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Why I’m Getting Rid Of My Supposedly Reliable Toyota After 70,000 Miles Of Driving It

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There is a belief out there that if you just need a car to get you around reliably, get a Toyota, any Toyota, it doesn’t really matter which one. I’ve issued this advice myself. So, when my wife told me that she was buying what could be called the Toyota version of my favorite car, I immediately championed the idea. Unfortunately, our 2012 Scion iQ stopped being fun the moment the novelty wore off. Then came the problems. And now, after 70,000 miles, it’s time to say goodbye, and we won’t be crying.

Back in late 2023, my wife found herself in an uncomfortable position. The 2001 BMW 525i wagon that we bought from our secret designer, the Bishop, was pretty tired after driving 40,000 miles in a single year. Meanwhile, her 2010 Toyota Prius was totaled by a friend. Sheryl needed a reliable car and decided to get something fun.

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At the time, Sheryl thought she had some of her most driving fun behind the wheel of one of my Smarts. But I didn’t think this was a good idea because Smarts can be finicky and maintenance-intensive. Sheryl needed a car that just worked every time she turned the key.

What if she could get the Smart experience, but without the Mercedes-Benz maintenance quirks? That’s where the Scion iQ came in. The entire point of this car was to do everything that a Smart could, but do it better and with Toyota reliability. On paper, a used Scion iQ was perfect. It was easy to park, it got over 35 mpg, it had a decent trunk when the rear seats were folded down, it had a great dealership network, and it was even cheap to insure. The 2012 iQ we purchased was also affordable at $7,500 and had plenty of life left with only 67,000 miles on its odometer. What could go wrong?

It Was Love At First Drive

At first, the Scion iQ achieved its mission and more. Everyone thought it was cute. Sheryl easily scored well over 30 mpg, and she got her Smart Fortwo fix without the Smart Fortwo quirks. The BMW was able to be parked and worked on at Sheryl’s pace while she had a reliable car to drive to court in. It wasn’t even a month after she got the car when I penned a post that proudly proclaimed: Daily-Driving The Tiny Toyota America Ignored: Why The Scion iQ Is Criminally Underrated“.

I meant what I said in that article. I marveled at how Toyota’s engineers seemingly strategically identified everything that most people hate about Smarts and then built a car that had none of those issues.

The number one complaint about first- and second-generation Smart Fortwos is that they have a slow and clunky automated-manual transmission. Toyota got around that by giving the iQ a CVT. People disliked how early Smarts felt like they got into a crash every time they hit a pothole. Toyota gave the iQ a smoother suspension. Those same people also complained about how Smarts had only two seats and slow acceleration. Others worried – incorrectly – that a Smart couldn’t survive an accident with anything bigger than a bicycle.

Toyota’s engineers countered by making the iQ the world’s smallest four-seat car. It also had a larger, faster four-cylinder engine and so many airbags that Toyota invented the world’s first rear window airbag. Just for good measure, Toyota’s engineers also made sure that the iQ could turn vastly tighter than any Smart of the day. The iQ even drinks regular gasoline while a Smart demands premium.

We fell so hard in love with the car that, only a few months after getting it, we drove the iQ across America, following the remnants of Route 66. Then, we drove it back home, going directly through the Rockies. The car handled it just fine, which was impressive to me because the iQ is a city car, and climbing mountain passes is about as far from city driving as you can get.

The iQ’s Novelty Wore Away Quickly

Unfortunately, cracks started appearing before too long. In November 2024, I wrote an update about the car after it surpassed 33,000 miles in our hands. In that piece, I noted:

This trip did reveal a few more of the car’s weaknesses. For one, it guzzles fuel above 75 mph. If you drive too fast, the CVT sends the engine’s RPM a bit too high and your fuel economy might get as low as 29 mpg. At least that’s what it’s like in our car. Another downside is noise. There’s a ton of road noise at speed and you can’t escape it. You always hear the tires, always hear the wind, and always hear the bumps. Playing the stereo loud does drown it out, but you’re only replacing one noise with another noise. Add it up and a day of driving the iQ can drain your senses, even if you the drive isn’t particularly demanding. Thankfully, the engine does stay quiet most of the time. But the road noise is loud enough that we’re considering finding a tire known for quietness, which is something we’ve never had to do with any other vehicle, including Smarts.

Sheryl and I have differing opinions on the interior. My biggest problem with the interior is the lack of armrests. Your outer arm has an armrest, but Toyota’s engineers did nothing for your inner arms. So they’re sort of just flopping around uncomfortably. We’ve rectified this with a cheap armrest from Amazon, but it’s sort of a weird oversight.

Sheryl dislikes the seats. She says they are not comfortable on long drives and they’re only made worse by the lack of bolstering and the lack of heating. Smart somehow offered bolstered and heated seats, why couldn’t Toyota? Indeed, I do feel the iQ’s seats are more comparable to the seats found in a city bus, but I don’t find them as uncomfortable as Sheryl does.

The car started giving us our first problems, too. As we exited the Grand Canyon during our Route 66 trip, the car started exhibiting noises we hadn’t heard before. My well-tuned ear identified the noise as a CVT whine, and there was a point in our road trip when the whine was intrusively loud. We had the CVT fluid changed the moment we got home, which killed the whine. Then, the whine came back only 10,000 miles later, with the whine getting worse 20,000 miles after it was changed.

We got multiple opinions from Toyota dealers who used to sell iQs. Both told us that the CVT isn’t really repairable, and that it could blow tomorrow or last the remainder of the life of the car. Either way, the “fix” for the whine is replacing the whole transmission. That issue remains unresolved today. We just change the fluid every time the whine gets loud again.

The other annoyance was the cruise control system. Toyota never offered the iQ with a cruise control system in America, and retrofitting a Toyota OEM system into an iQ is beyond my skill level. So, Sheryl bought an aftermarket cruise control for $800, installation included. This was our favorite upgrade to the iQ, and it made driving the little car long distances so much better.

That was until the cruise control unit began failing less than a year after we installed it. The cruise control unit is tied into the car’s throttle-by-wire system, and when the cruise module fails, it sends bad signals to the by-wire system. In our case, this often led to the car behaving like it’s misfiring before going into limp mode. Eventually, the failed cruise control led to a complete failure of the accelerator pedal. Basically, Sheryl would hit the gas, and the car wouldn’t do anything. The engine wouldn’t even rev. Or, alternatively, she’d hit the gas just a little, and the car would rev to the moon.

We’d later find out that this is a known issue with aftermarket cruise control units installed in some Toyota models, including the iQ. It’s not the car’s fault. Unfortunately, from my personal experience, it seems to me like some of the companies that make some of these units do rather lackluster soldering jobs.

At any rate, Sheryl had both the accelerator pedal and the cruise control replaced. Then both failed for a second time, again, not even a year after installation. The car is on its third or fourth gas pedal now, which is a wild thing to say. Thankfully, the third cruise control unit has been holding together and has not failed, so this issue might finally be a thing of the past.

What Was Toyota Thinking?

When the car wasn’t annoying us by frying its gas pedals, it was frustrating us with how hard its design had made simple maintenance tasks.

See, in order to get the Scion iQ to fit four people, Toyota packaged the super tiny engine bay so that all the components are more or less on top of each other. If you want to change your spark plugs, the proper method involves removing your windshield wipers, removing the hood cowl and its tray, removing the airbox, the intake, and the throttle body, and bam, you’re finally at the plugs. All of this means a job that takes minutes in most may take hours in the iQ.

It seems that many mechanical repairs are like this when it comes to wrenching on an iQ. You have to jump through a bunch of extra hoops because the brilliant engineering that made the car so small also makes it a pain to work on. Yet, it takes me only 10 minutes to replace the spark plugs in a Smart.

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There was never a cover here!

All of this was enough to wear Sheryl and me pretty thin on this car, but there’s more. The Scion iQ’s design seems to invite corrosion. The wheel wells have steel alcoves in them that aren’t protected. All kinds of road salt, grime, and other nasty debris get caked up in there, forcing me to clean them out fairly regularly.

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Hidden under the weather seal.

Something I also noticed early on was that the vehicle’s door seals trap road salt and other fine debris. If Sheryl took a long enough drive on a salty road, I always found salt under the door seals. Sure enough, there’s corrosion there! I have seen images of Toyota iQs in other countries that had seriously rotted out door sills. I have to wonder if this is where that rot starts?

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This is the right door. So crunchy!

Rust has been a battle all over this car. There’s a rust spot at the bottom of the passenger door, the subframe is pretty crusty, and the engine bay has also seen better days. I’ve been able to kick the can down the road with an oil-type undercoating, but I feel like I’m fighting a losing battle with all of these places for rust to fester.

Everyone Hated The iQ

The car also seemed to develop an image problem. Once my family, my wife’s clients, judges, and my wife’s opposing counsel stopped seeing the novelty of a tiny lawyer car, they started hating the little thing with a passion. Clients stopped paying their bills, my wife lost lucrative contracts, and my own mom even claimed to have lost some respect for my wife. The wild part is that all of these people loved the iQ in 2023 and 2024. But by 2025, they just weren’t having it. Seemingly overnight, Sheryl went from being seen as an underdog or a wolf in sheep’s clothing to a big phony.

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This alone was devastating because it meant that the car was directly impacting her life, and in a negative way. At first, we stayed the course. We told the haters to live with it. But, eventually, it all became too much, and Sheryl began shopping for other cars. She even attempted to buy a Hyundai Genesis while high on anesthesia drugs.

The final nail in the coffin wasn’t the car’s poor image, the rust, the whining transmission, the poor high-speed fuel economy, or the stupid cruise control. It was a Volkswagen. Back in February, I found myself trying to offload my 2012 Volkswagen Jetta SportWagen TDI. Sheryl protested the sale of the vehicle because she loved it so much. This car was also one of the first we bought as a couple, some six years ago. She was way more attached to it than I was.

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So, I thought, what the heck, I’ll just give it to her. She has been driving it ever since then and hasn’t touched the Scion even once. The only time the Scion ever moves out of its parking space is when I drive it out of pity. What gives?

Sheryl realized that there’s basically no comparison between the Volkswagen and the Scion. The Volkswagen gets better fuel economy, is infinitely more comfortable, has a lot more room, is so much quieter, and is far less fatiguing. Now, none of this is particularly surprising. The Scion is a city car, while the Volkswagen is a German diesel wagon. To her, the Volkswagen is like playing in the big leagues while the iQ can’t even get into the minors. All of the people who hated the iQ are dumping loads of praise on the Volkswagen, too.

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There’s another important factor: The Volkswagen had about 354,000 miles when I gave it to Sheryl. I fully expected the car to break down within 500 miles of her taking ownership. Yet, she’s reached nearly 10,000 miles since taking the car and, aside from tiny repairs like new bulbs and a new blower motor resistor, the car has been great. She’s also getting 45 mpg, which is so much better than the iQ at the same speeds, and the Volkswagen has been cheaper to run despite the high cost of diesel fuel.

I told Sheryl to hold onto the iQ in case the Volkswagen blows up, but the wagon seems rather intent on proving me wrong. Everything continues to run like a fine sewing machine, from the air-conditioner to the fully intact emissions equipment. It has gotten to the point where the iQ is sitting for so long that its gas is going bad, and the parking brake seized.

No Regrets

Sheryl has no intentions of ever driving the iQ again. She says she doesn’t regret buying the car. It was the right car at the time that she bought it. The vehicle served its purpose. But she has moved on, and she doesn’t have the same car tastes that she did in 2023.

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So, she’s decided to part ways with the Scion. Thankfully, it won’t go too far away. When my parents heard that Sheryl was getting rid of the car, they made me an offer that I couldn’t refuse. Why, yes, this is the same car that my parents said they hate.

See, my dad drives a gas Ford F-350 that gets in the low teens for fuel economy, while my mom drives a GMC Yukon XL that scores in the high teens. These vehicles, which were purchased to tow heavy camper trailers, spend most of their time not towing anything. To them, having the iQ as a going-to-town rig will be perfect, so they don’t have to drive lumbering giants just to buy some groceries.

I warned my parents about everything I’ve written about here, but they’re determined to buy the iQ, anyway. Sheryl likes this idea because it keeps the iQ in the family, but it also means that we don’t have to worry about it anymore. I’m looking forward to never dealing with that darned intake manifold ever again.

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Truth be told, I still don’t think there’s anything wrong with the Scion iQ itself. I think we just got a temperamental example, and then gave it an unfortunate modification. Sheryl then put 33,000 miles on it in a single year. You could argue that Sheryl’s experience wasn’t surprising, given that she used a city car as a road trip car.

If anything, this is a story about knowing what car is the best fit for you. That city car might be cute, but are you going to enjoy driving it on a highway? That Miata is fun, but will you need more than two seats? That huge truck looks the business, but are you going to be okay with 13 mpg and something the size of a small nation? Those are questions every car buyer should ask themselves.

Hopefully, Sheryl’s future car endeavors won’t be so dramatic. I have now written 12 articles about my wife’s iQ since 2023. Some were happy, some were not. With any luck, you aren’t going to hear a whole lot about that Volkswagen. Oh, who am I kidding? Give it a couple more months, tops.

All photos and top graphic image: Mercedes Streeter

 

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Spikersaurusrex
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Spikersaurusrex
10 minutes ago

This is my experience with Toyota. They leave out the little things, like your cruise control, or the interval wipers on the Taco I used to have. Highway miles shouldn’t have been an issue for this car or its transmission, but of course there was no sound deadening; it’s a city car. I don’t get why people are so enamored of Toyotas. Anyhow, good luck with the VW, but at 345K, you should be looking for its replacement.

Kurt B
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Kurt B
36 minutes ago

Mercedes, August 2026:

“I have joined the VAG Dieselgate class action lawsuit, F*** Volkswagen”

Fix It Again Tony
Fix It Again Tony
37 minutes ago

You know you’ll be obligated to service this car if you sell it to your parents right?
Also, every problem they encounter in the future will be Sheryl’s fault.

Data
Data
46 minutes ago

IDIC plates, noice!

Should have gotten the Aston Martin Cygnet variant. Then you would have badge armor. To bad it was never federalized.

Albert Ferrer
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Albert Ferrer
52 minutes ago

“Truth be told, I still don’t think there’s anything wrong with the Scion iQ itself. I think we just got a temperamental example, and then gave it an unfortunate modification.”

Truest words on the article. There is nothing inherently wrong with the car. Also in Europe you could have those with a 5 speed, solving another issue.

I love the iQ, very clever packaging.

I also don’t understand the hatred on the car. Maybe people like to hate things they don’t understand.

However the Golf Variant diesel definitely is a very different animal and much more suited to the use!

N541x
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N541x
55 minutes ago

My take on this? Cars are wear items that get used up. It’s a cheap car and you got your use out of it.

Mind you, it was a cheap car when new. A cheap car that’s old, even a Toyota, is still a cheap old car.

The car you should be after next is the Lexus CT 200h, which was a Prius engine, Corolla-platformer wrapped in a Lexus suit with comfy seats.

Hoser68
Hoser68
27 minutes ago
Reply to  N541x

Absolutely. The difference in quality of a Toyota build to be cheap on the showroom floor and one that is built more for the reputaiton of quality is stark. I’ve never had a bad Toyota, but I’ve seen Corollas have all sorts of crap fall of and break that lasts forever on a Camry. And when you move to Lexus? Yet another step up. Toyota doesn’t want there to be any question about a Lexus being put together right.

Edrummer106
Edrummer106
23 minutes ago
Reply to  Hoser68

Yeah, my last car was a Corolla that after 160,000 miles had zero mechanical issues but all kinds of plastic bits were falling off and electrical issues were rearing their ugly head.

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
1 hour ago

Honestly, you guys sound like good candidates for the Mercedes B-Class. It’s one of the better cars they made, though they only sold it in Canada, not down here. (the only B-Class we got was the electric one with a shitty motor from Tesla).

The first gen W245 has a CVT (if you’re really lucky, you can find one with a manual transmission), while the second gen uses a DCT.

Also, for the CVT fluid changes, if you had a whine, maybe you could’ve tried Lubegard CVT additive or something. Even if it didn’t work, it’d still be worth trying.

Albert Ferrer
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Albert Ferrer
51 minutes ago
Reply to  Dogisbadob

The original B200 Turbo was a fast thing!

Josh Taylor
Josh Taylor
1 hour ago

The problem with Toyota to me has always been the bottom of the barrel interiors. Sure you get reliability but you end up with a budget interior.

My Other Car is a Tetanus Shot
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My Other Car is a Tetanus Shot
1 hour ago

Oh, Mercedes.

Don’t sell cars with known problems to family/friends. I know you told them about the problems, but please reconsider this. This will haunt you, even if you have a sworn affidavit claiming you told them about everything. Unloading it to someone you’ll never see again is a better idea.

Something like the $7,800 low mileage Toyota Avalon featured in the Shitbox Showdown not too long ago would be just a perfect car for a cheap highway car for someone on a budget.

Why? Classic Toyota Buick-y goodness + low miles + good drivetrain (change the timing belt) + Texas car (no rust) + relatively cheap = perfect thing to subject to the horrors of grueling salt-belt Interstate hauls. Cheap enough to ruin with a clean conscience, nice and reliable enough to hopefully last a bit under those conditions.

Anyway, still kind of glad to hear the VW has found its seventh wind as a commuter. For awhile, at least.

JDE
JDE
1 hour ago

I am still baffled how the car you drive has anything to do with a judges decision or a clients willingness to pay a bill. That is asinine to me.

I saw a TDI Golf today, had to be nearly the last of the TDI’s in America. I wonder if the Golf with a hatch would be viewed differently than the Same year Passat or Jetta TDI. or more tot he point for me at least if you can still get TDI parts in the US. I really considered a manual TDI to purchase for next to nothing during the Dieselgate as I loved the idea of diesel longevity and 50 mpg, though I now wonder if the EGR’s clogged on them like other bigger diesel stuff? and did they ever have Def?

JDE
JDE
1 hour ago
Reply to  JDE

Or would things like formerly hot, but now not rides like the Bug (in TDI with manual and drop top) be shunned as well? https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/1b2c50a9-2a5a-4a9d-ac61-53dcc55710b2/

Albert Ferrer
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Albert Ferrer
49 minutes ago
Reply to  JDE

As discussed on the other article, diesel convertibles are simply a no go.

Needleroozer
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Needleroozer
1 hour ago
Reply to  JDE

Earlier common-rail TDIs (like the Sportwagen Sheryl is driving now) did not have DEF, but the DPF is known for clogging up eventually, which winds up messing up the EGR valve as well. It is popular to delete the emissions equipment purely from a reliability perspective, especially since the Dieselgate fix for these non-DEF engines runs the emissions gear harder (and most of these cars are now outside of their extended emissions warranty post-fix).
Other models, like the 2012 Passat and the 2015-and-later TDIs, do have DEF and it does have to get topped off more frequently post-fix as well.

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
1 hour ago

Imma be a broken record for a hot minute, but I never understood the point of Smart/IQs even existing. If your ONLY metric for a car is city parking in the smallest possible spots, sure, ok, I GUESS BRO, but for literally any other thing it’s not a very good vehicle.

Best tiny vehicle is 1st gen Honda Insight 5spd. I will die on that hill. Aluminum chassis, VTEC (yo), and a hybrid system that basically lasts forever if you do a deep discharge once a year and grid charge every few months. Parts are easy to find, community is good, and oh yeah you get like 55-65mpg and can cruise at 70-80mph, dual airbags, and oh right 5spd manual so it’s enjoyable to drive!

Good riddance IQ.

Last edited 1 hour ago by ADDvanced
Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
1 hour ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

I owned a manual Yaris for 12 years and had none of the mechanical problems. Also, factory cruise control.

Tj1977
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Tj1977
1 hour ago

My partner bought a Yaris (two door hatch, base model) in 2009 brand new. Here we are closing in on 285,000…and it’s needed two water pumps and a new radiator. I’m just now replacing front struts (that I don’t think have ever been replaced) and only because I noticed they’re in poor shape, the ride hasn’t suffered at all.

This is even after hitting a deer that obliterated the right front cosmetically…and the cause of the need for a new radiator. I’ve been in charge of repairing mechanical things on in for the last ten years and it’s hands down one of the most reliable cars I’ve ever known. Other than the rust on the passenger side rear quarter panel, she plans on driving in into the ground. Even with the automatic she gets 30mpg.

I wish it had cruise, and I’ve researching how to add factor cruise from a wrecked Yaris. It doesn’t seem to be that hard, just fiddly more than anything.

But seriously, I don’t know why people would be an iQ over a Yaris.

Albert Ferrer
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Albert Ferrer
46 minutes ago

But not quite as clever.

My Other Car is a Tetanus Shot
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My Other Car is a Tetanus Shot
44 minutes ago
Reply to  Nlpnt

The Yaris was built for world markets that needed Toyota Hilux-like durability, but in a densely populated city. Which made for an uninspiring and low-rent vehicle, but it lasted a long time under harsh use.

The iQ was seemingly designed as a city car first and foremost to be used under gentler conditions in the developed world.

Albert Ferrer
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Albert Ferrer
27 minutes ago

I believe the Yaris was specifically designed with Europe in mind. Then sold in other markets.

Vanagan
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Vanagan
1 hour ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

Insights were underrated for sure. Prius took the lead easily in the 2000’s, but those first gens are nice.

But I would prefer a nice Fit as my choice.

Albert Ferrer
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Albert Ferrer
46 minutes ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

Have you seen old European streets? Or never mind Japan. Some places need clever packaging inside a small container.

Although it is true that standard B-segment car will do almost as well while being “more car”.

Manwich Sandwich
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Manwich Sandwich
41 minutes ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

Best tiny vehicle is 1st gen Honda Insight 5spd. I will die on that hill.”

I shall join you on that hill and die with you!

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