

Honda Zero 5 6 13
source: Honda

As Matt Hardigree has pointed out, the design is rather similar to Honda’s Kiwami concept from 2003. Honda obviously seems to like this shape.

Honda Kiwami Cropped
source: Honda

The strange shooting brake style with the hint of a trunklid was bold, daring, and also polarizing:

Kiwami 2 6 13
source: Honda

From the back, the Zero is in some ways reminiscent of Honda’s very early car, the 600 hatchback:

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source: Broad Arrow Auctions

Personally, I thought this Zero Saloon looked awesome. Of course, you’re talking to a guy who, if given 200 grand or so to spend on a car, would immediately go out and buy a Lamborghini Espada; I even scribbled up a love letter to it here a while ag0:

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source: The Autopian

Matt Hardigree and Jason Torchinsky also love fast breadvan-looking cars, so I’m sure there are at least a dozen people out there who would buy this thing. Yeah, that’s not a good business plan. The response from some less imaginative car “critics” was to be expected, like this guy reporting for JD Power proved:

My family took one look at my photos of the Honda 0 Series Saloon Prototype and agreed that it looked like a mashup between a Lamborghini, a Cybertruck, and a DeLorean. It was not a compliment.

Well, like it or loathe it, it really doesn’t matter, based on what happened next.

Honda Zero, Accord Won

Last March, Honda made the announcement that they were cancelling these stunning upcoming EV products as production vehicles. That didn’t mean Honda needed to abandon the design since it could have been rather easily translated into a hybrid or gasoline car, but it appears they took the opportunity to do so.

Honda Zero Side View
source: Honda

As a consolation prize, Honda claims it has translated the look onto a new concept called the Hybrid Sedan Prototype (below, and what an awful name) that was shown recently, though “concept” might be a misnomer for something shown with left-hand drive, DOT-style side marker lights, and reflectors. This had most of us speculating that this thing might very well be the next Accord sedan, especially based on what Matt quoted from Automotive News recently:

Gary Robinson, American Honda’s head of product planning, described the changes as “pretty major,” declining to elaborate on what’s headed to dealerships in the second half of 2027. “Customers will see a substantially redesigned Accord that will feel like a new model,” Robinson said.

The sleeker, more aerodynamic design draws inspiration from Honda’s scrapped 0 Series electric sedan. “The 0 Series went too far,” one of the people with knowledge of the update said. “The Accord strikes the right balance.”

If that’s the case, I’m disappointed. This “Prototype Sedan” does look “substantially redesigned,” but it was redesigned by committee, not visionaries. It appears less like the 0 Series that it was supposedly “inspired” by and more like a Tesla Model 3 with a variety of other things thrown in for good measure, like BMW door handles and headlights from a Buick that I can’t be bothered to remember the name of. Also, this thing is slated for a mid-2027 launch, by which time those cars that it seems to be copying will be half a decade old or more.

Honda Hybrid Sedan Prototype
source: Honda

None of the designs the Prototype Sedan resembles are particularly outstanding, and worse than that is none of them are actually “sedans” at all: they’re crossovers.

Honda Hybrid Sedan 2
source: Honda

It’s hardly a terrible-looking car, but if this really is the new Accord, I fear that Honda is quietly abandoning the sedan market. Do we really need another fastback crossover? Does Honda want to use this design to replicate the sales numbers of their last true flop – the Accord Crosstour hatchback – that this “Prototype Sedan” bears a bit of a resemblance to? I think the Zero Saloon could be made a bit more palatable to the average person and give us an Accord as striking as one from ’86. Let’s give it a try.

“For I did not speak of my own accord” – John 12:49

The Zero Saloon isn’t really as radical a design as you might think after a first glance, especially when you see it from the side. With crisp edges and clean looks, it’s a lot like the designs coming out of Hyundai or Kia now, but without the weird, superfluous creases, folds, and gingerbread detailing seen on many of those.

Honda Zero Side View

Still, it does have a number of elements that make it hard for the public to accept it, and I’ve attempted to make it more mainstream without losing the essence of the original.

First, I raised the roofline a bit and then added a bumper up front to match the back in the same cool speckled plastic material they use on the rocker panels. I love how that visual texture can hide marks. Note that I added, as an option, a piece to hold the front license plate since that’s something almost all manufacturers seem to have forgotten exists.

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source: Honda

I took the grille design off the Zero SUV launched at the same time as the Saloon; it gives the thing some personality and also sort of recalls the earliest generations of Accord.

Accord Zero Side 1 6 13 Comparison
source: Honda, Duncan Motors

The other change made was to add more of a fastback to the roofline to eliminate the controversial part of the design: the “breadvan” shape. You can also see that I went ahead and added normal door handles just to piss off those who want to do something different for the sake of doing something different.

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From the rear, that roofline change is most noticeable and dramatically changes the Zero from a polarizing design to something I feel is hard to dislike. The bumper line is brought down, the odd rear window now becomes a taillight, and a large glass rear window lets in light. I’ve kept the diffuser rather similar but just added an exhaust outlet below the Buckeye plate and reflectors/back up lights.

Honda Accord Zero 6 13

Below you can see with the slightly taller roof and reducing the banana-shaped profile it still looks dramatic but far more acceptable to someone trading in a 2022 Accord:

Honda Accord Zero 6 13 Animation

Yeah, I know what you’re saying: “I really dig that breadvan design so why did you kill it?” Hey, I liked it too, and we haven’t had an Accord wagon in a long time; I think it was the one that shared rear doors with the sedan:

Hondaaccord Comp
source: Honda

That’s why I’d offer an Aerodeck touring (station wagon) version as well.

Accord Zero Side Wagon 6 13

The tailgate would cut into the roofline not unlike the original Aerodeck or the  Dodge Magnum wagon from years ago, and the giant rear window recalls the much-loved Volvo 1800ES and C30. Taillights are incorporated into the window area as well.

Honda Accord Zero 2 6 13
source: Honda

You can see from the animation below that I’ve kept a lot of the feel of the original but gone more practical and accessible with the alterations I’ve done to create the Aerodeck version:

Honda Accord Zero 6 13 Animation 2

It’s really just a matter of how much Costco two-ply you need to bring home that would determine if you should go fastback sedan or Aerodeck wagon. The hatch below is shown with the cargo cover removed. Honestly, we could just make one with a simple trunk lid as well, but I just hate these latest fastback sedans with stupid, tiny cargo openings.

Honda Accord Zero 6 13 Harch

The Aerodeck would give you just that much extra space:

Honda Accord Zero 2 6 13 Hatch

It’s almost a forgone conclusion that the Aerodeck version of this Accord wouldn’t sell well, but who cares? It would be a sign to the world that Honda isn’t letting the Koreans take the lead in new design directions. Plus, it would get those car journalist weenies that keep begging for station wagons (me) some raw meat to chew on.

Hey, one last version that also won’t be a big seller but I’d want to have: an Accord coupe. Many of you will disagree with me, but there were many times that I thought the Accord coupe looked better than that supposedly sportier Prelude. This might be another one of those times. You’ll note the old-school quarter “vent” trim that also recalls Italian designs from half a century ago:

Accord Zero Side 1 6 13 Coupe

How long has it been since Honda offered a full line of body styles from coupe to sedan to wagon with any model? If the Accord is the keeper of the non-SUV-crossover flame, I’d say they should go for it.

Accord Zero, Honda Won

Come on, a true Zero-inspired Accord would be a clean but strikingly different car to bring some energy to the market. Let’s summon the ghost of Rocky’s coach to give us the old Honda mantra:

That’s right: simple but complex was the Accord way, and to honor this great nameplate’s half-century mark, we don’t want some damn crossover thing to sully the legacy. We want nothing less than Zero.

Top graphic base image: Honda

 

 

 

 

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Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
1 month ago

Thoughts, a day late to the party (I often put Bishop articles aside until I have time with no distractions):

Generally: an improvement on the concept car, and an improvement on that Accord assumed-prototypeIt needs to be a degree more “normal” than the current Prius, which I really like, but which isn’t selling well. This is a degree weirder than the Prius.Front: Would this have any chance of passing current pedestrian safety requirements? The hood front edge looks so much lower than anything currently available.Front: it looks far too pinched with the falling hood line and the rising above-the-grey-bits line meeting in that tiny narrow, wide grill and headlight area — maybe try it with a body-colored lowest bar (of the currently grey part) and a body-colored vertical corner element, either at the actual corner or even inset by a few inches from the side, front, or both? And a somewhat higher front hood crease, if that can be reconciled with the windshield. Together they might give a front rectangle with more presence, but retaining the simplicity.Rear: De-weirdify it a bit more by removing that red surround and upper and lower bars from the rear glass/panel. I think it would make it more approachable or acceptable to a Honda buyer without really being a huge compromise to the design.

Last edited 1 month ago by Twobox Designgineer
Jd Jd
Jd Jd
1 month ago

The last 12 years or so have been terrible for concept cars and the Zero was the first one in a long time that got me excited again! I couldn’t wait to see how that design translated over to a production car. It was weird and I love weird futuristic things. We almost had it too. It just ridiculous. I miss when designs were fun and strange like in the late 90s and early 2000s. The TT, Vehicross, Cube, Juke, Quest, Chevy SS, even the Aztek. Everything is SO BORING now and all they want to do is continue giving us boring things. Same with the Kia EV4. Weird and futuristic and now it’s not coming here either. With China basically becoming the automotive center of the world now they design cars for them and they just throw us the scraps. Even Europe gets cooler stuff than we do. It’s pathetic.

Adam Rice
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Adam Rice
1 month ago

Sigh. Why can’t we have nice things? That Accord redesign has been beaten with the same ugly stick Honda took to the 2007 CR-V. The Zero is great, although I agree that making a proper wagon of it would be greater.

Cars? I've owned a few
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Cars? I've owned a few
1 month ago

I bought a 1986 Accord and absolutely loved it. Put a 160K on it before parting with it in a divorce settlement. I guess I liked the car more than her at that point, but you know.

I currently drive a 2017 Accord and really, really like it, but the ’86 was so new feeling. The ’17 is certainly a far better car, objectively. But it doesn’t feel as revolutionary as the ’86.

I’m now 69. My lower suspension doesn’t work like it did even when I bought the ’17. And none of the images shown look like they would be fun places to egress out of with my knees, hips, back etc.

And I know. Being an Accord owner twice in my “prime” doesn’t make me an exciting or influential person. Maybe I can get a decent deal on a Toyota Crown hybrid when it comes off lease in a couple of years.

Ranwhenparked
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Ranwhenparked
1 month ago

Honda could have had a 1st generation Taurus, but went for a 2nd generation Taurus instead, meaning, it will probably still sell pretty well, but it isn’t going to have much impact on the wider market

Do You Have a Moment To Talk About Renaults?
Do You Have a Moment To Talk About Renaults?
1 month ago

Nice reminder that Jesus drove an Accord, but didn’t really brag about it.

Phil
Phil
1 month ago

I dunno, I thought the Zero Saloon concept looked kind of cheap and janky. I’m all for an unconventional body style, but it would need to have far better surface detailing and cohesion than that plasticky-looking slabsided Stormtrooper pod.

I’m not sure what it takes to rescue the Accord, because I’m not sure why it’s flopping so badly beyond a shrinking sedan market whose core has decided the Camry is doing it better. They’re not all that different beyond Toyota continuing to take styling risks that apparently pay off.

KGurrier
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KGurrier
1 month ago

It’s a shame nearly every automaker is stuck on that brutal, angry carved-from-granite-I-don’t-need-windows-kick-up-all-the-character-lines look. It’s tired and beginning to make every car look super dated.
Every time we get a decent concept, like the VW ID.Life with clean styling, it gets pulled for something with mean-looking headlights that looks like the designers took a sledgehammer and a melon baller to the doors.

Honda baby, what is you doing???

Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
1 month ago
Reply to  KGurrier

I can’t wait for a time when at least some of the cars have a main side view with a level main belt line or crease below the beltline rather the always-rising requirement. A car can looks like it is just cruising along calmly and comfortably, rather than being amped up and ready to pounce. There’s too much adrenaline and too much long-term cortisol damage in current design. Chill, People!
(Unfortunately the main exception are all the Mercedes letter-number-number-number things that fail for different reasons.)

Last edited 1 month ago by Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
1 month ago
Reply to  KGurrier

looks like the designers took a sledgehammer and a melon baller to the doors

Hah, I’m picturing people at a clay model, attacking the flanks with giant scorps.

Gurpgork
Gurpgork
1 month ago

After all there’s only one answer in all of car enthusiasm, and that answer is: Toyota Previa.

Kurt B
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Kurt B
1 month ago

Why does the Honda prototype look like an angry Integra that slammed a box of Krispy Kremes

Last edited 1 month ago by Kurt B
Gurpgork
Gurpgork
1 month ago
Reply to  Kurt B

So basically me in high school?

Kleinlowe
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Kleinlowe
1 month ago

Guys, you seem to have accidentally posted pictures of an Accord Crosstour in the middle of the article.

Strangek
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Strangek
1 month ago

That “Prototype Sedan” is pretty lame. Too bad, I think the current Accord is a nice looking car.

NorthernCarGuy
NorthernCarGuy
1 month ago

The new prototype looks pretty sweet IMHO. retro-futuristic.

The Zero concept looked bizarre – strange combinations of gallardo angles and curves that altogether looked dis-harmonious at best.

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