In an effort to mix things up and feature as many different types of cheap vehicles as possible, we move from yesterday’s land yachts to a couple of tiny two-seaters that were originally marketed as economy cars, but weren’t fooling anyone. One of them is, however, also a Pontiac. Maybe I can make that the theme for the week: every matchup is a Pontiac versus something else.
Yesterday’s Pontiac choice went over like a lead balloon, I’m afraid. Its smog-era carburetor and lack of an overdrive gear counted against it, but I think its main flaw was that its competitor was a woody wagon. I tried to find a Roadmaster Estate or something to put up against that Colony Park, but came up empty-handed in the time I had to look. Maybe I’ll try to make that matchup happen someday soon.
I’m of two minds about this one. I like the Catalina a lot better, but the Mercury wagon would be a lot easier to live with. I guess I’ll take the wagon as well. But in reality, I’d go for a Chrysler Newport, sedan or wagon, over either of them.

For those of you who prefer zippy, good-handling little cars with manual transmissions, yesterday’s vote was a tough one, I know. Maybe you’ll prefer one of these two. Let’s check them out.
1986 Pontiac Fiero SE – $3,000

Engine/drivetrain: 2.8-liter OHV V6, four-speed manual, RWD
Location: Oregon City, OR
Odometer reading: 105,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives well
By now, you know the story: Pontiac sold the Fiero concept to the GM brass as an economy car that just happened to be mid-engined and wedge-shaped. It was cobbled together from GM’s parts bin, sold just well enough, and showed just enough promise to warrant some improvements, then was unceremoniously killed off just as Pontiac finally started to get it right. This SE model, from smack-dab in the middle of the production run, has some noticeable improvements over the original, but doesn’t command the high price of the coveted 1988 models.

The standard Fiero engine was Pontiac’s low-revving Iron Duke four-cylinder, which was a respectable enough engine for a family car, but had no business being in a sports coupe. It seemed to realize that, and had a tendency to protest being shoved into the Fiero’s cramped engine bay by catching fire. The later optional 2.8 liter V6, which this car has, is more powerful and less prone to self-immolation, making it a logical choice. Halfway through the 1986 model year, V6 Fieros switched from a four-speed manual to a five-speed; this one is an earlier car with the four-speed. Hey, at least it’s a stickshift. The seller says it runs great, and has a smattering of new parts.

The interior needs a little help: the upholstery is torn up on both seats, the carpet is a mess, and it looks like the headliner might be falling down. I’ve seen a lot worse, though. The seller is tight-lipped about the condition of things in here, but I would expect a few electrical items not to work, and I’m certain that the dash rattles over bumps. They all do.

1986 was the first year that the Fiero GT received the new rear body style, with the long flying buttresses alongside the engine cover. Base models, and SEs like this one, kept the original rear styling, which personally I like better. This one is in good shape, and if it has been an Oregon car all along, it’s unlikely to have any worrisome rust under the plastic body panels.
1989 Honda CRX Si – $4,000

Engine/drivetrain: 1.8-liter DOHC inline 4 (swapped), five-speed manual, FWD
Location: Oregon City, OR
Odometer reading: 93,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives well
Like the Fiero, the Honda Civic CRX was meant as a commuter car, especially the frugal HF model. But the go-kart handling and easy modifiability of the second generation in particular made it a favorite among enthusiasts. The side effect of that, of course, is that it’s now hard to find a stock CRX for any sort of reasonable price. The price of this one is reasonable, but it is by no means a stock CRX.

The CRX Si originally came with a 1.6-liter engine making 108 horsepower, plenty to toss around such a lightweight car, but this one has something considerably more potent: a 1.8-liter B18C1 from an Integra. The seller says it’s “fully built,” which could mean a lot of things, but hopefully it means it was overhauled by someone who knows what they’re doing. It reportedly runs and drives very well. I’m not against engine swaps in general, but one thing I cannot abide is repainting a car that was originally yellow in primer gray. What were they thinking?

I have to be honest: When I first clicked on this ad, I expected the interior of this car to be a lot worse than it is. I mean, yeah, there’s a huge gaudy subwoofer in the back, and some non-hidden wires running to it, but it’s mostly intact inside. The driver’s seat looks pretty worn, which makes me question the odometer reading; I have a feeling that the gauge cluster may have been changed out at some point and that it has more miles on it than are being reported. Still, for a car like this, it’s pretty nice inside. Clean it up a bit, and you could conceivably take this car on a date, which is a good benchmark for interior condition.

Apart from the fact that it’s no longer that glorious Honda yellow, it looks decent outside. It has been lowered, but that’s no surprise. The seller says it comes with “racing slicks,” by which I hope they don’t just mean bald front tires. Regardless, you should probably count on putting some decent rolling stock on it if you intend to drive it regularly.
So we have a stock Fiero in okay condition and better-than-it-could-be specification, and a CRX that has been, I won’t say ruined, but significantly altered. They both run and drive great, if the sellers are to be believed, and neither one of them seems like an outrageous price. Which way are you leaning?









CRX for me. Swapping in a B-series engine is a very common swap. And I like that it has a good stereo with a sub. I would change the exterior colour back to the stock yellow and put normal tires back on the front.
While America saw the CRX as a small commuter/shopper car, here in Europe it was a pocket-rocket coupe (especially the VTEC version)
I’ll take that one
I dunno. Stock for stock it would be the crx in a landslide. As they sit… I’d give a slight edge to the crx just because a messed with Honda might be okay, but a fiero will always be a fiero.
The questionable choices/ad on the crx have me second guessing myself though.
I feel like this has been done before either on this site or the german car part makers site
Saw the Fiero on CL the other day and hoped it would pop up here.
Also, oddly enough there’s someone in my area with a stash of 70s Celica parts selling off some stock: https://www.facebook.com/commerce/listing/3901470786651209
Why are there Washington plates on both purportedly Oregon cars? I know Oregon City is only about 15 miles S of the WA-OR border and Washington’s registration can be a bit lower than Oregon’s.
The mismatched wheels on the CRX are odd and I wish it hadn’t been lowered. But it still got my vote.
Yeah, I always liked these and was willing to risk 4000 fake internet dollars too..
Smog issues probably.
If it was just based on exterior shots I might take the Civic. I like the engine swap, and it’s not something stupid shoved in there. But the rest of the ad gives me pause and I don’t trust the current owner. Fiero it is.
I voted CRX… but ehhhhh as well. I def would pay to get a proper PPI on it, especially with that engine swap and possible gauge cluster issue and other shenanigans.
The car has Washington plates and is selling on Oregon City, while about 30 miles north to the Washington border from OC, the seller likely just bought this and never signed the title or registered it on Oregon, it could be “title jumped” for a flip or realized the car was crap and is trying to unload it …. red.flag.
Those WA plates apply to both cars today, though…
I’ve owned a Toronado, a Corvair, and a Volt. The Fiero completes my General Motors House of Oddities bingo card.
Would love a Fiero with the ’87 fastback styling, and not the TR7 looking stubby one – so CRX for me 🙂
The Iron Puke is not a ‘respectable’ engine for a family car. As I remember from my mother’s Celebrity equipped with one, the 0-60 time was like 16 seconds.
They don’t die! My s10 just gets louder when you floor it, but its a great driver
Fiero. It’s driven by the correct pair of wheels, and it’s less messed with. A friend in high school had one, it was a fun car. I’d lift it a bit and try to do some sort of a “rally” build.
I like CRXs. I was pretty sure I was going to vote CRX. But man that’s some janky CRX.
We got CRXs with rear seats.
I once gave a 5’9” guy a lift from Nottingham to somewhere in Suffolk, and he hugely regretted getting in the back, even with the front seat passenger all the way forwards.
So I pick the actual 2-seater.
Back in my college days, I fit seven people into my CRX to go get breakfast after a rave. Total clown car business.
Seven? Amazing!
I never once got as high as four, and it technically had four seats.
You know when you’re a kid and you get sick on something and then that something becomes a food that you never fuck with again, for life? This is one of those once bitten, twice shy scenarios for me. I’ve puked up Fiero before. Never again
As a teen, I was a huge fan of the CRX, both the super-high MPG version, and the cooler sporty SI. I cam here with my mind made up, but then I read the article.
Fiero it is.
Honestly…the Fiero. But only because you could take it down to the space frame and put your own body on it. You could also transplant any number of better powertrains than even this car’s 2.8-liter V6.
Cheap, modded cars are cheap for a reason. Fiero it is.
I rode in my buddy’s, father’s ’86 Fiero GT automatic with the V6 back in high school. I thought it would be really cool. I was not impressed. The dash looked a bit weird to me. It was sluggish off the line.
That CRX should be running away with this (in more ways than one), but it has been raced, and most definitely smells funny.
Tough call for me.
Update: The nose wins. Going with the likely less smelly Fiero, even though I’d love a good VTEC.
I have to pick the Fiero, just because it’s the blank slate that can become any other car in disguise! (I mean how many got turned into Ferrarieros?)
Fauxrrari
I need to own a mid-engined car at some point. So Fiero it is. Plus CRX’s have never been a big draw to me. I get why some people like them so much, I’m just not one of those people.
Tough call. Back in the ’90s a friend had a near identical Fiero and it was a lot of fun, even if the 4-speed wasn’t as good as the 5-speed. At the same time, the CRX is one of those cars I wanted back when it was new and would still enjoy owning today. But, I think I’m going Fiero because the CRX looks like it would be an endless nightmare of trying to fix the mistakes of the previous owners.
the Fiero looks like a barn find that was just fixed enough to get it running. it really needs a better detailer. The Honda can’t be fixed in the same manner. I guess Poncho today for me. I would definitely be looking into a 3.8 supercharged upgrade at some point, but with a little love and likely some more new rubber and plastic parts the fiero is likely the one to own.
I’m pretty sure the twin ashtrays on either side of every Fiero’s shifter came from the factory overflowing with butts, so kudos to the seller for at least cleaning those out…
Well, this was easy…I do like both but gotta go CRX! I look these up online every so often and want one eventually. They just look like such a blast to drive…plus the MPG would be great. It’s crazy how much they are now but I’ve seen prices all over the place; sometimes I’ll see one that’s in decent shape and is actually a decent price. That Fiero is pretty cool too