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Who Needs A Radiator? 1964 Chevrolet Corvair vs ‘1978’ VW Dune Buggy

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Welcome back! Today we’re looking at a pair of air-cooled projects, and in what might become a theme for the week, one is kinda normal and the other is out there a bit. You’ll see what I mean in a minute, but first, let’s see how our city cars fared yesterday:

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Yeah, I figured. But look at it from my perspective: if I find something like that ComutaCar for sale in our price range, I can’t not talk about it. You can’t ask a dog to ignore a bit of cheese that lands on the kitchen floor, and you can’t ask me to ignore a weird old electric car, no matter how little sense it makes.

In that spirit, I present to you today’s contestants. A Corvair is good enough on its own, but wait until you see this bizarre mutant of a dune buggy I found for sale. Let’s dive in.

1964 Chevy Corvair Monza – $2,500

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Engine/drivetrain: 2.7 liter air-cooled flat 6, 4 speed manual, RWD

Location: Happy Valley, OR

Odometer reading: unknown

Runs/drives? Will start, won’t stay running

Despite what killjoys and naysayers like Ralph Nader and Ford’s marketing department say, there’s a lot to like about the Chevy Corvair. Its styling was sharp, and got even better with the second generation, which almost never happens. It’s a fun car to toss around if you respect it and understand its handling. And because of its reputation, its value has stayed near the bottom of the classic car market.

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What we have here is a Corvair Monza two-door coupe, equipped with a 110 horsepower version of the Corvair’s signature flat six. It’s hooked to a four speed stick with a floor-mounted shifter, which, despite what Ford’s marketing team thought, was not “outdated” in the slightest. It’s what all the kids wanted. The Monza trim also included bucket seats and some other fancy interior bits. As a ’64 model, it also has a much tamer and more pleasant suspension setup than earlier Corvairs.

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This Corvair has been off the road since 1990, and as such, will need to have some work done on it before being put back into service. But the seller says they have gotten the engine to run from a separate fuel can, which is an encouraging sign. That means it has spark and compression, and now it just needs a steady supply of fuel. But brakes and other soft parts that haven’t been in service for 32 years are not to be trusted before a thorough inspection.

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At first I thought this car had an even coating of surface rust all over, but I think it was just a gold color that has faded to a dull rusty look. There is some rust on it, but it’s not bad at all. It’s hard to say how much of the existing interior will clean up, but the Corvair has remained popular enough that plenty of reproduction parts are available, including seat upholstery kits, and whatever mechanical bits you might need.

“1978” VW-Based Dune Buggy – $1,750

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Engine/drivetrain: flat 4 of unknown displacement, 4 speed manual, RWD

Location: Yamhill, OR

Odometer reading: unknown

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Runs/drives? Yes, but engine needs overhauling

This one had me scratching my head a bit, and I’m sure it will have the same effect on you all. What we have here is an obviously home-built VW-based dune buggy that has not been treated kindly at all in recent years. It looks like a piece of industrial equipment that someone parked behind the barn and forgot about.

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The seller gives us a little bit to go on, but gets a few things wrong as well. They’re calling this an “EMPI Imp Sportster,” but the Imp and the Sportster were two completely different things. The Imp was VW aftermarket supplier EMPI’s answer to (and ripoff of) the Meyers Manx, with a one-piece fiberglass body. The EMPI Sportster, which was introduced earlier (before the Manx even), used a steel body, more Jeep-like in construction, with flat front fenders and a folding windshield. It was available as a kit, but also as a set of plans for an enterprising do-it-yourselfer to cut the sheetmetal and build the body themselves.

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The seller says that this car is based on the mechanicals and floorplan of a Type 3 Squareback, and not a shortened Type 1 Beetle as the plans called for. I suspect that the builder of this car had a set of EMPI plans, a rusted-out or wrecked Type 3, and a lot of enthusiasm. They only broadly followed the plans, fudging where necessary to make things fit. The result is a sort of Brutalist interpretation of a dune buggy. It’s not unattractive, exactly, but it definitely feels industrial, or agricultural.

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The seller says it runs and drives, but smokes, so the engine needs overhauling. And somehow they managed to convince the Oregon DMV to title it as a 1978 Volkswagen, but listed as “reconstructed.” Thing is, the VW Squareback went out of production in 1973, so I’m not sure how that all works. Best not to ask, maybe.

[Editor’s Note: This thing is amazing. That’s clearly a Type 3 engine, which is why this hone-made airport tug-like beast has such a useful rear cargo tray. Also, I’m very curious where that instrument pod came from. It’s not a Type 3 or Ghia – not even sure it’s a VW? – JT]

Well, there they are: a more-or-less reasonable restoration project of a maligned American classic, or a home-brew mutt of a dune buggy that actually looks like a lot of fun. Which one are you taking home?

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(Image credits: Craigslist sellers)

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GertVAG
GertVAG
1 year ago

Would love to try out a beautiful Corvair flat 6, but the buggy is close second ! Love the looks and the practicality of it.

Knowonelse
Knowonelse
1 year ago

VW for sure! Especially since one of the few engines I understand is a VW Type 3. Just the kind of weirdness I like with an engine I like!

The Toecutter
The Toecutter
1 year ago

I’d totally take the buggy. I’d try to find a mechanical injection small Kubota tractor diesel for it and turn it into a post apocalyptic runabout. 17 horsepower might get this unaerodynamic deathtrap to 50 mph. That’s about all I’d want to go in it, and I say this as the King of Daily Drivable Deathtraps(check my profile if you don’t believe me). Then I could add in a small series-DC motor, a golf cart controller, and a small 48V 100AH pack of CALB LiFePO4 batteries, and throw some solar panels on the roof.

I’d have a vehicle that could run on solar electricity, diesel, biodiesel, kerosene, waste fryer oil, straight vegetable oil, brake fluid, automatic transmission fluid, natural gas, propane, or many combinations thereof. The only thing I couldn’t do is pedal it, unlike the custom build in my profile. But it would be apocalypse transportation par excellence with a variety of potential fuel sources.

Anti Autopian
Anti Autopian
1 year ago

What’s with all the Hot Chick-Pic, online work scammers sliding into the chat lately?

Anti Autopian
Anti Autopian
1 year ago

Two Death Traps, one vote.. What to do, what to do…..

05LGT
05LGT
1 year ago

Corvair. Once you sort the engine it’s fun to drive and memorable. Sure you’ll get to sort all kinds of other issues. That’s character.
Someone else’s Frankencar that isn’t running may never have run and may need a full back to the drawing board design reset before it works.

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
1 year ago

The Corvair is the easy choice for me. If you fix it up, it will actually be worth something and/or be something usable.

Iwannadrive637
Iwannadrive637
1 year ago

Corvair. I know they had issues. I also know that if you give me a helmet, roll cage, and enough money, I can roll any car over.

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
1 year ago

“Dune buggy”
The sense of accomplishment or even the thrill of death cheating survival would be akin to skydiving with a parachute from the Goodwill. A round trip to the mailbox would be an event. Slow car fast wouldn’t even begin to encompass the essence of this.
And it’s orange!

unclesam
unclesam
1 year ago

The Corvair is the rare GM product that I find has some inherent appeal (which can probably be read as “weirdness” if I’m honest), particularly by contrast to the Falcon. I still had to take the obvious contrarian view and vote for dune buggy deathtrap. Unsafer at any speed!

OpposedPiston
OpposedPiston
1 year ago

The way I look at it, you’ve got nothing to lose with the dune buggy. If you had a vintage buggy with actual pedigree and perfect paint, you’d be scared to really throw it into anything. With that spray-painted masterpiece up there, you’d be more likely to drive it like DT’s old CJ. Six feet of standing water? Sure, why not. I can hold my breath. Right over the top of the sand dune at WOT? Sure, why not. I just added another stick of steel to the roll cage last night. If anything bends, you either hammer it out with the 3lb hand sledge you keep zip-tied to the passenger floor, or you use that new dent as a mounting point for another piece of reinforcement added with your $90 Harbor Freight welder.

So, go nuts with it. Use it as a tug to move your non-running jeeps around your spacious suburban lot. Go to an off road park and see just how stuck you can get it. Take it to the grocery store and see if you can get a dozen eggs home intact.

Nlpnt
Nlpnt
1 year ago

I’d vote Corvair if the box still came up for me. I’d prefer a 4-door with its’ flattop roofline and better proportions vs the short-hood/long-deck coupe, but I still have an easier time with the early Vair coupes’ club-cab-pickup proportions than I would with someone else’s 40 year old homebrew welding.

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