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Airstream’s Cheapest Camper Van Is Finally Compatible With Families And It’s Still Almost Affordable

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Back in 2022, Airstream came out of left field with a surprising new product. The Rangeline camper van was an Airstream touring coach with doses of aluminum and luxury, but for a price well below $200,000. RV sales may have fallen since the heights of the pandemic, but RVers are still interested in vans. Airstream has a new idea to keep people in showrooms. This is the new Airstream Rangeline 21PL, and it seems to have an even better interior than the original for a price that’s still almost affordable.

There is a growing demand for affordable RVs in America. Manufacturers have told me this, and countless RV owners that I’ve talked to have said the same thing. An increasing number of folks just don’t want to spend house money on a summer vehicle. A camper van is supposed to be one of the more accessible RVs on the market. They can fit in parking spaces, don’t require their drivers to know how to command a bus, and can even be parked at home sometimes. You can build your own camper van for around $10,000 or maybe even less if you’re crafty enough.

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If you’re not the kind of person who can build their own rig, you’re left with what the factories build, and prices get properly nutty. There are lots of vans in the market that cost over $200,000, and even some that cost well above $400,000. Airstream was one of these brands, with units in its Touring Coach lineup that demanded over $200,000. The Rangeline changed that with an almost affordable price of $131,882, or $146,276 for a pop-top version, before the mandatory $2,500 destination fee, another freight fee of $200, and taxes.

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That was an okay-ish price for a luxury camper van from one of the most famous RV brands in America. For 2026, Airstream has a fresh version of the Rangeline with neat improvements. This new one is more family-friendly, and because of some trickery, it doesn’t even require a pop-top anymore.

Airstream’s More Affordable Camper Van Glows Up

The new Rangeline starts with the same bones as the old one. Like most of the more affordable factory-built camper vans, Airstream based the Rangeline on a Ram ProMaster 3500, a 21-foot-long work van. Power comes from a 3.6-liter Pentastar V6 making 276 horsepower that drives the front wheels through a nine-speed automatic. The new van even carries the old Rangeline’s tow rating of 3,500 pounds with a hitch weight limit of 350 pounds.

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The new Rangeline, like all of Airstream’s modern Touring Coaches, utilizes an automotive body. Instead, aluminum touches are left to the interior trim.

It’s inside where the new Rangeline departs most from the old. The old Rangeline was best used as a couple’s camper. The main two-piece bed in the rear was appropriate for two adults. If you had to bring a kid with you, springing for the more expensive Rangeline pop-top was your best option. Of course, that came with its own limitations, like the fact that the kid sleeping up there didn’t have solid walls.

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The new Rangeline, called the Premier Loft, has an entirely new interior. Up front is a set of swivel seats for the driver and passenger. That’s nothing new. But it gets weird immediately after.

In a typical camper van, there’s a dinette and a bench behind the front seats. This allows the front of the van to be used for dining, sleeping, and lounging. In the Premier Loft, the bathroom and the kitchen are directly behind the front seats. This results in a sort of weird configuration where the driver and passenger get to stare at the person cooking lunch.

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Anyway, the bathroom is your standard fare wet bath, featuring a running shower, a toilet, and a sink. The shower and the van’s sinks drain into a 19-gallon tank, while the toilet has a 12-gallon tank. It’s a real plumbed toilet, too, not a cassette unit. All plumbing apparatuses get their water from a 28-gallon tank.

Across from the bathroom is the kitchen, which sports a portable induction cooktop, a sink, a 122-liter compressor fridge, and a microwave. The kitchen is adorned with pressed laminates in neutral hues with a splash of wood tones and a little bit of aluminum here and there for style. I toured the original Rangeline in 2022 and thought that its quality was better than average, but a bit below what you’d expect from an Airstream. While I have not seen this one, I’d expect similar.

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The Room Of A Pop-Top Without A Pop-Top

The real trickery happens behind the bathroom and kitchen.

Here is where you’ll find two more seats that sit on a four-way L-track system. These seats can be moved forward to be closer to the front or slid all the way back to join a bench and form a lounge. Or, you can remove them entirely and use the space that they occupy as gear storage.

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Also in the rear are two beds. The rear seats join the rear bench to create a sleeping space. Then, there’s another bed that electrically lowers from the ceiling. Having two beds stacked on top of each other means that Airstream was able to eliminate the pop-top entirely while giving the rear end roughly three configurations. You can have two beds for the whole family, just one bed and gear storage, or put the beds away entirely and have a lounge. With the seats removed, you can fit bicycles, kayaks, skis, and other outdoor fun materials in the rear. The loft bed is 74″ by 57″ while the lower bed is 74″ by 53.”

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Airstream is pitching this new flavor of the Rangeline as the ultimate family hauler. From Airstream:

“We took everything owners loved about our original Rangeline and added features to offer greater standard sleeping capacity, more storage solutions, and freedom for owners to customize their travel,” said Airstream President and CEO Bob Wheeler. “Rangeline 21PL adapts to everyday life on the road, whether that’s hauling gear, hosting family, or having a more comfortable place to rest, without limiting quality design and comfort.”

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The rear seats even support child seats. One of the Autopian dads, Matt Hardigree, says this rendition of the Rangeline would be even better for hauling his kid than the original. At least to my eyes, the rear bed system looks like a clever way to attain the same sleeping capacity as a pop-top camper without having a pop-top.

If I have any concern, it’s that the layout seems like it’ll be somewhat goofy for bigger people. There’s a ladder to get up to the upper bed, and with that in place, it looks like getting out of the lower bed to reach the bathroom might require a little contorting. Ideally, you’d do the opposite of the press images and have the kids on the lower bed. I suppose a workaround would be to move the ladder out of the way whenever the rear bed occupants need to get out, but that’s also a bit clunky in itself.

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If you’re looking for Airstream’s iconic shiny aluminum, that’s largely limited to the ceiling, just like it is in the original Rangeline.

The new Rangeline gets juice from a 3.5 kWh lithium battery, a 3,000-W inverter, and 200 watts of solar. There’s also a 2.8 kW gasoline generator onboard. Airstream says it went with a gas generator because it wants to make the Rangeline family as easy to use for beginners as possible. By having a single fuel, families don’t have to worry about diesel, propane, and gasoline at the same time.

Still ‘Almost Affordable’

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Airstream says that you get all of this for $173,400, or about a $12,000 premium over the current price of the original Rangeline. That old coach remains for sale under the name of Rangeline 21PS (Premium Suite), and sales of both coaches have already kicked off.

At the very least, I am happy to see Airstream grow the Rangeline family rather than pump out yet another van that costs north of $200,000. Obviously, this is not actually cheap, but it is a move in the right direction, I think. I also like how Airstream found a neat alternative to a pop-top while updating the interior, while it was at it. Not everything about the new Rangeline makes sense, but I think it is an improvement.

The Rangeline has always existed in a sort of weird space. While it’s not the cheapest new camper van on the market, it is the cheapest self-propelled Airstream RV. In my experience, the Rangeline also retains some of Airstream’s luxury touches, which you cannot always say about a factory-built camper van that costs less than $200,000. This is why Matt and I have called the Rangeline “almost affordable.” It’s still a six-figure camper and thus very expensive. But if you’re looking for a sort of luxurious camper van without spending the kind of money that you would on a starter home in California, this seems to do the trick.

All photos and top graphic images: Airstream

 

 

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Vanillasludge
Vanillasludge
2 days ago

173k is a lot of hookers and blow in some nice hotels around the world. Pass.

Christocyclist
Christocyclist
2 days ago
Reply to  Vanillasludge

Yu can make that go even further if you stay in crappy hotels!

Bram Oude Elberink
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Bram Oude Elberink
2 days ago

I think the layout 100% sucks.
When traveling, the two people who sit in the back have no connection with the two people in the front; both in the big distance between rear and front seats as well as the kitchen and toilet that are placed in between. They also can’t see anything out of a window, and if you are so far in the back with poor visibility… good luck with your child that gets nauseous easily. So (1) you can’t give them anything over your shoulder, (2) if you point at a nice outside view they can’t see it and (3) when they get nauseous you are too late to help them.
I am not done, sorry. When you are at the campsite and you want to eat with four, you sit in an akward L-shape and before you can do so, you have to re-arrange bedding to be able to sit inside.
This is not a small van like a VW transporter. So it is possible to have a logical layout of seating for 4 in the front during travel AND camping without having to change the beds. Over here in Europe they are sold by the millions (ok, maybe not millions, but a lot) as Fiats, Peugeots and Citroëns. Most of them for 2 boomers, but if you want, you have options for a stacked bed or for the pop-top.
Personally, I would prefer a pop-top with soft walls, in my opinion it helps with a better air quality inside the camper.

John McMillin
John McMillin
2 days ago

This is great, I guess, if you absolutely have to have home and transport in one package. But for this price you could buy a top-line fiberglass trailer and almost any Porsche SUV to tow it. I know what I would do…

Bassracerx
Bassracerx
2 days ago

putting the toilet directly behind the drivers seat is a choice … but i guess that’s extra motivation to keep it spotless.

Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
3 days ago

Am I the only one who periodically looks at RVs and tries to filter out the Promaster based ones?

I’m not crazy about a Mercedes Sprinter either, but it seems like Fords and Chevys are relatively rare in comparison. I’d much rather take my chances with an Ecoboost or 5.3 V8. Plus chances are I can find a Ford or Chevy mechanic if I ever was out in the middle of nowhere.

Mighty Bagel
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Mighty Bagel
2 days ago
Reply to  Vic Vinegar

I honestly filter out all the newer Promaster/Sprinter/Transit based ones and keep looking at the regular Class C based on the Econolines. There seem to be too many issues with the newer breed of vans from mechanical issues to repairability problems and parts availability. The Econoline is bigger and cruder/older and yeah the mileage sucks and so does the handling, but while it has it’s own issues, they are well known and pretty much any mechanic can work on them. You can also rebuild one just from the stock in an Autozone back room.

Eslader
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Eslader
2 days ago
Reply to  Mighty Bagel

Class C’s have their own problems. Many of them end up overloaded if you have two adults in them. It’s kind of amazing they’re legal.

Phil
Phil
3 days ago

“The Rangeline changed that with an almost affordable price of $131,882”. And the new one is $173,000.

You find a couple chests of old pirate gold buried in your local park that we don’t know about, Mercedes?

Last edited 3 days ago by Phil
Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
3 days ago

$175k is a hell of a lot of money for double-wide bunk beds.

3WiperB
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3WiperB
3 days ago

The original was so tight inside. This layout seems so much better. I still worry about the quality and the price is still high. I bought a truck and a used 23′ Airstream combined for so much less than this and have so much more space. And I can use the truck as my everyday vehicle. And when I’m camping, I can leave my trailer behind and set up at the campground, and take my truck to shopping or local attractions.

John McMillin
John McMillin
2 days ago
Reply to  3WiperB

This last point is so important. If I pull into a park campsite in afternoon, I drop the trailer and go out exploring. An RV tends to pin you down in one place until you leave.

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
3 days ago

A few interesting ideas.
1. Why doesn’t IKEA get into the game? I’m sure they could get a 3 bedroom house of stuff in this space
2. Ladder to top bunk. After the kiddies get up there attach it to the bed as a safety rail.
3. Seems the fresh water tanks have about 3 more gallons capacity than the grey tank. Plan your poops reduce your fiber. Maybe an all cheese diet on vacation.
4. Better ecological use of water. Use dish water and shower water to a seperate tank and use it to flush the commode or even shower to laundry to toilet and dishes?
5. Anyone ever think to use hammocks to increase sleeping area?

Last edited 3 days ago by 1978fiatspyderfan
LMCorvairFan
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LMCorvairFan
3 days ago

Seems nice. They could have handled the guides to the upper bunk is a less industrial fashion. Maybe a snap in aluminum or plastic cover.

Bizness Comma Nunya
Bizness Comma Nunya
3 days ago

Based on a Promaster? Not sure which will splode first, the pentastar or the 9HP.

If you’re going to spend premium money (Airstream $) it shouldn’t be on Promaster.

3WiperB
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3WiperB
3 days ago

The Mercedes vans that the Airstream Atlas is based on sound like they might actually have more problems than the Promaster though.

Bizness Comma Nunya
Bizness Comma Nunya
2 days ago
Reply to  3WiperB

…yikes

Scott Ross
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Scott Ross
3 days ago

does the transmission still eat itself?

Space
Space
2 days ago
Reply to  Scott Ross

Yes. But good news, the engine may explode before that even happens!

4jim
4jim
3 days ago

I would rather have the VW California ($86K converted from pounds on the vw-uk website) It sleeps the same number of people and can probably fit in a parking space.

Spopepro
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Spopepro
3 days ago
Reply to  4jim

For the life of me I can’t understand why it never seems to be an option to bring over the T7/transit custom PHEV vans. They’d be amazing.

4jim
4jim
3 days ago
Reply to  Spopepro

I have read, in the past that VW did not think people would spend the money on the California camper van. I think the last 6+ years has shown that was not true at all. They would sell fast!

Ferdinand
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Ferdinand
3 days ago

How am I supposed to boink my wife when the kids are right above me? At least a tent doesn’t shake like crazy…

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
3 days ago
Reply to  Ferdinand

An excellent argument for an open air sleep porch on the roof thru a hatch with a tent.

Ford_Timelord
Ford_Timelord
2 days ago
Reply to  Ferdinand

In the words of a former BMW salesman. “Let the boy watch”

John McMillin
John McMillin
2 days ago
Reply to  Ferdinand

We carried the “Potty Tent,” a cheap, roomy dome with a portable chemical toilet and a cot.

Eggsalad
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Eggsalad
3 days ago

FWIW, it seems not many RV sell anywhere close to the phony list price shown by manufacturers. Most seem to sell at 20-30% off.

Bags
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Bags
3 days ago
Reply to  Eggsalad

Keeping in mind that the cheaper Promaster based Class Bs were starting around $100k a few years back and mid/upper 100s got you into a Sprinter based van, the price on these “lower end” models has ballooned pretty quickly. And yes, checking them out at the RV shows you’ll see big discounts bringing these closer to 2021 prices.

V10omous
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V10omous
3 days ago

Paying $175,000 for a camper van is one thing, but $175,000 for a Ram Promaster is something else entirely.

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
3 days ago
Reply to  V10omous

Anyone else thinking vacation homes? In PA many people have camps. A quarter acre in the woods basic accommodations near the water costs about $50k. You could buy 3 and have $30k to improve the cabin. Note a broken down RV or School bus is a cheap cabin to live in.

Ray Finkle
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Ray Finkle
2 days ago

You can buy 200+ acres in Michigan’s UP for far less than this thing and have plenty left over for a nice camper or cabin to put on it.

Or 2 1/2 years worth of hotel rooms.

Mighty Bagel
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Mighty Bagel
2 days ago
Reply to  V10omous

Hey, look on the bright side, at least the Promaster is really difficult to work on as well.

Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
3 days ago

Lot of comments on affordability here. Which is fair, lol, this thing is obviously fucking expensive.

But this is also a gigantic van with what amounts to an apartment inside it. For what I consider to be the most American of luxuries, traveling around a huge country and lugging around a living space with you as you do it. When you think about it, it’s downright bizarre and insanely opulent behavior. Especially when it’s done in something as fanciful as this. I’m sure it isn’t perfect, but it’s a whole different experience than towing around a plywood box.

I guess my point being, I wouldn’t expect anything like this to be affordable. I would assume the use of affordable here is more targeted as “attainable for upper middle class people if this is the sort of thing they’re going to splurge on”. God knows that doesn’t describe me, lol.

Spopepro
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Spopepro
3 days ago

Exactly. Like my grandpa always told me, things are worth what people are willing to pay for them and there’s no shortage of folks lining up to buy 200k vans built to lesser specs. Do I think it’s worth it? Hell no… I have a used Ranger with a go fast camper shell, an anker battery and an electric cooler.

But saying all that—I think there is a significant underestimation/misunderstanding among this crowd how much more often you’re able to get outdoors if you have even a somewhat purpose built camper. Before we had the truck camper we would need to have a full day to get somewhere. Setting up a tent in the dark sucks, and everything takes more time. This past weekend my wife got home from work at 6pm, we were on the road at 7, parked at 10 in the mountains, and enjoying birthday cheesecake and desert wine and in bed before 11. Up at 7 to go hike and climb some 3rd class casual peaks. Cold cider and cut watermelon once we got back. It is actually better than both a tent or a hotel once you have it dialed.

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
3 days ago
Reply to  Spopepro

Once it is dark out what is the difference between a great wilderness camping area and a Walmart parking spot?

Spopepro
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Spopepro
2 days ago

Well, aside from getting to see stars, the views the next morning, breakfast in the woods, already being at the trailhead, and usually complete solitude the whole time… not being in a Walmart parking lot.

More seriously, I think the nice thing about being a vacationer rather than a vanlifer or digital nomad or whatever term they want these days is never having to park in the front country. It’s essentially a frequent necessity if you’re full time, and is a major detractor for me personally.

Phil
Phil
2 days ago

That’s like asking “once you’ve locked your front door behind you, what’s the difference if your house is located in a really shitty neighborhood vs a nice one?”

3WiperB
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3WiperB
3 days ago
Reply to  Spopepro

Yeah, I can get set up at a campground in under 3 minutes now, and if, I’m just staying the night it just takes plugging it in and maybe putting the stabilizers down, but I won’t even unhitch the truck. I go on vacation a lot more now that I have a camper. Like 30-35 nights a year. I could never spend that many nights in a tent or hotel.

Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
2 days ago
Reply to  Spopepro

Yeah I understand the arguments that hotels for life are cheaper than a camper van/camper but it depends on how you’re using it.

This would make sense for friends of ours, they’re DINKS, they do alright, and they spend basically all of their time biking, hiking, and more biking. The camper van makes sense for a couple whose primary goal is to go out into the boonies every weekend they have.

Eslader
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Eslader
2 days ago

I always found the hotel argument to be stupid.

It’s also cheaper to stay home, but people don’t want to do that either.

If you really like camping you’re not going to be concerned about how many hotel stays you can get for the price of your rig.

Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
2 days ago
Reply to  Eslader

Yeah these are obviously wildly different experiences, even with the sort of comfort a camper provides.

Bags
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Bags
3 days ago

Camper vans are absolutely great for weekend use, but the idea is “built to the standards of a Class A in a smaller package”. They are intended to take the abuse of full time living and cover lots of miles. After my past exerience with a Promaster, there’s some questions about life expectation on this (but I guess the repair expenses relative to a 6-figure price tag don’t hit as hard as on my $14k used van).

Also at odds with the general use case of a Class B is the need to sleep 4, so it’s fair to to criticize the cost as a weekend family camper. Realistically these will probably sell to grandparents who dream of bringing kids along on adventures and probably a few families with cash to burn.

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
3 days ago
Reply to  Bags

Per the many Mercedes RV articles how many camping days do you get from any of these before they fall apart?

Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
2 days ago
Reply to  Bags

Yeah I can’t imagine too many families of 4 are going to be buying this. That second bed is occasional use at best.

God forbid that family stop at a Mexican restaurant one evening for dinner.

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
3 days ago

More like a storage unit with a little extra space. Trust me folks this is a scam if you rent more than 6 months. Throw away the garbage donate the useful stuff you have been holding on to, give family the sentimental crap and rent the smallest space you can

Bassracerx
Bassracerx
2 days ago

i’m 36 and never once taken a single vacation in my adult life. Having a whole RV just seems like the definition of Hubris to me. then they start costing more than my actual house and you know what? I’m not even mad. I think you should charge the rich bastards even MORE money! Charge $380,000 for this RV they wouldn’t even give it a second thought they would just have their assistant do the paper work and buy it anyway.

John McMillin
John McMillin
2 days ago
Reply to  Bassracerx

That’s just sad.

Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
2 days ago
Reply to  Bassracerx

I’m not much older, but while I’ve been lucky enough to at least go on a few vacations (vacation defined as a trip somewhere for more than 3 days, NOT staying at a relatives house, lol) the total costs of all my vacations is probably… 10% of this camper van? So yeah, I can understand the frustration at the idea of people throwing 150k+ on a vehicle to boop around in.

Elhigh
Elhigh
3 days ago

The prices start at $130K?

You and I have very different ideas of what affordable means.

Really No Regrets
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Really No Regrets
3 days ago

Mercedes,
Do you have a guesstimate on the profit percentage on a/this $173k RV?
The depreciation percentage for the owner after 1, 2, 3 and 5 years?

These are priced beyond me, and I’m simply curious.

Thanks

Mighty Bagel
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Mighty Bagel
3 days ago

Apparently you are using some alternate definition of Affordable that I’m not familiar with.

BB 2 wheels > 4
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BB 2 wheels > 4
3 days ago

It can’t tow my ICON C10?! No deal!

LMCorvairFan
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LMCorvairFan
3 days ago

ICON tows you!

Bearddevil
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Bearddevil
3 days ago

It’s still more than I paid for my 3 bedroom house in 2020.

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
3 days ago
Reply to  Bearddevil

It’s more than 3 times more than I paid for my creek front 3 bedroom detached garage with a shop

Phil
Phil
2 days ago

In 1955?

Lizardman in a human suit
Lizardman in a human suit
2 days ago
Reply to  Bearddevil

Same here, and mine came with an acre of land.

Ricardo M
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Ricardo M
3 days ago

$200k is a bit rich for occasional camping use, so I imagine it’s targeted at the VanLife crunchy types, and I thought we collectively agreed that van life with kids is fucked up after watching how all the influencers’ kids turned out. Children need personal space just like everyone else, sharing a bunk bed with parents is a nice recipe for a therapist’s job security.

BB 2 wheels > 4
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BB 2 wheels > 4
3 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo M

So its the bunk beds fault and not the influencer parents?

Ricardo M
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Ricardo M
3 days ago

Bit of both, really. Influencer parents definitely make any situation worse, but neither life on the road nor the lack of a private room are healthy for a child’s mind.

I got the top-down, retrospective look on the whole discourse after the fact since I don’t follow any influencers, but there’s plenty of research out there about the importance of privacy in mental development.

4jim
4jim
3 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo M

Or the well off dog show types. Human upper bunk show/competition dogs on the lower bunk and most of those types have money.

Ricardo M
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Ricardo M
3 days ago
Reply to  4jim

I can see that, it’s a little separate from the advertising brief, but still a solid use case for the product. And you’re right, 200k isn’t that much to some people.

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
3 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo M

Okay that is who we should be taxing

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
3 days ago
Reply to  4jim

I believe that is Hooman.

John McMillin
John McMillin
2 days ago
Reply to  4jim

AKC show lots are like high-end RV meets.

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
3 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo M

They make celebrities kids seem normal. Well except for that Reiner kid. Lol

Robert M
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Robert M
3 days ago

Nearly all RV’s built these days, including Airstream, are garbage. Before you buy an RV built after 2020 I highly encourage you to watch Liz Amazing on YouTube. She talks to RV buyers and shows some of most insane stories of people getting screwed over badly. You have no recourse and no lemon laws for RV’s. Watching her channel has confirmed that I never want an RV.

Robert M
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Robert M
3 days ago

Definitely. On her channel the Airstream is featured the least among problem RV’s. The biggest issue is the RV industry not fixing the problems and giving owners the run around. Many people on there paid $200k for an RV only to have it sit on a dealership lot for 6 months waiting to be fixed properly.

LMCorvairFan
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LMCorvairFan
3 days ago
Reply to  Robert M

And there’s the profit

UnseenCat
UnseenCat
3 days ago
Reply to  Robert M

Two things — Never buy a brand-new RV; the depreciation is insane.

Second, not only has quality been dubious since 2020 for various reasons, there’s a school of thought that you really need to go back to prior to the 2008 economic crash to find a proper, quality-built RV (or at least one worth putting some money and effort into repairing/updating. Post-2008, was when a lot of RV manufacturer bankruptcies and consolidations began — after that a lot of the trusted brands became names only, being built to inferior standards. Others hung on but had issues with finding new suppliers for parts, issues with inferior parts from the remaining suppliers, and dealing with their own cost-cutting needs.

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
3 days ago
Reply to  Robert M

I’d only use a commercial vehicle, I am thinking a British double Decker and personally supervise the customer build with off the shelf proven products. Can you imagine a second story open deck looking down at the masses while gorging yourself on shower spaghetti and wheelbarrow shrimp? That is when you know you have arrived.

3WiperB
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3WiperB
3 days ago
Reply to  Robert M

Airstreams are far from perfect, but they do seem to stand behind their product and have and independant dealer network. But new ones can still have a lot of problems. I have an 07 and it’s been pretty trouble free for my 5 years of ownership, but maybe others just worked the kinks out for me before my ownership. The nice thing is the value holds pretty steady once they are 15 plus years old and they are actually “affordable”.

Long Beard
Long Beard
3 days ago

If that’s “almost affordable” The Autopian is paying you guys well!

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
3 days ago
Reply to  Long Beard

Let’s talk about a 120month payment plan to get those payments down to a monthly number that works for you

Bags
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Bags
3 days ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

I’m not saying your wrong about the general camper/motorhome market. But I think the average campervan buyer is a retiree that doesn’t want to deal with a Class A for full-time living, or someone with cash to burn. These probably get financed less than the average $30k stick built trailer or $60k motorhome.

Ferdinand
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Ferdinand
3 days ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

Can’t you get 15 or even 20 year payment terms on RVs?

*Jason*
*Jason*
2 days ago
Reply to  Ferdinand

Yes, RVs can have loans up to 20 years.

Ferdinand
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Ferdinand
2 days ago
Reply to  *Jason*

Sounds like a great financial decision.

*Jason*
*Jason*
2 days ago
Reply to  Ferdinand

Marginally better than a 20 year loan on a boat – which is also an real thing.

At least RVs don’t sink if you delay maintenance.

Ferdinand
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Ferdinand
2 days ago
Reply to  *Jason*

What’s the depreciation on a ~$300k boat vs a ~$300k RV?

*Jason*
*Jason*
2 days ago
Reply to  Ferdinand

About the same. Both are massive.

The thing about boats is that you have to pay someone every month to park or store it. That is why it is common to find larger boats selling for less than a smaller one that can be put on a trailer and parked at home. Not uncommon around here to see 30 and 40 foot sailboats for $5 to $10K. The owner is just trying to unload it to get out of the $600 to $1,000 a month slip fee at the marina.

Ferdinand
Member
Ferdinand
2 days ago
Reply to  *Jason*

So you’re saying to buy some waterfront property first?

*Jason*
*Jason*
2 days ago
Reply to  Ferdinand

Sure but people that can afford waterfront property aren’t taking out 20 year loans on a $300K boat.

Like cars it is the used buyers that get in trouble. Just like a $100K plus Mercedes that has depreciated to the same price as a Civic is rarely a deal for the person that has to finance that Civic.

Buying a $300K boat for $30K is not generally a deal and the storage and upkeep will bankrupt the average guy.

My 0.02 Cents
My 0.02 Cents
3 days ago
Reply to  Long Beard

“almost” is key here, it’s doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence.

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
3 days ago
Reply to  Long Beard

I think it is all the free cars.

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