Gas prices are high, and that has lots of folks making knee-jerk car decisions. I’m an enginerd, so I don’t do “knee jerk” (unless I find a holy grail, of course); I’m the kind of person who likes to run the numbers. So let’s dig into whether my wife (and I; we’re a unit, you see) should trade in her excellent 2017 Lexus RX350 for a vehicle that most car reviewers don’t like — a Lexus RZ450E.
The last-gen Lexus RX is a car that, I have to admit, I used to find a bit boring. But then, as part of a “One Car Challenge” in which my city paid my wife and me to drive only a single vehicle for a month, I started driving the Lexus, and I began to realize that a vehicle that fulfills its intended function this well is worthy of respect.
Here’s what I wrote after I drove my wife’s car for a few weeks:
The leather seats are comfortable and feel durable — they’re heated, cooled, and power-adjustable with memory function. They’re excellent seats in an excellent cabin in a car that floats quietly like a magic carpet…
It’s an excellent car, and Lexus should be commended for building something that perfectly aligns with what [my wife] and so many other consumers are looking for: The ultimate no-bullshit luxury SUV. That’s what the Lexus RX350 is. You buy it, you’re comfortable, you’re confident, you’re safe, you rarely have to worry about significant mechanical issues, the dealership will give you a great service experience (my girlfriend actually enjoys going to the Lexus dealer, which says a lot about what Lexus is doing right), and the car just demonstrates its competence every time you’re behind the wheel. It fades into the background, and lets you live a life where cars are not at the forefront.
I wrote that review two years ago, and to this day I maintain that her car is excellent. The only major issue we have had are the front brake rotors, which are hideously warped after being changed only two years ago. But that’s not the car’s fault, that’s the fault of whoever did the repair. [Checks notes; oh crap, that was me using Advance Auto Parts components!].

Anyway, we find ourselves deciding whether or not we want to trade in this magnificent machine, not because gas prices are high, but because my wife, Elise (not her real name), likes the idea of going electric after driving around my i3, and she would like something newer.
In The Eyes Of Many, The Lexus RX Is The Hero, The RZ Is The Zero
If you read reviews of the fourth-gen Lexus RX, you’ll see a lot of journalists singing the car’s praises, just as I did. But if you read reviews of the Lexus RZ — Lexus’ first electric vehicle — you’ll see the opposite. People deride it. And the reason, primarily, is the range, which sits below 200 miles for the RZ450E on 20″ wheels. In the winter, 150 might even be a stretch.
This may have you a bit confused. David, why would Elise ever think about trading a universally beloved SUV for a universally loathed one that, by the way, is actually a bit smaller?
Well, hear me out.
An EV Might Be The Cheapest Way To Upgrade To A Newer Car

Rather than fearing the Lexus RZ’s range limitations, I think my wife and I can actually take advantage of them. Specifically, I think we can leverage the RZ’s dramatic drop in resale value — something that seems rather common for modern EVs sold in the U.S. — in our favor, especially considering our lifestyle that works well with even a mediocre-range EV.

Check out the two depreciation curves above from Car Edge. The first is that of an RZ, the second is that of an RX350. Despite being nine years old, Elise’s $50,000, nine year-old Lexus’ value is somehow not that far off the value of a $60,000, three-year old Lexus RZ — largely because the RX’s curve not only lacks that initial steep drop, but also features a shallower slope over the span of 10 years.
She’s been offered over $20,000 for her car, while Lexus RZs are trading all day for between $27,000 and $30,000:

Being able to trade a 2017 gas SUV for a certified pre-owned 2023 electric SUV (with a six-year, unlimited-mile warranty) from the same brand without having to pay even $10,000 is pretty remarkable. And yes, the RX is a bit bigger inside, but it’s not that much bigger.
Still, $10 grand is nothing to scoff at, and it’s worth analyzing whether it’s worth it. The goal with the RZ is twofold: 1. My wife wants a new car. Some of that has to do with her car’s lack of modern infotainment (it has only basic Bluetooth capabilities with no CarPlay or Android Auto), and some of that may have to do with the car just feeling old for aesthetic or other reasons. To be honest, I’m not entirely sure I fully understand the desire for a newer car if that desire isn’t based on specific features, but I also buy a new junker every few years, so who am I to judge? The second reason we’re considering the RZ is that we have a Level 2 charger at home, and she’s a stay-at-home mom with no commute, so we’d like to avoid having to spend money on gas and maintenance.
So let’s just dig into those two reasons and see if the RZ makes sense.
The RZ: A Huge Step Up In Modernity For Shockingly Little Money
Viewed through the eyes of a Lexus fan for whom range isn’t a huge concern, the RZ seems like an amazing proposition. Here’s a look at the Lexus RX’s cabin:

And here’s the RZ’s:

The RX’s cabin was developed for the 2016 model year, and I have to hand it to Lexus — it still looks nice, and its standard “PRNDL” shifter works well while offering no discernible disadvantage over the RZ’s rather large dial+button shifter. As for features, the RX has Adaptive Cruise Control, Heated and Cooled Seats, Lane Departure Alert, a nice 12.3-inch color display, but a fairly primitive infotainment system that allows for Bluetooth connectivity to a phone, and a super basic backup camera. Here’s a look at the vehicle’s infotainment screen:

Meanwhile, the Lexus RZ features a lot more active safety features that annoy the everliving bejesus out of both my wife and me (constantly beeping and booping all over the place), but crucially, it has a great 360-degree camera and a 14-inch infotainment screen that comes equipped with Apple CarPlay.

Now, this might lead you to say: “Well, why not just get the RX detailed and upgrade the infotainment system?” That’s a good point, and after talking with our resident infotainment nerd, Thomas, I learned that there is a kit that would upgrade the RX to have Apple Carplay:

$600 to bring a nine-year-old car into modernity? Seems like a good deal, because powertrain-wise, the Lexus’s V6 and eight-speed automatic seem modern enough for a gas, non-hybrid car.
What’s more, this would fix my wife’s biggest complaint with her RX, without adding all the fussiness of the RZ’s infotainment system. From my RZ review:
And in many ways, the RZ feels just like an electric version of her RX. The ride quality is exceptional, the cabin is quiet as a confessional, the seats are cushy, every surface feels high-quality, front visibility is great, the seating position is high enough, acceleration is decent — it hits all the high spots a traditional Lexus driver would want. But sadly, I think the infotainment system falls short.
Notice how there are only a few physical buttons — two climate control temperature dials, a volume dial, a couple of defrost buttons, a park assist button, and a camera button. For conservative, well-heeled (and usually older) Lexus buyers, this just seems like a misstep. Which 30 year old is buying this Lexus RZ whose technology is years behind the likes of Lucid, Tesla, Hyundai, and others? Nobody. This car is being purchased by people who drive Toyotas and other Lexuses; they want the vehicle to be luxurious, reliable, and simple to use. Maybe I’m wrong and Lexus has customer clinic data that disagrees with me, but it seems to me that the last thing a Lexus owner want is to have to deal with all the controls being on a touchscreen, a shifter that require a how-to video, and a bunch of beeping and booping electronic nannies.
What About The RZ’s Running-Cost Savings?

Now let’s talk about the money side of things. To trade Elise’s $20,000 RX for, say, a typical 2023 RZ, would cost us $9000. But is it worth it? Ignoring all the emotions of it all, will we recoup these $9000 in savings somehow?
Let’s assume Elise drives 8,000 miles a year, which is a bit lower than average, but makes sense for the suburban lifestyle we’re living here outside of LA. Her RX, realistically, gets about 20 MPG around town, and with fuel at $5.50 a gallon and climbing, that means we’re spending $2,200 a year on fuel.
Meanwhile, energy prices sit around 25c per kWh, and the RZ can easily manage 3 miles per kWh. Again, assuming 8,000 miles per year, that’s 2666.67 kWh, which cost $666.67, for a savings of $1,533 annually in fuel costs.
Add maintenance to the gas car, factor in increased tire wear for the RZ (on 18-inch wheels), and factor in the RZ’s higher insurance costs and registration costs, and we’re probably saving about $1000 a year at least. If we own the car for nine years like we have her RX, then yeah, we basically make up the cost of buying the RZ, and all the while my wife enjoys a new car that has integrated CarPlay, a nice overhead 360-degree camera, drives incredibly smoothly, and is theoretically helping the environment a bit.
Of course, then there’s the resale side of the equation, and that’s where the business case for the RZ falls flat. It may save us money in terms of operating costs, but if in nine years Elise wants another car, that RZ is likely to be a fairly weak trade-in. In fact, I’d venture to say that, by 2035, her 18-year-old 2017 Lexus RX350 will likely be worth more than the 12-year-old RZ. How much more? I’m not sure. The longer we keep the RZ, the less that matters, because both vehicles will eventually be worth so little that the delta will be negligible. But my point is: Buying the RZ to save money may sound smart with high gas prices right now, but in reality, the numbers aren’t going to work out.
Still, Elise could significantly upgrade her daily driver to something she’ll probably enjoy driving more each day, and it’s basically going to be a negligible expense in the end, if any. And that alone has me convinced this is probably the right move, as I suspected it would be when the two of us went on a romantic birthday drive to wine country a few years ago. From that review:
In a year or two, I bet these will dip into the $20,000 range. And Elise’s 2017 RX only has 42,000 miles on it; she should be able to trade that thing in for $20 grand at least:
All in, she’d pay probably less than $10,000 to upgrade from a 2017 to a 2023, she’d save money on running costs, and she’d finally have Apple Carplay and other modern tech. As someone who has a place to plug in at home, and who regularly commutes only a few miles a day, she just doesn’t need a gas car. The Lexus will be perfect for her; she became a fan after our Solvang trip (she didn’t find the bings and boops and nannies too bad), and assuming she enjoys driving it (I drove the whole trip) and the car keeps depreciating, why the heck not?
We’ll have to make sure the RZ’s size works for her, but the range shouldn’t be a concern, and I have no doubt she’ll be delighted driving electric all day, as I myself find it to be a lot more relaxing than commuting in an ICE car.
So we’re probably going to pull the trigger, though maybe we should do so soon, because if fuel prices keep rising, maybe RZs will actually appreciate a bit.








Elise (Not her real name) should have been Alexus (Not her real name). Also I think Delmar(Not his real name) should go by Willys(Not his real name) so in future articles you can use the Watchu Talking ’bout Willys.
The math don’t math, you’re just justifying why a new car is betterrr despite being more complicated, not necessarily dead reliable like the outgoing RX. Yes the infotainment is modernized, but it’s also heavily integrated into the vehicle systems. There’s way more thing than can and will glitch/brick/break over time. SDVs are very problematic in this regard. You’ll also be renting a road trip car from here on out so there goes a bunch of the potential long term savings.
If you’re going to do it anyway, just admit to yourself you are okay with buying a new car for the sake of having a newer looking car. If this was really about converting to an EV and saving money, there’s $15k Model 3’s that are acceptable 4 wheel appliances.
In my opinion, resale value shouldn’t be too big a part of the equation. Most cars are not purchased for investment purposes. If you trade up and get 10 years of enjoyment out of a new car, it’s worth the money you “lose”.
It’s like I always say: if you buy something nicer than you need, because you want it, and you pay more than you were expecting, you may have buyer’s remorse walking out the door. But when you skimp and underbuy on something to save a few bucks, you’ll often end up with buyer’s remorse for the entire time you own that thing.
I haven’t worked on an RZ yet, but I’ve worked on a couple of BeesForks and Solterras and I will say that this family of vehicles has the best feeling cockpit of any EV on the market. They balance familiarity with futuristic feel, resulting in a relatively conservative design compared to, say Tesla or the Mustang Mach-E, but you have physical buttons and controls, the touchscreen isn’t the centerpiece of the cockpit, the seats are nice and the surfaces feel and look good. They’re solid cars, but they’re just too firmly lodged in the middle of the pack to stand out.
I think its a rule that if you live in LA you must have an electric car. You made the right choice. For the rest of the country not so much.
The only thing I’d say is that you will no longer have a safe modern road-trip-able car, but if that’s not something you need/want then do it. At some point you will upgrade your car(s) nothing is forever, and its completely reasonable to do this especially when this isn’t a fun weekend toy, or something very special.
No.. didn’t you just have a kid? And now you’re gonna buy another expensive car when you already have a expensive new car. You guys will lose a lot of money and be spending a lot more too. Just get a Camry hybrid or a used EV and call it a day.
This is a used EV
What Forrest said. It’s basically going to cost us nothing.
Does anyone think modern Toyota/Lexus yells at you way too much??
I got an RX as a loaner and yes, as someone who just got in and drove without a manual, it beeped and tried to get in the way of my driving way too much.
I was trying to back my family’s TX into the garage and, between screaming beeps and auto braking, it was like pulling a stubborn mule. It was admittedly tight, but as someone who actually knew the dimensions of the garage and the vehicle, the TX thought it knew better.
I upgraded the head unit in my Vibe to an upsized, vibe/matrix specific android unit and it completely changed how I feel about it. It is still an econobox with not great NVH, but feels loads more modern. I agree with others that the math isn’t mathing here…how much maintenance does that Toyota v6 actually need?
People should drive what they want, full stop. But replacing a car over the infotainment is not a very engineer-y move.
I’d assume that the actual owners of the car probably know more about their maintenance costs than us random internet commenters.
yeah. it is so hard to figure out oil changes and brakes on a quite proven, reliable drivetrain.
the bronze-and-black colorway is GORGEOUS.
I daily drive an EV and enjoy it very much. Even so, keep the RX and upgrade the infotainment.
The math ain’t mathing here, and at some point you will wish you had the extra range.
If it was a straight across trade, it “might” make sense, but even with gas prices climbing, CA electricity rates are already super high ($0.25/kWh as you said), and those will keep climbing too.
Just update the screen to squeeze a few more years out of the RX and get an off-lease Rivian R2 in like 2030.
$0.25/kWh sounds low for CA. I would love to pay only $0.25/kWh, over here in Massachusetts paying $0.33/kWh. For the efficiency of my Y Performance, I was coming out on par with fuel/electric costs of 87 octane in my previous turbo 4 cyl Sonata N Line when gas prices were around $3+ per gallon. I drove 24k miles the first year with my Y Performance. On paper, I was saving a few hundred dollars per year but the Tesla efficiency numbers don’t calculate all of the other electricity charging loses or pre-conditioning that definitely costs money. Even then, at a wash or slightly more expensive to run, I much prefer driving the Y Performance.
How is not farting out tons of CO2 “theoretically helping the environment a bit”? There’s nothing theoretical about the ill effects of greenhouse gas emissions. (Which is why the plan for getting an EV is awesome — even if this one doesn’t have great range.)
The RX isn’t going to stop emitting CO2 just because he trades it in.
True … but … I’m not sure I see it that way either. When I lease a new EV I think that its a net good putting an additional EV into the user base, including whatever comes after my time with the vehicle. Sure, selling the RX means someone else will (presumably) keep driving it, but it is sending the car down the depreciation chain. There is something to be said for trimming your own emissions.
So far, more EVs being driven has reduced the number of ICE cars being driven. I think that’s how it will work unless there’s a significant increase in drivers on the road.
I try to keep my opinions (e.g. excess CO2 is warming the planet) to a minimum on this website, but I just wanted to say I agree with you. I’ve prevented the emission of a few tons of CO2 by flogging my EVs on the racetrack in lieu of driving gas cars there. Though just staying home might have been a better choice for the environment. I had fun without much CO2-farting though!
That does sound like fun! (I’ve found that commenters on this site tend to support/upvote posts expressing climate concern rather than challenging them, which has been a gradual shift from reactions in past years — and which I find heartening.)
Fine Sir,
Firstly, don’t cheap out on Lexus or Toyota parts. It’s false economy!
Second, do the Car Play upgrade and keep the RX for longer trips
Third, As much as you love the i3 that’s the car to swap out. Either that or add the RZ to the collection.
We have had two of the RZ450e AWD leases as my wife works at a Lexus dealership. They are great cars if you can live without a glovebox and rear wiper, you’re in SoCal, you’ll be fine without any wipers lol.
If you find the buttons clumsy you can also use voice control either with Siri or I think native to the car itself.
It is a great car, but not but not a great EV, if you can live with that, I’d get one. If you want more range get the FWD version.
Carplay upgrade. And for God’s sake, do not cheap out on a critical component like brake rotors from ANY auto parts store brand. I know someone will say, “but my rotors from store XYZ have been awesome at half the price!” Maybe so. But Bosch and other reputable brands aren’t much more and are a far more likely to last.
I cheaped out on my kids’s battery form Auzozone and we are about to return his 2nd one this week. Each one has lasted only a year. In the end, it wasn’t worth the hassle.
Yes. In the past, I believe you could get parts that were on par with OEM quality, not anymore. You are much better off looking online and finding the cheapest dealer group selling genuine OEM parts locally or online (watch out for shipping costs) and not dealing with the hassle. I am lucky to be near one of the warehouses for a major online reseller of OEM parts, I have been able to buy online and pick up in person to avoid huge shipping/handling costs.