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I Sat In The Slate Truck And Now I Think It Might Actually Succeed

Slate Might Succeed Ts

One of the biggest questions in the automotive world for 2026 is whether Slate’s electric pickup will succeed. It was revealed just over a year ago, and back then, the U.S. still had a federal tax credit that would push the truck’s price to around $20,000. It was a glimmer of hope in a world where affordability is at the front of mind for buyers, with fewer and fewer options to choose from.

Now that tax credit is gone, demand for EVs in general has flattened out in the United States. Our very own David Tracy argued, perhaps rightly, that the Slate truck would be a far more appropriate “people’s car” if it just had a simple, four-cylinder gas engine rather than an EV powertrain. He also argued that such a bare-bones vehicle, which doesn’t come standard with stuff like a stereo or exterior paint, simply isn’t competitive against entry-level crossovers or its most direct competitor, the Ford Maverick.

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David made some great points in that post, and I don’t necessarily disagree with them. But I also don’t think it’s fair to count out the truck entirely. I feel especially strongly about that after spending some time actually sitting in a Slate prototype, and speaking to its designers.

The Right Size And The Right Shape

The Slate truck has a simple, straightforward mission: To offer one of the most affordable new vehicles on the market that people will actually like. That means it has to appeal to a wide range of buyers, which requires a bit of a balancing act.

“We knew that this thing had to at least be customizable from the ground up, so we wanted to have something that’s very simple, yet, I would say timeless,” says Gus Bizyk, Slate’s head of exterior design. “That way, it doesn’t stick to a certain time period.”

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Source: Brian Silvestro

Slate’s whole schtick is that pretty much everything you see on the truck is customizable in some way. You can add wraps to the unpainted composite body panels, switch out the fascia, bolt accessories to the dashboard, and even turn the truck into a two-door SUV with a set of rear seats. The company’s configurator tool is one of the most detailed I’ve seen outside of internal tools for hyper-exotic carmakers.

When Bizyk brought this up, I immediately thought about the Slate’s perfectly round headlights. I’d argue that the prettiest cars ever built all have round headlights, and that the automotive sector’s move away from round headlights was where we started going wrong as a society. So I asked whether the truck’s round headlights were purposeful in winning people over. Bizyk brought it back to customization possibilities:

“We knew that we wanted to make this thing as customizable as possible. 
So one of the things that we noticed in the very beginning, a seven-inch round [headlight], if you go online, you’ll be able to find a whole vast area of different types of aftermarket headlights,” he told me. “So with that in mind, you know, we want to make this thing, I would say, customizable. But also, I would actually use the term open source. That’s the thing. We want to be able to have people 3D-print parts, but also buy whatever they find alluring online, and just be able to place it in. So those are the things that we’re working on for this.”

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Source: Brian Silvestro

This level of customization, where buyers can easily swap out things like headlights, grille pieces, interior trim, and even body panels with little more than a few hand tools, does more than just give people the opportunity to customize their rigs. It also unlocks the ability for owners to upgrade their cars as new and improved accessories and tech become available. I asked Slate’s head interior designer, Aaron Gold, about the standard phone mount, and he told me that the actual size of the mount is still being finalized. But even after it hits production, it can still evolve and be easily switched out by customers.

“One of the coolest things is that the way the dashboard is designed,” he told me. “[The phone mount] isn’t integrated into the vehicle, right? So it’s something that I can change with technology. So if in a year we’re using some magical little floating guy who’s an AI [chatbot instead of our phones], we can make that work, right? So we’re not locked in, which is something that’s super cool.”

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Here’s a photo I took of myself with my phone resting in the Slate’s phone mount, just to give you an idea of the position and angle. Source: Brian Silvestro

This, to me, is the main reason I think fleets and commercial users will be intrigued by the Slate truck. The ability to upgrade parts as necessary to keep up with their specific use cases feels like an appealing trait and signals that the Slate isn’t the type of vehicle that needs to be quickly disposed of after a few years of service. Plus, fleets can easily repair and replace damaged panels on the fly, which means less downtime spent at body shops.

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The base steelies with a bit of flash from the “magma” colored wrap. Source: Brian Silvestro

For retail buyers, this goes back to one of Slate’s principal arguments about offering a wide range of accessories. Owners will only buy the stuff they truly want, and none of the stuff they don’t.

“Typically, you’d say, ‘I’m just, I just need this, right? A vehicle that gets me from A to B,'” says Meredith Alves, Slate’s head of Color, Material, and Finish. “But you happen to want, like, the stitch or something, and then all of a sudden you’re given all these features that you’re like, ‘I’ll never use that.”

I Don’t Mind The Interior, But It’ll Be A Shock For Normies

One of the big arguments David made in his Slate post was that the interior was too bare-bones to be competitive in the cheap car segment. And he’s right in the sense that there is basically nothing to the Slate’s cabin. There’s a steering wheel with cruise control functions, a column shifter (nice), three knobs for climate control, and a couple of buttons on the left for stuff like turning off traction control and opening the frunk.

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There’s really not much to this cabin, and that’s the beauty of it. Source: Brian Silvestro

For me, as a person who both loves old trucks and often spends time in stripped-out, basic vehicles, this is a welcome sight. A vehicle with no screen, a round wheel, and analog HVAC controls is incredibly refreshing in a world dominated by seas of touch-capacitive buttons and gigantic screens.

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There wasn’t much lumbar support, but this is a prototype car so who knows how the seats will change when they actually enter production. Source: Brian Silvestro

The seats are fully manual and covered in a stitched fabric instead of fake leather, which warms my heart. Famously, there are manual crank windows in place of power-operated units. The SUV version I got to spend time in had a rear bench, which had absolutely zero amenities aside from a couple of cupholders. It’s a minimalist’s dream car.

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Who doesn’t love a set of simple, straightforward knobs? Source: Brian Silvestro

The thing is, the average buyer is now used to seeing screens and buttons everywhere, so seeing a truck without any of that stuff might be jarring. Sure, you can add some of that stuff back in, but it comes at a cost. Every accessory is an optional extra, adding to the bottom line of a car that’s supposed to be one of the most affordable vehicles in America. As David pointed out, you get a lot less content per dollar versus something like a Maverick. And the downside of nothing being integrated into the dash means it’ll be a hodge-podge of bolt-ons you’re looking at, not a cohesive, sleek dash with an integrated screen.

Coming At The Right Time

There is hope for Slate, though. Over 100,000 people put down reservations for the truck in the first few weeks following its announcement. The disappearing federal tax credit may have killed some of its momentum, but that’s still a lot of potential buyers showing interest. It’s not a make-or-break statistic, but it’s proof that people are interested in the concept.

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Source: Brian Silvestro

While demand for electric vehicles is slowing down compared to last year, it’s possible things could turn around, thanks to the conflict in Iran. Rising gas prices have resulted in a surge in interest from buyers for “electrified” models, including hybrids and full-on EVs. Hell, even I’d consider an EV after having to drop $111 to fill up my Audi’s gas tank over the weekend. I wanted to throw up.

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Also note the diesel price of $5.79 a gallon. Glad I don’t have the TDI engine. Source: Brian Silvestro

These gas prices aren’t set to go away any time soon, which means people who probably thought they wouldn’t own a Slate because it was no longer the $20,000 deal the company advertised might reconsider when they get the email later this year that their car is ready for delivery. But even if those people want an EV, would they actually choose the Slate? Perhaps. But also, perhaps not.

There Are Still Questions

Even if you’re sold on the accessories, you might not be sold on Slate’s fundamentals. There are just two battery sizes available right now: A standard range setup that’s good for 150 miles of range, or an extended-range battery that Slate says can go 240 miles on a charge.

Neither of those numbers is great. The Chevy Bolt, the cheapest EV currently on sale in America, starts at nearly the same price as the base Slate truck, and it gets 262 miles to a charge—that’s more range than the Slate offers, even with the optional battery. Sure, it doesn’t have nearly as much utility, but it does come standard with a better-equipped interior, more doors, and more seats.

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My favorite feature: Roll-up windows. This one felt excellent to use. Also note the diesel price of $5.79 a gallon. Glad I don’t have the TDI engine. Source: Brian Silvestro

The base 150-mile rating might’ve been acceptable 10 years ago, but these days, even the 240-mile range will have many buyers second-guessing their decisions. A decade ago, there wasn’t a swath of used, highly affordable EVs for people to shop against new models, either. In this price range, you have to assume people are shopping new and used to extract the best value. Why buy a Slate truck when, for a few thousand bucks more, I can get a whole-ass used F-150 Lightning instead? And if you don’t absolutely need an EV, certified pre-owned Mavericks are thousands cheaper than the most affordable Slate truck.

Whether high oil prices and the ability to easily customize and repair the Slate truck are enough to win over buyers from established brands is unclear right now. But I think there’s a lot to like about Slate, especially if you need a fleet of trucks that don’t travel huge distances every day. Given the truck’s small size, I could see them taking over the contractor arena in metropolitan areas with ease. With deliveries still set for Q4 of 2026, we won’t have to wait long to find out.

Top graphic image: Brian Silvestro

 

 

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MDMK
MDMK
1 month ago

Maybe I missed it, but given a screen is mandated for the backup camera, I assume the small digital display ahead of the steering wheel serves that purpose.
As for the Slate’s range,150 to 240 miles isn’t bad for a basic four wheeled brick that is unlikely to be used for intercity trips at interstate speeds.

World24
World24
1 month ago

The hardest thing about the Slate is the convincing they’ll have to do to the public who continue to push the most b.s. narratives in existence.
“I need a crew cab just in case I have a family”, “I travel 500 miles a day”, etc.
They won’t be able to do it.
I do appreciate you mentioning the Maverick though. I’m shocked the prices on those came down as much as they did (or at least compared to what I thought they were). It’s interesting!

DONALD FOLEY
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DONALD FOLEY
1 month ago
Reply to  World24

Certified Mavericks aren’t so attractively priced anywhere near me.

World24
World24
1 month ago
Reply to  DONALD FOLEY

A CPO 40-ish thousand mile 2022 Maverick hybrid is for sale within 100 miles of me for like the original 22k MSRP.
I remember when used Mavericks were going for more than brand new units: that ‘ish was crazy!

DONALD FOLEY
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DONALD FOLEY
1 month ago
Reply to  World24

Searching for similar criteria, none of 2022 but three 2023 at $28,788, $29,000, and $29,838.

4jim
4jim
1 month ago

People talk like there are unlimited cheap used specific makes and models of cars to satisfy any and all demand. Also fleet buyers often do not buy used cars and trucks.

I have hopes this vehicle succeeds.

I also know that Amazon has enough money that they could sell these at a loss for a long time until they are well established just like all the other tech sector disruptions (taxi anyone?)

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago
Reply to  4jim

Hey last mile delivery independent delivery drivers

Needles Balloon
Needles Balloon
1 month ago

What’s likely to dominate reviews is the range. With the EPA refusing to break out city/highway range ratings and the Slate’s brick-like aerodynamics, highway range is unlikely to hit 200mi even with the big battery. It might even struggle to hit 150mi at 75mph. They really need to design a few first-party aerodynamic accessories, like an obtrusive but easily detachable spoiler and/or a sloping bed cover and give them to reviewers to prove that the range problem can be improved.

RataTejas
RataTejas
1 month ago

Slate Roadrunner. Aero nose cone and giant wing.

Nick Fortes
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Nick Fortes
1 month ago
Reply to  RataTejas

haha! That reminds me, last week I saw a dude at the gas station across from my job in a newer Challenger and he had a nose cone and huge Roadrunner wing on it, painted blue with the 43 on the door.

RecoveringGTV6MaratonaOwner
RecoveringGTV6MaratonaOwner
1 month ago
Reply to  Nick Fortes

There was a new orange one always parked on the street in my neighborhood growing up(I’m old) and I’m still surprised by how much they are worth now.

Hoser68
Hoser68
1 month ago

The key to this truck is all going to all depend on if it becomes a Fad.

The math doesn’t work for this truck for a normal consumer. I need a vehicle that can carry 2 people normally and 3 perhaps in a pinch. By the time I get an SUV version of this, I can likely get an Equinox EV. If I want something funkier looking, Ioniq 5s exist for about the same money. And they all have power windows and more range

However, fads happen. I remember when VW couldn’t keep New Beetles in Stock, but were putting cash on the hoods of Golfs, that were the same car, but with a practical body shape. I’ve read about Ford struggling to sell Falcons, cutting off 2 doors and making the trunk smaller and then struggling to keep up with demand for the resulting Mustang.

This little truck has potential to be a fad. I can’t say if it will or not, but there’s a chance. If it becomes THE thing to own, Slate will have a hard time keeping up with demand, regardless of specs.

As for the specs, they are plenty good enough for the only logical buyers. Commercial customers. The local NAPA needs a truck to replace their ancient Rangers to run parts to the repair shops. This would work. A local Florist needs a delivery vehicle to replace the clapped out NV200. This would work (with SUV kit). etc.

FleetwoodBro
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FleetwoodBro
1 month ago
Reply to  Hoser68

We want a small city car for errands/doctors/dog transportation etc. We have another vehicle for road trips and it has all the doodads of which I use almost none. I’d go for a Bolt or a hybrid Corolla, but I ask myself, do I want to walk into a Chevy/Toyota dealer and once again contend with all the bullshit? I do not. Also, speaking frankly, do I really want to drive around in a Bolt? Not really. What about a Tesla? Never. The Slate is looking very good to me.

Hoser68
Hoser68
1 month ago
Reply to  FleetwoodBro

To me the Slate is a perfect second vehicle for so many applications.

The problem is price.

Before DJT’s war on tax credits, the Slate was supposed to be around $20k without any options. $20k is an interesting place to be. My last rental was a Tucson, which was as Meh as I could ask for. It would do for a second vehicle for me. Not looking hard, I found a 2024 with 51k miles and a CPO for $20k If there was a Slate for the same price, I would look at it, give up features to gain less miles.

But without the rebate, say the Slate is $27500. I can get a new Trax for less than that. If I want to go with a Toyota, under 10k mile CorollaCross, If I want to get an EV, I can find very low mileage Equinox EVs. Suddenly the idea of looking at a barebones truck with roll up windows and no paint seems not so interesting.

(I stuck with SUVs for the comparison since so many get them).

Space
Space
1 month ago
Reply to  Hoser68

Yea but when this is used it will be even cheaper and probably more reliable.

Hoser68
Hoser68
1 month ago
Reply to  Space

I don’t know about more reliable. I expect the first year or so will be less reliable. As for cost, I really don’t know.

If you want a small pickup (Maverick), at least locally, you don’t save much money getting used, especially since Ford is Truck Monthing again. So that’s one item of input.

However, if you want an EV, like an Equinox EV, you can save 30% or more if you get a 1 year old model with 5k miles on it. So that’s another item of input.

If the Slate devalues like an EV, it will be a hell of a deal on the used market, if it devalues like a pickup, it won’t be.

SAABstory
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SAABstory
1 month ago

So no panel van option for a sweet mural. Disappointed.

Lockleaf
Lockleaf
1 month ago
Reply to  SAABstory

You should be able to put a wrap over the window though, so while you would have some lines to contend with, you could still pull it off.

Hoser68
Hoser68
1 month ago
Reply to  SAABstory

If you can paint a mural, you can build a wooden box to stick it on.

Potatomafia
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Potatomafia
1 month ago
Reply to  SAABstory

There is a “van” option, but it’s buried in the Fleet menu at the bottom of their website:
https://imgur.com/a/0EGSoYK

Lockleaf
Lockleaf
1 month ago

I can’t say I’m optimistic, but I am hopeful. I really want this thing to fly. I’m 90% their perfect demographic, with one key failure. I don’t ever spend more than a few grand on a car. I don’t buy new cars. But if I were buying a NEW commuter, I would be very interested in a Slate. Lack of pointless tech really calls to me. The whole design ethos is great, like purposefully using 7 inch round headlights so people have access to all those options. Thats awesome.

William Domer
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William Domer
1 month ago
Reply to  Lockleaf

I hear you about a few grand for a car. But this dang thing appeals to me in a way the original beetle did and why the Citroen 2cV is something I lust after. It is anti consumption consumption. Maybe the payment each month would roughly be the cost of petrol for the Lexus beast. Even If not it would be great to have a non polluting grocery/hardware store/ nursery city transportation device. In the world of make believe I would
Def get it in Gulf Livery blue With an Orange stripe and Orange wheels.

RecoveringGTV6MaratonaOwner
RecoveringGTV6MaratonaOwner
1 month ago
Reply to  William Domer

I think we just found Torch’s secret account.:) At least based on your taste in cars.

Last edited 1 month ago by RecoveringGTV6MaratonaOwner
RecoveringGTV6MaratonaOwner
RecoveringGTV6MaratonaOwner
1 month ago
Reply to  William Domer

BTW, you can buy a Gulf livery NATO strap for your watch on Amazon that even has the thin black lines between the blue and orange. I have one on my Speedmaster and it’s glorious. It takes some serious patience and scrolling to find it but it’s there. I was just looking for the colors when it magically appeared toward the end of the color options on ONE company’s straps

Last edited 1 month ago by RecoveringGTV6MaratonaOwner
M SV
M SV
1 month ago

I think they will succeed in fleets and trades. It’s a great idea it’s just might not be all that cost competitive. It really needs to be around $20k. The van setup right now at $30k could be a winner for the trades and fleets with no real options for a small van. I’m sure the modular option is a selling point for many it just might be a pay more for less situation for a while. I expect they will figure out economies of scale take advantage of cheaper batteries and maybe the 2029 will be a winner for everyone.

Last edited 1 month ago by M SV
Alpscarver
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Alpscarver
1 month ago

Would be great to get an article about internal tools for hyper-exotic carmakers

Dan G.
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Dan G.
1 month ago

Excellent sport coat, have one just like it in my closet, waiting for the style to return. It is time. And the basic Slate truck is too expensive at 30K, even 25K is tough to justify. If it were a hybrid 25k would be excellent.

James McHenry
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James McHenry
1 month ago

I could see these being used in municipal fleets as a street-legal replacement for John Deere Gators. Granted, to get into that market, they will need attachments like plows and snow brooms.

Last edited 1 month ago by James McHenry
Luxobarge
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Luxobarge
1 month ago
Reply to  James McHenry

The top end Gators cost up to $30K, so we’re already in the right price bracket. A Slate that can do most of that same stuff but be legal to drive on the highway would be really competitive.

James McHenry
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James McHenry
1 month ago
Reply to  Luxobarge

The only thing that you might give up is some all terrain capability. But in a municipal role such as park and school grounds maintenance, that’s not as much of a consideration. It might just work for that.

RallyMech
RallyMech
1 month ago
Reply to  Luxobarge

I believe this is the primary market segment. Street legal golf cart/SxS. I hadn’t thought about plowing, but EVs should excel at it vs a gasser by nature of low speed torque and weight for traction.

Nick
Nick
1 month ago

it will fail on the hyper-basic premise that what people do and what people say are often 2 different things.

Hoser68
Hoser68
1 month ago
Reply to  Nick

I mentioned it will all depend on if it becomes a FAD. Fads happen and it’s been a while since we had one. This has the potential to become a fad where people find the style cool and want one and since the price isn’t insane, get one. The New Beetle, PT Cruiser, heck the original Mustang, were all fairly inexpensive and sold well to people that might have actually needed a bit more vehicle than they got.

Others are talking about how it should be a hit for commercial operators. Just like how the Maverick was positioned to do well there and then everyone went crazy ordering them for personal use and drove the Maverick up market. Which I think MIGHT happen here.

RataTejas
RataTejas
1 month ago
Reply to  Hoser68

Hand-in-hand with the fad, you need to have availability, but not oversupply. They have to carry a bit of “hard to get”, but not to the point like the Maverick where it was just simply impossible to get one, or you felt personally violated after the transaction.

Bdot
Bdot
1 month ago

I would love to have this as a commuter vehicle as my commute is 15 miles each way I would like a vehicle that fit more than 10 bags of mulch in my trunk or more than 4 yard bags of sticks and leaves. I do not need a full size truck that gets absymal fuel economy and I do not want to then complain about parking downtown just to do occasional truck things. This would absolutely fit the bill.

Hotdoughnutsnow
Hotdoughnutsnow
1 month ago

It’s been over 20 years since the OG Scion xB hit the States. They marketed to the fast & furious teens and 20-somethings as a way to express themselves, but it was widely adopted by a much older crowd because it was so practical and minimalist. I hope the Slate has similar success, and influence. I hope to see other similar options from other manufacturers, with hybrids or four-bangers.

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1 month ago

Is the business plan just combining a whole bunch of stuff that has been shown to either be unpopular or unprofitable and hope there is enough demand for it? Regular cab pickups still exist but do not sell super well. Base models with less features exist but typically do not sell as well as mid tier options, heck even basic work trucks still kinda exist, they now have radios and power windows because most people wanted them and for the small volume that didn’t it was probably more expensive to not have them. Many manufacturers are moving away from or scaling back EV plans. There isn’t any option for awd. The customization aspect is kinda cool, but that is highly dependent on how much the add ones cost and how much support they get, I’d love to be wrong but I have my doubts there will be enough volume to sustain a rich aftermarket.

Jay Mcleod
Jay Mcleod
1 month ago

I’m very optimistic about the Slate truck!

People love love love tiny two-door pickups with electric motors, a whole kit-car ethos with online dealer support.

The world is craving this!

I think it will be the sleeper hit of the decade with sales measured in the dozens!

At least two, and possibly three people on this site will buy them.

My home state of Calif will buy most as it fits the vibe here. I predict sales of no less than 40 and possibly as high as 72!

Gonna be a big big success!

I can hear Slate already, taking roll of the potential owners:

“Bueller…Bueller…Bueller…”

Now, in all seriousness, I like it and really would consider one. But I’m a former auto and tractor mechanic, have lots of garage space, own multiple cars and trucks, love tiny cars and tinker with my cars non stop. Plus I think the micro pickups of the 70s and 80s were fab as I owned half of dozen of them.

But every single normie I know wouldn’t give you two dollars for a Slate.

This dog won’t hunt.

Beto O'Kitty
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Beto O'Kitty
1 month ago
Reply to  Jay Mcleod

You and David are bumming me out.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 month ago

I’m ok with basic, I’m ok with compromise.

But from a company that has been notorious for using users data against them (ever wonder why something on Amazon is a certain color? because data shows one over another has an effect), from a company that has not had workers rights in the best interest, and on a new business venture – I’ll let someone else guinneapig that.

Jay Mcleod
Jay Mcleod
1 month ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

No one cares who makes their consumer products. Sadly.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 month ago
Reply to  Jay Mcleod

And yet, Tesla sales took a serious hit in response to Elon’s political nonsense outside of America. So there’re still people who’ll stick with their convictions.

Jim Zavist
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Jim Zavist
1 month ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

Elon had to work really hard to get hated as much as he’s hated. Most other consumer companies work hard to remain anonymous and non-politcal (at least to the public). The hard reality is that we’ve become conditioned to seeing most generic consumer products coming from overseas from companies we’ve never heard of. Slate will succeed only if it hits its price targets and delivers an acceptable-quality-level products within its promised timeline. Right now, it’s vaporware and any sort of recession will probably kill it.

Jay Mcleod
Jay Mcleod
1 month ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

Not applicable. Elon was part of a niche group where ideological purity is critical.

Normies want cheap, quick and cool.

Space
Space
1 month ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

From what I hear Amazon has nothing on BYD’s nefariousness and they are regularly talked about with praise.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 month ago
Reply to  Space

Are we playing a game of “whataboutisms” now for nefarious data use?

Let’s just skip from Google and Tesla, and jump straight to the NSA?

Space
Space
1 month ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

The illuminati.

EXL500
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EXL500
1 month ago

Where do they put the mandated backup camera?

Needles Balloon
Needles Balloon
1 month ago
Reply to  EXL500

They put it on the digital gauge cluster screen IIRC

Jdoubledub
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Jdoubledub
1 month ago

You are correct.

EXL500
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EXL500
1 month ago
Reply to  EXL500

Thanks for the replies.

Buddybears
Buddybears
1 month ago

Our very own David Tracy argued, perhaps rightly, that the Slate truck would be a far more appropriate “people’s car” if it just had a simple, four-cylinder gas engine rather than an EV powertrain. He also argued that such a bare-bones vehicle, which doesn’t come standard with stuff like a stereo or exterior paint, simply isn’t competitive against entry-level crossovers or its most direct competitor, the Ford Maverick.

HARD disagree. If I wanted to buy a Ford Maverick I’d buy a Ford Maverick. But I didn’t because:
A: Its a Ford so its going to be a POS
B: Its not all that small. Its a lot larger than my 1996 Tacoma 4-banger
C: It is nothing like the Slate, not the same kind of vehicle and made for an entirely different buyer.

The Slate isn’t a direct competitor to anything because there isn’t anything else in its size available. Its also not a competitor because this truck’s ENTIRE appeal is that it doesn’t have all of that stupid bullshit we really don’t need. I don’t need power seats, power mirrors, a heated steering wheel, a whole dash full of screens and so on. Nope. I want the spiritual successor to trucks like the one I own, which has a bench seat, crank windows, manual mirrors and not much else. Ding Ding Ding! That’s what we want. None of the stupid crap that Maverick comes standard with.

At the end of the day its the simple, no bones, more honest to god, down to earth, no bullshit kind of vehicle the Slate seems to be and something we have sorely missed.

Rippstik
Rippstik
1 month ago
Reply to  Buddybears

Not sure I agree…

A: The Hybrid Maverick has a NA 2.5 tried and true Duratec backed up by the Toyota designed/inspired planetary CVT. It should be pretty reliable long-term.
B: It’s smaller than my 2001 Crew Cab Tacoma… barely. But, outside of the Miata, cars and trucks have generally jumped a size from where they were at 20 years ago.
C: Similar buyers. Mavericks are all over fleets these days. The beauty of the Maverick is that it is cheap and cheerful in it’s design and price.

Also, sure the Maverick doesn’t have a bench seat and roll up windows, but who wants roll up windows with a crew cab? Maverick has all that someone would want without a ton of bells and whistles. 10/10 recommend.

Jay Mcleod
Jay Mcleod
1 month ago
Reply to  Buddybears

Yup, you and dozens of other people are the target market for Slate!

*Jason*
*Jason*
1 month ago
Reply to  Buddybears

The question is are you willing to pay more to get less?

At $20K the Slate made sense. I can’t see it selling for $30K

Buddybears
Buddybears
1 month ago
Reply to  *Jason*

It’ll sell like mad. Because again- nothing like it on the market.

*Jason*
*Jason*
1 month ago
Reply to  Buddybears
  1. You didn’t answer the question – “Are you willing to pay more for a bare-bones strip vehicle vs a more typically equipped one?”
  2. As to sales, let’s check back in a year or two. Slate said they are planning to sell 150,000 vehicles in 2027.
Buddybears
Buddybears
1 month ago
Reply to  *Jason*

1:Yes. Because again- show me anything like this.
2: They are going to make a killing on these. Because of the same thing

Toecutter
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Toecutter
1 month ago
Reply to  Buddybears

I hate driving trucks. But the Slate EV is the only new passenger vehicle coming onto the US market that even remotely piques my interest enough to consider purchasing one. That says something.

What I really want is the Slate equivalent to an EV sports car. Follow Colin Chapman’s/Lotus’ formula of simplify and add lightness, then do the same for aero drag by making it very slippery. It should be cheap with standardized parts, and no extraneous bullshit. You shouldn’t need more than 200 horsepower in a 2,000 lb electric vehicle to mess with some very serious 500+ horsepower ICE cars, including while at high speeds when approaching 200 mph. A 30-40 kWh battery is all you need for good range(> 200 miles @ 70 mph) in normal A to B driving if you keep the drag and mass down. Such a small battery in turn allows you to keep the mass down in a diminutive sub-Miata sized package. By keeping it simple and repairable, you also keep it cheap to run and operate on a daily basis for decades.

Luxobarge
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Luxobarge
1 month ago

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head when it comes to fleet sales. Fleets can make the best use of a short-ranged EV, custom-branded wraps, minimal amenities, and low lifetime maintenance costs. I can see a big fraction of Slate’s sales going to fleets, while still selling in lower numbers to consumers interested in a niche vehicle.

In particular, I could also see this as a popular rental in places like Maui or Martha’s Vineyard, where trips are short and operating costs for a gas car are high. Resorts could keep a fleet on hand parked at Level 1 chargers and rent them by the day to tourists.

Last edited 1 month ago by Luxobarge
*Jason*
*Jason*
1 month ago
Reply to  Luxobarge

Where I live that fleet role is filled by the Chevy Bolt. NAPA pretty much replaced their entire fleet of old Rangers with Bolts. So has the Chic-fil-a and some other restaurants.

TK-421
TK-421
1 month ago

I just wasted a few minutes on the maker to basically design a heritage Toyota including the wheel decals. Kinda neat. I mean I haven’t driven more than 100 miles in a day in a long time. Daily commute is about 54 miles.

Rich Mason
Rich Mason
1 month ago

If and when this becomes an actual hybrid then maybe would consider it.

BEV is a no go for me though.

Space
Space
1 month ago
Reply to  Rich Mason

Slap a generator in the bed and it’s a hybrid.

Hangover Grenade
Hangover Grenade
1 month ago

Why buy a Slate truck when, for a few thousand bucks more, I can get a whole-ass used F-150 Lightning instead? 

You’re welcome!

https://www.theautopian.com/im-about-to-speak-to-the-designer-of-the-slate-pickup-truck-what-do-you-want-to-know/comment-page-2/#comment-915700

Did you actually ask the guy?

Last edited 1 month ago by Hangover Grenade
3WiperB
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3WiperB
1 month ago

You touch on my big hope for this… that it’s cheap to insure because the body panels are easy to replace, and a wrap should be cheaper than matching paint.

I think the big competition is going to be cars like the Bolt, but also used EV’s. For the price, the Bolt is a really good value. And used Bolts are (prior to the gas prices going up) like $12,000-17,000.

Last edited 1 month ago by 3WiperB
Zipn Zipn
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Zipn Zipn
1 month ago
Reply to  3WiperB

I understand that wraps start to fail after about 5 years. I’d prefer mine without a wrap.

Vetatur Fumare
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Vetatur Fumare
1 month ago

Somehow, more expensive oil will just mean that electricity prices jump just as high.

I still want it with a dependable four-banger in it. Nissan SR20DE or Toyota 3S-FE are my first thoughts.

Buddybears
Buddybears
1 month ago
Reply to  Vetatur Fumare

Why? Do all of the power plants run on petroleum? Nope. A lot of it its from Nuclear- of which the US has more of than anyone else, and of which we get a lot of our power from. All I know is that after having owned a variety of EVs over the last 3 admins, our costs range from being around 50% less than the equivalent in has during “normal” times to 3 and 4 times cheaper then the orange dipshit pulls another stunt.

Ranwhenparked
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Ranwhenparked
1 month ago
Reply to  Buddybears

Nuclear is about 20% of our national supply. However,we import about 95% of our nuclear fuel, about 1/4 of it from Russia, a similar amount from Canada, and smaller amounts from Uzbekistan and Australia, and that mostly comes by diesel fueled ship and gets moved domestically by diesel fueled trains and trucks.

About 43% is from burning natural gas, which is pretty much entirely domestically-produced, plus another 16% from coal, also domestic. Another 6% comes from hydroelectric, which leaves about 15% from all other sources – solar, wind, biomass, etc etc.

Last edited 1 month ago by Ranwhenparked
Defenestrator
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Defenestrator
1 month ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

The fuel is a pretty small percentage of nuclear power generation costs, and the actual volume of fuel is small enough that even a pretty big increase in shipping costs would be a rounding error.

It’ll probably increase PV panel costs some, but there’s some domestic production and the panel costs have become a relatively small percentage of the total so not likely to affect generation costs noticeably.

Wind might see the biggest impact. Those turbine blades are big. Most likely in the form of slowed buildout, but that was going to happen anyways with a regulatory environment swinging from incentivizing to punishing or banning it.

Vetatur Fumare
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Vetatur Fumare
1 month ago
Reply to  Buddybears

I am not suggesting it makes sense, just what the end results are.

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