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Lotus CEO Said Desire For Gas Engines ‘Initially Made No Sense’ Until He Started Driving On The Track

Lotus Ceo Feng Qingfeng Copy

I am bullish on Lotus, which is historically a dangerous thing to put in writing. The British automaker has bounced around from owner to owner, and has had historically strange leadership. The current version of the company has a stable parent company and seems to be listening to its customers, which is the thing that small car companies are often weirdly bad at doing.

The Morning Dump is going to end the week with a series of stories that wrap up a lot of what’s been going on in the last seven days or so. Lotus is slowing its EV development to focus on making gas-powered cars. Lexus is pausing development on a new electric platform, because it probably doesn’t need a lot more than what it has now. Ferrari, on the other hand, is defending the honor of its electric car.

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Ending TMD on a high note is always the goal on Friday, and I’m going to hit G10 with the announcement from Mitsubishi that a legend is returning.

Lotus Initially Considered Making Electric Powertrains Perform Worse

Feng Lotus
Photo: Lotus

There’s a version of this article where everyone gets upset at the Lotus CEO for not understanding why some customers might not be interested in electric cars. I don’t want to do that, because Lotus CEO Feng Qingfeng has been there for eight years, and in that time the company has produced a car I very much like (the Emira), one that’s at least technically impressive (the Evija), and one that’s maybe not for me but seems good anyway (the Eletre).

Also, Qingfeng seems to be listening to customers and gave very honest answers to an Automotive News Europe reporter. It’s a little refreshing, sadly, to see a CEO acknowledge that his initial view of the world has broadened and changed.

Why has it hard to convert luxury buyers to electric?

Certain customers simply enjoy the thrill of driving a car with a powerful engine, even with some lag in the power delivery. They somehow just don’t like the smoothness of EVs. We have even had some crazy ideas to make the electric motors run more like a combustion engine.

It must be frustrating for an engineer like yourself. Since the beginning, the automotive industry has been trying to make engines run smoother.

Initially, this made no sense to me as well. However, gradually, I began to get it. A smooth powertrain is good for those people who use their car daily for commuting. However, those who purchase performance cars make that decision in the pursuit of driving thrills, of entertainment. They just want to have fun. Before I raced on a track, I found it difficult to understand. However, the moment I put my hands on a racecar, I felt the pleasure and the thrill that driving a big engine that could grant you.

I get that, too. I know people who bought EVs after owning cars with crappy CVTs and they marvel at why anyone would still want a gas-powered car. For commuting, an EV is hard to beat. On the race track, an EV might still be hard to beat from a pure performance standpoint, but it’s easy to overcome in terms of pure experience.

He’s an engineer, and engineers want to usually make the best and most efficient version of something [Ed Note: In my experience, this is a danger with some engineers in leadership roles. Customers are not rational about cars, which is why making the most efficient, highest-performing vehicle at the expense of something as fluffy as, say, styling, doesn’t make sense. -DT]. The goal of a Lotus has always been, to some extent, achieving the most from a platform. Electrification allows you to reach incredibly efficiency, it’s just at a cost that’s too high. It’s therefore nice to see the company trying more analog solutions and committing to bringing back the V8.

There’s a lot in the interview I found interesting, and this definitely caught my eye:

Is the new supercar going to be called Esprit?

Let’s just say there’s a logical legacy connection. When the Esprit went out of production [in 2004] it had a V-8 engine, and it’s something people have asked us to bring back ever since. It’s something that is still in the hearts of minds of many of our customers.

Hell yeah. The other bit that stood out was that Lotus said the 10% tariff on British cars imported to the United States was something the company could live with, but that the slow decimation of the car industry and the related supply chain means that it’s a lot harder to produce cars there than in China.

Ferrari Really Wants You To Know The Luce Is A Hit

As you can see in the podcast above, I have a lot of feelings about the Ferrari Luce. So does the CEO of Ferrari, who feels strongly that he needs to defend the product.

Per Reuters:

“There is strong interest, including from new clients,” Vigna said ​during an automotive event in Modena, northern Italy.

The automaker showed the new model ​to 1,600 customers on Monday and Tuesday at the launch in Rome and order books opened on Wednesday.

“We’ve already received bank transfers, clients who were there want it,” the ​CEO said, adding Ferrari would provide precise figures about orders in July, ​when releasing its second quarter results.

I’m not mad. Please don’t put in the newspaper that I’m mad.

Lexus Kills Its Next Gen EV

Lexus LC-FZ Concept

Remember the Lexus LF-ZC concept? I didn’t, either, and I wrote about the damn thing. According to Bloomberg, it doesn’t matter because it ain’t happening:

Toyota Motor Corp. halted development of a next-generation electric vehicle for its Lexus brand, citing weak demand and the elimination of US subsidies amid a broader review of new projects.

The LF-ZC, which had been expected to go on sale in mid-2027, was set to include new technologies such as gigacasting and more cost-effective batteries with faster charging speeds. Those features will be carried over to other vehicles, a spokesperson for the Japanese carmaker said.

Ok, cool.

Mitsubishi Is Bringing Back The Montero, Bringing Back A Midsize Pickup To The US

2004 Mitsubishi Montero Sport
Photo: Mitsubishi

Let me clarify here, a little, because I’m extrapolating a lot from a couple of sources. First, the thing that’s reported, via Hans Greimel, which is that Nissan will build a version of a truck for Mitsubishi in the United States:

The new entry will be built by Nissan at a U.S. factory, according to a person familiar with the plan. Mitsubishi did not detail a launch timeline.

But the Nissan Frontier midsize pickup is expected to get a redesign around 2028 as part of Nissan’s rollout of a new frame-based vehicle architecture that will underpin the Xterra SUV and other products built at its Canton, Miss., plant.

That was pretty much expected. Less expected was the return of the Montero. Why do I think that’s happening? Mitsubishi announced that it was bringing back the Pajero which, again, not a surprise:

Mitsubishi Motors Corporation (hereafter, Mitsubishi Motors) announced that its all-new cross-country SUV will be named Pajero and will be unveiled at a world premiere scheduled for autumn 2026. The model was discontinued in overseas markets in 2021, making this its first return to the global market in five years.

First launched in 1982, the Pajero1 was developed as a recreational vehicle (RV, now widely known as an SUV) with a new concept that combined the off-road performance of a full-fledged four-wheel-drive (4WD) vehicle with the comfort of a passenger car. Across four generations, the model has become one of Mitsubishi Motors’ most iconic cross-country SUVs, with cumulative global sales of more than 3.25 million units in over 170 countries and regions worldwide.

Here’s where it gets interesting, and it’s just a footnote:

  1. Sold as the Montero in some markets

Yes! Like in the United States. It was sold here as the Montero. Could the Montero be coming back? One can only dream.

What I’m Listening To While Writing TMD

I’d never seen the video for Barry White’s “Let The Music Play” and it’s mostly just him walking around his nice house with his dog and playing piano. It looks like a great way to spend the weekend. I hope you’re weekend is as serene and enjoyable as this video.

The Big Question

Do you know the CEO of the company who built your car/all your cars? Who are they?

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1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
13 days ago

Lotus is great don’t worry about supporting it. Questioning people who don’t know what they are supporting based on no knowledge of the CEO is brave and I support it whether you agree with my decisions. And I can’t wait until next Tuesday, 3 days from now to see my comments on the site.

Martin Ibert
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Martin Ibert
13 days ago

The simple reason why the unfortunately-named “Pajero” has been sold as the “Montero” in much of the world is that “pajero” means “wanker” in Spanish. A “paja” is a straw, and “hacerse una paja” (to make oneself a straw) means exactly what you think it does, and a guy doing it is a “pajero”.

Jatco Xtronic CVT
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Jatco Xtronic CVT
13 days ago

Ah, Matt, I don’t like your CVT slander here. Be better.

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
13 days ago

You are the only person on the sight that has anything good to say about CVT. Your handle betrays your bias. But if you get KIA to compensate my neighbor whose CVT Transmission that went out 100 miles after the warranty and then the dealership refused to fix it even if he paid for it I’ll broker a peace agreement instead of constantly posting how they screwed a guy over with 7 kids and only one car. That compensation should be around $8,000.

Jatco Xtronic CVT
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Jatco Xtronic CVT
11 days ago

That’s not a Jatco Xtronic, kind of your neighbor’s fault for buying an inferior product to the gold standard

M SV
M SV
14 days ago

That Lexus deserved to not live it’s ugly. They will figure out how to do it when the time is right.

I feel like most of the western automotive engineers I know drive stick and want control. But appreciate electric cars and realize they are the way forward so driving manual cars while it’s still sort of normal. But I could see Chinese automotive engineers not in that same head space and wonder why anyone would drive a ice car let alone a manual until going on track.

Probably know of some but do not know them. I was in the same room as Bill Ford once and I have a Expedition from his era. I have a Ghosn era Leaf , a Marchionne era Ram, and a Lutz era Suburban. No idea about Toyota or other brands ceos.

Hoser68
Hoser68
14 days ago

Barry White. Those are some EPIC collars.

But there’s something really cool about Barry’s voice.

Barry was unique. He had a baritone range and a Bass tone. This combination is nick-named a Barrytone as a result.

Johnny Cash sang lower notes than Barry every was recorded to do regularly. Barry sang higher notes regularly than Johnny Cash. Yet, there Johnny had a baritone tone that made him sound like he was singing higher than Barry.

Barry’s unique tone made him a classic. He sounds SO emotional because as he hits notes that are fairly high even for a true tenor, his voice still has that meaty bass tone in there. It’s 100% unique and 100% Barry White.

Barry’s remarkable. Go to youtube and search for Tim Storms. He’s a low bass. In interviews, he sounds like he should have a singing voice that is higher than Barry White’s. He’s got a deep speaking voice, but not Barry White Deep. However, in singing, you need subwoofers to hear him sing. Actually you don’t hear his voice, you feel it. Du

SonOfLP500
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SonOfLP500
13 days ago
Reply to  Hoser68

I know nothing technical about music, but that was fascinating. What I do know about Barry White’s voice is that it was somehow ideal for studio recording. Even on not-great speakers, it sounds like he is there in the room with you.

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
13 days ago
Reply to  SonOfLP500

You can get the same response if you sing in the shower

Dave Larkman
Dave Larkman
14 days ago

My Europa was made under Mike Kimberly, very old school Lotus guy. His son is a police officer and turned up the last time I got hit by a car while cycling, we had a nice chat about Lotus while waiting for the ambulance. Small world.

I met Dany Bahar a few times. Terrific hair, amazing public speaker, absolutely hypnotic. Utterly terrifying.

He tried to have my personal Elise sold, assuming he owned it. So did Jean Marc Gales. At least they had some idea of who I was, if no idea why anyone working at Lotus would be daily driving an S1 Elise.
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1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
13 days ago
Reply to  Dave Larkman

The last time you got hit by a car while riding a bike? Maybe look for new travel areas. You may have the right of way but you are the one going to the hospital. Make good choices.

Dave Larkman
Dave Larkman
11 days ago

I am very aware of who goes to hospital. Least romantic Valentine’s Day ever: a date in A&E where we shared a vending machine chocolate muffin.

My new commute is now 10 miles of dedicated cycle path, a mile through some woods, and only a mile of sharing the road with cars (mostly 20mph limits).

CUlater
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CUlater
12 days ago
Reply to  Dave Larkman

Oh my. This requires significant follow up details and expansion. It sounds like you have an interesting life, sir.

Dave Larkman
Dave Larkman
11 days ago
Reply to  CUlater

I’m trying to write up the good bits, and they’re getting published here.

The rumour was that both Bahar and JMG had bonus clauses in their contracts about car sales. Certainly they sent people out all over site to find old engineering cars to sell. The CEO’s office looked out over the main car park, so they could both see my car.

JokesOnYou
JokesOnYou
14 days ago

somethings are just better analog. like driving for pleasure, and sex. you’re just not going to get the same enjoyment if you go all digital.

Ben
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Ben
14 days ago

clients who were there want it

I’m taking this to mean 2 out of 1600, since he used clients, plural. Or maybe they blackmailed some others into it since we know Ferrari will refuse to sell you a car unless you bought the previous one, no matter how bad it was.

TBQ: My truck was made under Mary Barra. The rest of my stuff is old enough that I have no idea who would have been CEO at the time.

Dottie
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Dottie
14 days ago

The Luce is An Car: Ferrari flavor and it’ll probably sell okay for that reason. But since we’re in the clown timeline it would be really funny if Nissan unveiled a performance version of their Ariya with similar wheels and styling.

JokesOnYou
JokesOnYou
14 days ago
Reply to  Dottie

i would LOVE that to happen

CuppaJoe
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CuppaJoe
14 days ago

Not trying to be a jerk here, but to me TMD logo looks like it says Morning DUMB. Might need a little more separation between the P and the circle.

Disphenoidal
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Disphenoidal
14 days ago
Reply to  CuppaJoe

I can’t unsee that now.

Bkp
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Bkp
14 days ago
Reply to  CuppaJoe

I had a similar reaction, agree with you on the solution. It’s almost there as a good logo!

Canopysaurus
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Canopysaurus
14 days ago

Seeing as I’ve never owned a car built after 1988, it’s likely all the CEOs around back then are all playing in a different state of being now. And since I’m generally disappointed by every current manufacturer’s offerings, I don’t want to know the current “leadership.” If the Slate and Telo succeed, that might change.

Ranwhenparked
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Ranwhenparked
14 days ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

Among the domestics, Joe Cappy, CEO of American Motors from 1986-1987, is still kicking. He continued under Chrysler as head of Jeep-Eagle through 1989

Canopysaurus
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Canopysaurus
14 days ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

All of my Jeeps were ‘84 and older.

Ranwhenparked
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Ranwhenparked
14 days ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

He would have just been VP of Marketing at that point

Canopysaurus
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Canopysaurus
14 days ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

Your original point is valid; he was a CEO pre-1988 and is still alive, so that’s one I missed.

Strangek
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Strangek
14 days ago

TBQ: No. I’ve never met the CEOs of Subaru or GM. I do not know them.

Waremon0
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Waremon0
14 days ago

Pajero Evos are below 30k. I just wish CA wasn’t so difficult to register a properly imported car.

I really liked the points made on the Luce podcast. I hope to see more episodes! and audio quality was great.

UmbraTitan
UmbraTitan
14 days ago

I’ll probably never own a Lotus, but they sure are fun to look at. There is something visceral and engaging about an engine bouncing off redline and the momentary pause-then-snap of acceleration between gears. I could see why people care more about that than cutting a second off of their fun weekend laptimes.

I might own a used Lexus EV someday, yet I really can’t find it in me to care about them cancelling yet another suppository-shaped EV giga-casted in ways that make it obscenely expensive to repair.

05LGT
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05LGT
13 days ago
Reply to  UmbraTitan

I think this is the website where I read that gigacasting can (if designed with repairability in mind) be cheaper to repair.

CivoLee
CivoLee
14 days ago

“Mitsubishi is bringing back a legend”

Okay, fess up everyone: who else thought they were restoring the Eclipse to a proper sport coupe like it belongs?

Yzguy
Yzguy
14 days ago
Reply to  CivoLee

I would have preferred “Acura is bringing back a Legend”…but was also hoping to see a proper Eclipse. Or Starion.

Matteo Bassini
Matteo Bassini
12 days ago
Reply to  Yzguy

Acura or Honda is never doing another E-segment sedan because the Accord is already big enough.

Manwich Sandwich
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Manwich Sandwich
14 days ago
Reply to  CivoLee

3000GT

05LGT
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05LGT
13 days ago
Reply to  CivoLee

It was my first hope at the headline. I confess.

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
14 days ago

My tip to Lotus. Don’t style your flagship in house. Go to an outside firm the way the Esprit was originally done. Lotus makes great cars, but the styling is too fussy and derivative.

But…Don’t get Ives to do it either!

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TK-421
TK-421
14 days ago

I’m sure Ferrari will sell dozens of them.

05LGT
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05LGT
13 days ago
Reply to  TK-421

It will almost certainly spend considerable time as Ferrari’s best selling BEV.

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
14 days ago

I can’t say I’ve made the acquaintance of many CEOs, much less the one who ran Mercedes-Benz in 2009.

But I understand he has quite the moustache.

Gen3 Volt
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Gen3 Volt
14 days ago

That video makes me happy. Thank you.

Harvey Firebirdman
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Harvey Firebirdman
14 days ago

As an owner of too many cars from different brands and a 43 year gap between the oldest and newest I don’t know and really don’t care to look it up. Yay this x rich person was running the company when one of my cars was built Whoopty do Basil

Kevin B
Kevin B
14 days ago

The Luce may be Ferrari’s Cayenne. The purists hated it, but there’s a shitload of them out there on the road. We will know when they show up on buy here, pay here lots.

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Dan1101
Dan1101
14 days ago
Reply to  Kevin B

Maybe if it wasn’t an EV. The number of people that want an EV and want to pay $600,000+ for a vehicle has got to be pretty low.

05LGT
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05LGT
13 days ago
Reply to  Dan1101

They also have to not want to get more performance from Porsche or Lucid at less than half the cost.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
14 days ago
Reply to  Kevin B

The Cayenne was seen as an affordable every-day Porsche that the purist might have initially hated, but ultimately recognized as a way to keep the 911 around longer.

TDI in PNW
TDI in PNW
12 days ago
Reply to  Kevin B

But it’s $600,000. The purists will hate it. I laugh at it. Some mock it. ….but we will never see one of these for plebian money. I say these will always be 6 figures+. Plenty of Ferrari fools to make sure the 6 of them they sell will retain some value.

What would even be a good, new price for the Luce? 80-90K? Even at that price, I think this thing is uglier than the competition.

Elanosaurous
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Elanosaurous
12 days ago
Reply to  Kevin B

Maybe, but two issue there:

  1. Porsche sells (mostly) to the public. Ferrari doesn’t — you have to have already bought at least one Ferrari to get the right to buy a new one. So unless they change that model, I’m not sure how they’re going to get net new customers
  2. The Cayenne was about 25% cheaper than the 911 when it launched, so it was both more practical and more attainable. The Luce is far less attainable.
Matteo Bassini
Matteo Bassini
12 days ago
Reply to  Kevin B

From a branding perspective, Porsche has less mystique behind it because of the Cayenne, Macan, and other commuter vehicles in their lineup.

This is not about price either. For the longest time, “Lotus” conjured up images of raw sports cars with optional AC that many owners skipped out on. Now, it’s a luxury EV brand for Geely.

Ferrari will follow the same footsteps. Oh great, they’re making more money. Let’s enshittificate everything we love for the sake of money.

Ceedger
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Ceedger
14 days ago

The rest of my wife’s family has Nissans (2 Murano’s and a Pathfinder) and it’s almost incomprehensible to me that in a few short years we might join them with a new Xterra and a MT Q50/Skyline thing.

Time will tell.

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14 days ago

Yeah sure Ferrari has already seen bank transfers and the Luce is a huge hit claims Ferrari. Also there were 2 million preorders for the Cybertruck. Show us sales or get out! But in all seriousness I sure the Luce will sell fine because Ferrari and the rest of us will wonder why someone would spend 600k on it.

Lincoln Clown CaR
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Lincoln Clown CaR
14 days ago

If I understand how this works, people are buying the Luce because they want Ferrari to sell them something better and this is how you butter them up.

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14 days ago

That seems to be the consensus, and a brand with a reputation like Ferrari can likely put out cars that are a miss and they will do ok because they still carry the Ferrari name, but if it becomes a pattern the Ferrari name gets damaged and this is no longer a viable strategy.

Cloud Shouter
Cloud Shouter
14 days ago

Lotus CEO Feng Qingfeng eloquently explained why Ram and Dodge needed to bring the Hemi back.

Dave Larkman
Dave Larkman
14 days ago
Reply to  Cloud Shouter

I’d like him to eloquently explain why if ICE is the future he made the Powertrain Design department redundant last year.

Only kidding, they had no idea who’s lives they were ruining, HR didn’t even have a copy of my job description.

My last week there I was asked to show someone who kept their job how to run CATIA. He actually asked which button to press to make it do a drawing.

Christ I hope I’m not going to stay this bitter for long, it’s exhausting.

Cloud Shouter
Cloud Shouter
14 days ago
Reply to  Dave Larkman

I don’t blame you for being bitter. I’d be too.

I think I’d stand outside his window and hold a sign that says, “Miss me yet?”

Dave Larkman
Dave Larkman
14 days ago
Reply to  Cloud Shouter

Every year on my anniversary of starting at Lotus I’d buy cakes, loads of cakes.

On my 25th anniversary I wasn’t allowed on site because of the redundancy, so I bought a single Viennese finger, went to as close to HR as I could get while staying on public access ground and took a selfie holding the finger, well, you know how I was holding it.

It got a few laughs in the redundancy chat.

Cloud Shouter
Cloud Shouter
14 days ago
Reply to  Dave Larkman

Nice! 🙂

Manwich Sandwich
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Manwich Sandwich
14 days ago

Do you know the CEO of the company who built your car/all your cars? Who are they?”

Well my car is a 2017 Ford C-max Energi… so that was sold when Mark Fields was CEO at Ford.

However, the C-Max hybrid/Energi project was one that was approved by and executed under Alan Mulally

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